Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?

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No matter where you are in high school first step to get into a college is the GPA and rigor, after that lottery for no hooks children.

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Anonymous wrote:We are having a hard time putting our list together. So wanted to find out where TJ kids with 4.3 - 4.4 GPA are likely to be accepted. Our DC is probably end up in that range with after her senior year with very high SAT score.

From TJ, you are not getting into the Ivy+ schools with that GPA unless you are aiming for something non-tech AND you have outstanding ECs that are one of a kind. Might have a shot if you are female or URM.

Share what your kid wants to study as well as profile (URM, male/female, GPA, number of APs, classes planned for senior year, intended course of study, ECs and leadership roles, etc.). Without that input, it's hard to provide any advice.

I assume this is specific to TJ—gpa.

My kid has had all As in the most rigorous course load available (honors/APs) and 4.4 gpa is the highest you can obtain (private). The school is known for rigor.

I assume schools with countless APs are different.

Highest TJ-gpa is generally between 4.6 - 4.7 (likely below 4.7). Even though most Ivy's and T10s say Gpa is just a data point, it is not true for TJ kids. The Naviance scattergram is clear on Ivy's and T10s only admitting TJ kids in the 4.5-4.6+ range. 4.3 -4.4 are right below where the Ivy's admit and they are either denied or waitlisted to be ultimately denied. The difference between a 4.4 and a 4.5 is couple of B+s and A-s in some of the hardest classes at TJ and for that matter for any high schooler at any school. The holistic admission is a total myth at least when it comes to TJ kids because data never lies. The admission of TJ kids are purely GPA driven.

I am not sure if it purely GPA driven. If that was the case, 4.52 kid should've gotten into Ivies/T10s.

4.5+ does not guarantee a spot at Ivies/T10's but not having 4.5+ guarantees denial from those schools. Another way to look at it, Ivies/T10s only look at applications from TJ that are 4.5+ and above. Data is vary clear on this.

Some kids have shared their stats in the TJ2022 college destinations. For the kids who did not ED, if they have 4.5+ GPA then they are all waitlisted by CMU. Only kids having less than 4.5 GPA have been accepted in RD. So, clearly CMU picks lower GPA.. may be yield protection. I don't know.

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Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.

Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves

The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals

So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:

George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020

Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270

Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent

You have listed "exceptional" talent in only one area - Leadership/Politics. My kid will definitely not be as exceptional as those you have listed in this field but her chosen field is CS .. She has academic and extra-curricular credentials to justify that she has the "potential" to be exceptional in her chosen field. I guess that should be acknowledged and accepted in atleast one of the top schools in my opinion.

Oof. You’re still thinking like it was when you applied to college. Time to join us in 2022.

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Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.

Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves

The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals

So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:

George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020

Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270

Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent

You have listed "exceptional" talent in only one area - Leadership/Politics. My kid will definitely not be as exceptional as those you have listed in this field but her chosen field is CS .. She has academic and extra-curricular credentials to justify that she has the "potential" to be exceptional in her chosen field. I guess that should be acknowledged and accepted in atleast one of the top schools in my opinion.

Is she white? If so - thousands of others are ahead of her. I am sorry. She will do well in life because she works hard. Best.

NP. Thousands ahead of her? A female from the number 1 stem HS in the country at the top of her class in GPA? I don’t think so

Your extremely high stats kid is a dime a dozen in the very top schools’ applicant pool.

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Anonymous wrote:NP Does anyone know why TJ kids don't choose Georgia Tech? Is it that they don't get in or they choose not to go?

It’s in Georgia.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated TJHSST with a 4.46 weighted GPA (slightly lower when she was actually applying to colleges), varsity athlete in 2 sports and debate. He was rejected by the few Ivys he applied to but got into Pitt Honors, UVA Echols, UMichigan, Northwestern, Carnegie Mellon and Williams.

Must not be white or Asian. Whites and Asians don't get in anywhere.

Your sour grapes are delicious.

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Anonymous wrote:What is all this woke bullshit? I was at a recent event at VT and the CS students were 85% Asian and white males, with a handful of girls and and even smaller number of black and Latino students. Show me one CS or engineering department in this country that's not overwhelmingly white and Asian. Go ahead, I'll wait. The numbers don't lie, but all the "woke" talk is just like stop the steal - total bullshit to push a political narrative.

People have to find a scapegoat when their kid doesn't make the cut. Look at the number of white and Asian kid at most schools that DCUM complains about and you'll see that the "white and Asian kids never get in posters" are completely disengienuois. They are just trying to blame other URMs (easy targets) for the fact that their kid didn't get accepted to the school they "thought" the kid should.

Just because the departments are "overwhelmingly" Asian and White does NOT mean that the remaining 15% are better qualified than the OP's kid. That's the point of the PP you were referring to.. Logic is difficult..

Yes, you want the schools to be 100% white and Asian because that policy would benefit your white and Asian kids. We get it. Logic is easy…

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Anonymous wrote:Folks - if your child is not URM, first gen, staff or faulty at school, recruited athlete, or high level connected/donor - your child”/
chances of acceptance are slim to none. The best thing college counselors at any school in the DMV can do is be honest about that. If your child is a white male of European descent -minus acceptance chances. Reality.

your bitter whining is sweet sweet music to my ears.

Who are you? You are the only who is bitter, and I can’t imagine what kind of parent you are to your kid. Aren’t we parents all want the best for our kids? Watching them being upset is hard. To be feasting on others’ misery makes you a very sad soul!

Nope. Sorry. There’s a difference between students being understandably sad and entitled parents stomping their feet on the internet that their precious, precious snowflake was ENTITLED to a top 20 school because (insert list of credentials matching the majority of the top 20 schools’ applicant pools) and clearly the only reason they weren’t one of the under 10% accepted is BECAUSE THEY WERE MALE, WHITE OR ASIAN (INSERT DRAMATIC FOOT STOMP)

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Anonymous wrote:NP Does anyone know why TJ kids don't choose Georgia Tech? Is it that they don't get in or they choose not to go?

It’s in Georgia.

yes. so?

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Anonymous wrote:NP Does anyone know why TJ kids don't choose Georgia Tech? Is it that they don't get in or they choose not to go?

It’s in Georgia.

yes. so?

An ignorant southern Red state where many intelligent people do not wish to live for four years when they have other options.

But then, you already knew that.

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Anonymous wrote:NP Does anyone know why TJ kids don't choose Georgia Tech? Is it that they don't get in or they choose not to go?

It’s in Georgia.

yes. so?

An ignorant southern Red state where many intelligent people do not wish to live for four years when they have other options.

But then, you already knew that.

But GA Tech is in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:We are having a hard time putting our list together. So wanted to find out where TJ kids with 4.3 - 4.4 GPA are likely to be accepted. Our DC is probably end up in that range with after her senior year with very high SAT score.

From TJ, you are not getting into the Ivy+ schools with that GPA unless you are aiming for something non-tech AND you have outstanding ECs that are one of a kind. Might have a shot if you are female or URM.

Share what your kid wants to study as well as profile (URM, male/female, GPA, number of APs, classes planned for senior year, intended course of study, ECs and leadership roles, etc.). Without that input, it's hard to provide any advice.

I assume this is specific to TJ—gpa.

My kid has had all As in the most rigorous course load available (honors/APs) and 4.4 gpa is the highest you can obtain (private). The school is known for rigor.

I assume schools with countless APs are different.

Highest TJ-gpa is generally between 4.6 - 4.7 (likely below 4.7). Even though most Ivy's and T10s say Gpa is just a data point, it is not true for TJ kids. The Naviance scattergram is clear on Ivy's and T10s only admitting TJ kids in the 4.5-4.6+ range. 4.3 -4.4 are right below where the Ivy's admit and they are either denied or waitlisted to be ultimately denied. The difference between a 4.4 and a 4.5 is couple of B+s and A-s in some of the hardest classes at TJ and for that matter for any high schooler at any school. The holistic admission is a total myth at least when it comes to TJ kids because data never lies. The admission of TJ kids are purely GPA driven.

I am not sure if it purely GPA driven. If that was the case, 4.52 kid should've gotten into Ivies/T10s.

4.5+ does not guarantee a spot at Ivies/T10's but not having 4.5+ guarantees denial from those schools. Another way to look at it, Ivies/T10s only look at applications from TJ that are 4.5+ and above. Data is vary clear on this.

Some kids have shared their stats in the TJ2022 college destinations. For the kids who did not ED, if they have 4.5+ GPA then they are all waitlisted by CMU. Only kids having less than 4.5 GPA have been accepted in RD. So, clearly CMU picks lower GPA.. may be yield protection. I don't know.

That's new, because our 2017 TJ grad with GPA > 4.5 got into CMU RD.

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Anonymous wrote:We are having a hard time putting our list together. So wanted to find out where TJ kids with 4.3 - 4.4 GPA are likely to be accepted. Our DC is probably end up in that range with after her senior year with very high SAT score.

From TJ, you are not getting into the Ivy+ schools with that GPA unless you are aiming for something non-tech AND you have outstanding ECs that are one of a kind. Might have a shot if you are female or URM.

Share what your kid wants to study as well as profile (URM, male/female, GPA, number of APs, classes planned for senior year, intended course of study, ECs and leadership roles, etc.). Without that input, it's hard to provide any advice.

I assume this is specific to TJ—gpa.

My kid has had all As in the most rigorous course load available (honors/APs) and 4.4 gpa is the highest you can obtain (private). The school is known for rigor.

I assume schools with countless APs are different.

Highest TJ-gpa is generally between 4.6 - 4.7 (likely below 4.7). Even though most Ivy's and T10s say Gpa is just a data point, it is not true for TJ kids. The Naviance scattergram is clear on Ivy's and T10s only admitting TJ kids in the 4.5-4.6+ range. 4.3 -4.4 are right below where the Ivy's admit and they are either denied or waitlisted to be ultimately denied. The difference between a 4.4 and a 4.5 is couple of B+s and A-s in some of the hardest classes at TJ and for that matter for any high schooler at any school. The holistic admission is a total myth at least when it comes to TJ kids because data never lies. The admission of TJ kids are purely GPA driven.

I am not sure if it purely GPA driven. If that was the case, 4.52 kid should've gotten into Ivies/T10s.

4.5+ does not guarantee a spot at Ivies/T10's but not having 4.5+ guarantees denial from those schools. Another way to look at it, Ivies/T10s only look at applications from TJ that are 4.5+ and above. Data is vary clear on this.

Some kids have shared their stats in the TJ2022 college destinations. For the kids who did not ED, if they have 4.5+ GPA then they are all waitlisted by CMU. Only kids having less than 4.5 GPA have been accepted in RD. So, clearly CMU picks lower GPA.. may be yield protection. I don't know.

That's new, because our 2017 TJ grad with GPA > 4.5 got into CMU RD.

Is it for School of Computer Science?

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2017 is light-years away from 2022 admissions climate, 100% irrelevant

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Felt so sad reading this thread. My DC will likely have a GPA of 4.1-4.2 from TJ. It seems like NOVA community college is a real possibility now.