What are your thoughts on the Pennsylvania senate race?

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Anonymous wrote:Fetterman is struggling in the western part of the state because that is Colin Lamb's territory. Being from Mt Lebanon means he has a lot of Pittsburgh support, even though Fetterman was mayor of Braddock. But once Fetterman knocks Lamb out of the primary, then Pittsburgh will go all in on Fetterman. And Pittsburgh has a lot more votes than the rest of western PA. Fetterman is going to have the East and West and Oz will have the middle of the state. As long as Fetterman can lock up the suburban votes and pull out some of the middle state voters like around York, Lancaster, Harrisburg and State College, he'll win. The key is to get a significant portion of the middle state small city votes and he's been working on that. His support in the small cities is much like Biden's which is why I think he'll do as well as Biden did.

I spend a lot of time in PA including areas near York and Lancaster and have to disagree with this. There is a big difference between Biden and Fetterman. Assuming that Fetterman is the D candidate, I don't think that he will do any better than Biden and likely will do worse.

Why?

Because a very high percentage of the support for Fetterman is from young people (this is anecdotal. I might be wrong have no idea if polling supports this).

This demographic of voters has consistently underperformed at the polls, relative to forecasts.

I'm 65, from NEPA, and i and all my D friend are voting for Fetterman. We don't need another DINO and that is the perception of Lamb.

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Anonymous wrote:Fetterman is struggling in the western part of the state because that is Colin Lamb's territory. Being from Mt Lebanon means he has a lot of Pittsburgh support, even though Fetterman was mayor of Braddock. But once Fetterman knocks Lamb out of the primary, then Pittsburgh will go all in on Fetterman. And Pittsburgh has a lot more votes than the rest of western PA. Fetterman is going to have the East and West and Oz will have the middle of the state. As long as Fetterman can lock up the suburban votes and pull out some of the middle state voters like around York, Lancaster, Harrisburg and State College, he'll win. The key is to get a significant portion of the middle state small city votes and he's been working on that. His support in the small cities is much like Biden's which is why I think he'll do as well as Biden did.

I spend a lot of time in PA including areas near York and Lancaster and have to disagree with this. There is a big difference between Biden and Fetterman. Assuming that Fetterman is the D candidate, I don't think that he will do any better than Biden and likely will do worse.

Why?

Because a very high percentage of the support for Fetterman is from young people (this is anecdotal. I might be wrong have no idea if polling supports this).

This demographic of voters has consistently underperformed at the polls, relative to forecasts.

I'm 65, from NEPA, and i and all my D friend are voting for Fetterman. We don't need another DINO and that is the perception of Lamb.

So a bunch of socialist left wing boomers who would vote for the most progressive choice in every election is somehow reflective of statewide politics and guarantees the boring middle ground suburbs will follow who you vote for?

A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman. It's to Fetterman's luck there isn't a normal R in this election. But is it enough luck in what is shaping up to be a strong R year? Time will tell

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A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman.

You haven’t been paying attention to how suburbs have been voting the last five or so years.

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A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman.

You haven’t been paying attention to how suburbs have been voting the last five or so years.

My parents are suburban PA, former Republicans in their 70s.

They are Fetterman all the way bc they think he’s the stronger candidate and they tire of fascists in the state of PA. The end.

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A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman.

You haven’t been paying attention to how suburbs have been voting the last five or so years.

My parents are suburban PA, former Republicans in their 70s.

They are Fetterman all the way bc they think he’s the stronger candidate and they tire of fascists in the state of PA. The end.

New poster, not the PP here. Well, we shall see what happens. I probably would slightly prefer Fetterman over whoever is the R candidate, but I just don’t think that’s going to happen.

Another anecdote, I correctly predicted 2016 for Trump based on my observations all around PA. Maybe this time will be different.

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A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman.

You haven’t been paying attention to how suburbs have been voting the last five or so years.

My parents are suburban PA, former Republicans in their 70s.

They are Fetterman all the way bc they think he’s the stronger candidate and they tire of fascists in the state of PA. The end.

New poster, not the PP here. Well, we shall see what happens. I probably would slightly prefer Fetterman over whoever is the R candidate, but I just don’t think that’s going to happen.

Another anecdote, I correctly predicted 2016 for Trump based on my observations all around PA. Maybe this time will be different.

You had a 50% chance of being correct, so it wasn't much of a bet.

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A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman.

You haven’t been paying attention to how suburbs have been voting the last five or so years.

My parents are suburban PA, former Republicans in their 70s.

They are Fetterman all the way bc they think he’s the stronger candidate and they tire of fascists in the state of PA. The end.

There is also the small matter that there is no normal mainstream R even running. They are all varying degrees of crazy MAGA.

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What are Oz’s chances?

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I live in a suburb of Pittsburgh. Republicans do not want Kathy Barnette and fear she will hand the election to the Dems. Lots of commentators on tv today said they think she will win. I find her extremely unqualified and do not think a Dem win is assured by her primary victory - see the 2016 presidential race. I think Fetterman will win tomorrow. I have met him and Giselle and they are both genuine and authentic people. A group of us solicited items for a free store she has in Braddock where they live. She started it and people can come in and get whatever they need for free, no questions asked. People will hold fundraisers and donate items when she is running low on diapers, wipes etc (or other items).

They stayed in their home in Braddock and did not move into the Lt Governor’s mansion. He opened the pool at the mansion to low income kids. I hope he can win in the fall. I do love Conor but he has not run a good campaign. As a rep, he is very involved with the community and is always at events (he currently represents my district). There was an article in Politico that he was more interested in endorsements for this primary race. It was thought that he would be the best general election candidate but Fetterman has run a better race and can hopefully pivot against the general election opponent.

It will be a tense day tomorrow in PA and then several tense months until the general.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a suburb of Pittsburgh. Republicans do not want Kathy Barnette and fear she will hand the election to the Dems. Lots of commentators on tv today said they think she will win. I find her extremely unqualified and do not think a Dem win is assured by her primary victory - see the 2016 presidential race. I think Fetterman will win tomorrow. I have met him and Giselle and they are both genuine and authentic people. A group of us solicited items for a free store she has in Braddock where they live. She started it and people can come in and get whatever they need for free, no questions asked. People will hold fundraisers and donate items when she is running low on diapers, wipes etc (or other items).

They stayed in their home in Braddock and did not move into the Lt Governor’s mansion. He opened the pool at the mansion to low income kids. I hope he can win in the fall. I do love Conor but he has not run a good campaign. As a rep, he is very involved with the community and is always at events (he currently represents my district). There was an article in Politico that he was more interested in endorsements for this primary race. It was thought that he would be the best general election candidate but Fetterman has run a better race and can hopefully pivot against the general election opponent.

It will be a tense day tomorrow in PA and then several tense months until the general.

Thank you for this post. It was very informative. Please keep us updated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fetterman is struggling in the western part of the state because that is Colin Lamb's territory. Being from Mt Lebanon means he has a lot of Pittsburgh support, even though Fetterman was mayor of Braddock. But once Fetterman knocks Lamb out of the primary, then Pittsburgh will go all in on Fetterman. And Pittsburgh has a lot more votes than the rest of western PA. Fetterman is going to have the East and West and Oz will have the middle of the state. As long as Fetterman can lock up the suburban votes and pull out some of the middle state voters like around York, Lancaster, Harrisburg and State College, he'll win. The key is to get a significant portion of the middle state small city votes and he's been working on that. His support in the small cities is much like Biden's which is why I think he'll do as well as Biden did.

I spend a lot of time in PA including areas near York and Lancaster and have to disagree with this. There is a big difference between Biden and Fetterman. Assuming that Fetterman is the D candidate, I don't think that he will do any better than Biden and likely will do worse.

Why?

Because a very high percentage of the support for Fetterman is from young people (this is anecdotal. I might be wrong have no idea if polling supports this).

This demographic of voters has consistently underperformed at the polls, relative to forecasts.

I'm 65, from NEPA, and i and all my D friend are voting for Fetterman. We don't need another DINO and that is the perception of Lamb.

So a bunch of socialist left wing boomers who would vote for the most progressive choice in every election is somehow reflective of statewide politics and guarantees the boring middle ground suburbs will follow who you vote for?

A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman. It's to Fetterman's luck there isn't a normal R in this election. But is it enough luck in what is shaping up to be a strong R year? Time will tell

My friends are not exclusively boomers or Democrats. PA has closed primaries so my R friends can't vote for Fetterman or they would.

I offered an anecdote, not a prediction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fetterman is struggling in the western part of the state because that is Colin Lamb's territory. Being from Mt Lebanon means he has a lot of Pittsburgh support, even though Fetterman was mayor of Braddock. But once Fetterman knocks Lamb out of the primary, then Pittsburgh will go all in on Fetterman. And Pittsburgh has a lot more votes than the rest of western PA. Fetterman is going to have the East and West and Oz will have the middle of the state. As long as Fetterman can lock up the suburban votes and pull out some of the middle state voters like around York, Lancaster, Harrisburg and State College, he'll win. The key is to get a significant portion of the middle state small city votes and he's been working on that. His support in the small cities is much like Biden's which is why I think he'll do as well as Biden did.

I spend a lot of time in PA including areas near York and Lancaster and have to disagree with this. There is a big difference between Biden and Fetterman. Assuming that Fetterman is the D candidate, I don't think that he will do any better than Biden and likely will do worse.

Why?

Because a very high percentage of the support for Fetterman is from young people (this is anecdotal. I might be wrong have no idea if polling supports this).

This demographic of voters has consistently underperformed at the polls, relative to forecasts.

I'm 65, from NEPA, and i and all my D friend are voting for Fetterman. We don't need another DINO and that is the perception of Lamb.

So a bunch of socialist left wing boomers who would vote for the most progressive choice in every election is somehow reflective of statewide politics and guarantees the boring middle ground suburbs will follow who you vote for?

A normal mainstream R would easily carry the suburbs over Fetterman. It's to Fetterman's luck there isn't a normal R in this election. But is it enough luck in what is shaping up to be a strong R year? Time will tell

DP. What? Do you just use words and hope no one else knows the meanings either?

Great that Manchin’s Republican butt is confirming Biden’s justices, but he’s a Republican. We don’t need more DINOs forking up the country; there are enough Republicans doing that already.

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Sarah Longwell has an interesting podcast released on Saturday about Rep, Ind and Dem voters in PA- it's a sampling of different focus groups conducted in PA.

Take aways? No one likes Oz or the hedge fund guy. People love Fetterman including Inds and Dems and even some of the Reps.

My family is all in on Fetterman and it's mostly Ind and Rep.

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Anonymous wrote:Sarah Longwell has an interesting podcast released on Saturday about Rep, Ind and Dem voters in PA- it's a sampling of different focus groups conducted in PA.

Take aways? No one likes Oz or the hedge fund guy. People love Fetterman including Inds and Dems and even some of the Reps.

My family is all in on Fetterman and it's mostly Ind and Rep.

Outside of his position on Wawa, I love him.

Perfect blend of intelligence, pragmatism, and decency. Plus, he’s willing to put the work in.

Hope he wins and considers the WH in the future.

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