Where do upper middle class families go on vacation?

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Anonymous wrote: What are some go-to places for UMC?

I grew up UMC in/around NYC. We went to Mohonk Mountain House and the Bar Harbor Inn a number of times. Also went to the Woodstock Inn (Vermont) several times. We went to the UK, Greece, and Italy, and stayed at 4/5 star hotels. We did Disney a few times and stayed at deluxe resorts each time. We did a few ski trips to Stowe, and one to Mont Tremblant. We went to Toronto and stayed at the Four Seasons there. Actually, I remember staying at the Four Seasons for several vacations. We went to Hawaii twice; once to Maui and once to Kauai. I think we stayed at the Grand Hyatt each time. I don’t remember ever doing a long-haul flight in economy.

That is not UMC. That is UC.

We are UMC in maryland (physicians) and we do a lot of things this list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What are some go-to places for UMC?

I grew up UMC in/around NYC. We went to Mohonk Mountain House and the Bar Harbor Inn a number of times. Also went to the Woodstock Inn (Vermont) several times. We went to the UK, Greece, and Italy, and stayed at 4/5 star hotels. We did Disney a few times and stayed at deluxe resorts each time. We did a few ski trips to Stowe, and one to Mont Tremblant. We went to Toronto and stayed at the Four Seasons there. Actually, I remember staying at the Four Seasons for several vacations. We went to Hawaii twice; once to Maui and once to Kauai. I think we stayed at the Grand Hyatt each time. I don’t remember ever doing a long-haul flight in economy.

That is not UMC. That is UC.

We are UMC in maryland (physicians) and we do a lot of things this list.

That sounds totally UMC to me. Dh is also a physician and that is our exact type of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What are some go-to places for UMC?

I grew up UMC in/around NYC. We went to Mohonk Mountain House and the Bar Harbor Inn a number of times. Also went to the Woodstock Inn (Vermont) several times. We went to the UK, Greece, and Italy, and stayed at 4/5 star hotels. We did Disney a few times and stayed at deluxe resorts each time. We did a few ski trips to Stowe, and one to Mont Tremblant. We went to Toronto and stayed at the Four Seasons there. Actually, I remember staying at the Four Seasons for several vacations. We went to Hawaii twice; once to Maui and once to Kauai. I think we stayed at the Grand Hyatt each time. I don’t remember ever doing a long-haul flight in economy.

That is not UMC. That is UC.

DP here. MC people stay at the 4 Seasons? Uh no. Not even DCUM middle class which I guess we are. HHI 350k. We have never stayed at the 4 Seasons, Ritz, etc type places.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A doctor and teacher is not upper class. It's just normal life. The issue is that the ow class non achievers looking at average people and thinking it's special.

No one said upper class. Upper middle is different and a physician’s family is upper middle unless they work for a charity like Doctors Without Borders or something like that. Every single physician I know (many) has a SAH wife and kids in private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A doctor and teacher is not upper class. It's just normal life. The issue is that the ow class non achievers looking at average people and thinking it's special.

No, it's UMC. My grandparents were truly middle class - which they achieved by way of the GI Bill that let my grandfather go to college - and there is a difference in how they thought of money and time. My parents (doctor and teacher) were much more willing to pay for things like house cleaning, lawn service - basically, time is money. That's how DH and I (two government lawyers) look at things too. My grandparents never in their lives paid for anything they might possibly have been able to do themselves. Plumber, carpenter, lawn service, cleaning. Maybe they paid for a roofer. Everything else they did themselves or traded services with a friend. They worked with their hands even after my grandfather went to college. They took pride in self-sufficiency and not spending money, but also wanted to keep up appearances. When I was growing up, my dad used to try to fix things because he felt like he should, but he was not at all averse to calling in the plumber or handyman when needed. His time was more valuable to him than the money. That's the real difference, I think. Well that, and the ability to shop at Whole Foods, which my grandparents wouldn't have been caught dead in. Costco was their Mecca.

[Anonymous]

My favorite places are not expensive! A cool up-island summer rental on the Vineyard with private beach access is cheaper than a Rehoboth rental. And a Provence villa is even less. Heck, I'd rather camp on Assateague than stay in Ocean City. My best friend gets insulted if I stay in a hotel in NYC instead of her Park Slope brownstone. In winter, Vieques and Culebra have better beaches and are much cheaper than Key West. I blanch at the cost of all-inclusive Cancun resorts, when there are tons of super cheap out of the way beach towns on both coasts of Mexico. SE Asia is dirt cheap as is China if you stay where domestic tourists stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A doctor and teacher is not upper class. It's just normal life. The issue is that the ow class non achievers looking at average people and thinking it's special.

The average salary for a doctor in the US is about $240K. Average salary for a teacher is about $67K. A HHI of $307K putd you just outside the top 5% of wage earners in the US.

That’s not “normal life” by any stretch of the imagination. It’s more than 4 times the median HHI in the US.

[Anonymous]

We do a Charleston beach every year right before school starts. NYC for a long weekend in December and skiing for the new year if our schedules can accommodate it. Spring Break is usually the Caribbean or another beach, and in the summer we'll do Maine or somewhere like that. Next year we have Europe planned, which we haven't been able to do for awhile (covid & work, etc)

[Anonymous]

I’m just jealous of people who go on real vacations and don’t spend all their vacation visiting family

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What are some go-to places for UMC?

I grew up UMC in/around NYC. We went to Mohonk Mountain House and the Bar Harbor Inn a number of times. Also went to the Woodstock Inn (Vermont) several times. We went to the UK, Greece, and Italy, and stayed at 4/5 star hotels. We did Disney a few times and stayed at deluxe resorts each time. We did a few ski trips to Stowe, and one to Mont Tremblant. We went to Toronto and stayed at the Four Seasons there. Actually, I remember staying at the Four Seasons for several vacations. We went to Hawaii twice; once to Maui and once to Kauai. I think we stayed at the Grand Hyatt each time. I don’t remember ever doing a long-haul flight in economy.

Mohonk! I love this place and i rarely see it mentioned on here. We went once spur of the moment for a weeklong vacation in the summer when our kids were little and now we go back every so often for a long weekend in the fall for hiking, after the leaves turn. It’s a special place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m just jealous of people who go on real vacations and don’t spend all their vacation visiting family

Get a backbone and this can be you too. Go see family on four day weekends and occasional summer trips and then vacation at other times.

[Anonymous]

Just got back from Aruba. Good time, but I would like some ideas

[Anonymous]

Don’t have time or desire to read the whole thread, but on the surface, thread sounds pretty lame.

If you are UMC, it means you have a little bit of money and can take a nice vacation. What do you like? What interests you? Go there.

If you want a vacation that validates your UMC status, DCUM has plenty of posters that I’m sure can assist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A doctor and teacher is not upper class. It's just normal life. The issue is that the ow class non achievers looking at average people and thinking it's special.

The average salary for a doctor in the US is about $240K. Average salary for a teacher is about $67K. A HHI of $307K putd you just outside the top 5% of wage earners in the US.

That’s not “normal life” by any stretch of the imagination. It’s more than 4 times the median HHI in the US.

DCUM gonna DCUM

[Anonymous]

Umc are not doing most of these trips. That’s wealthy upper class. We don’t. We are worried about paying for college.