APS: Fall 2022 Boundary Changes will be Limited due to low enrollment

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Anonymous wrote:I love all the...if people would just cooperate with boundary adjustments.

1. Pay attention when they do boundary adjustments that do not directly impact you and speak up and say the things you are saying and advocate for bigger-picture thinking. So few people do this. Which is why...

2. Wait until these changes affect your school. Because somehow in the history of these boundary changes (and I've been hanging around this stuff for too long due to the age of my kids), no school community behaves well. The loudest parents and in particular the PTAs are self-interested, loud, and atrociously obnoxious.

It would be one thing if APS made sensible recommendations. Their proposals often border on nuts. The last round proposed moving Glebe from 110% capacity to 145% capacity while Nottingham and Discovery were below 90%. At Glebe this would have meant classes in hallways and covering the small basketball court with more trailers. It was a ridiculous proposal. If a school community sits quietly by then the have to deal with the consequences of APS not having one shred of common sense.

This is not accurate. From APS's initial presentations for Glebe posted October 2020:

2019-20 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 113% (including 4 existing relocatables 95%)
Estimated 2021-22 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 128% (including 4 existing relocatables 108%)
Estimated 2023-24 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 122% (including 4 existing relocatables 103%)

The same presentation references that one planning unit already assigned to Glebe could be designated walkable to Reed (and eventually was designated as such) so that would have further alleviated pressure at Glebe and made sense from a transportation perspective. The process wasn't allowed to play out in any way that made sense. It was just immediate freak outs and APS shut the whole thing down.

These numbers aren't the original APS proposal. Glebe is one of four elemtary schools in APS that is over capacity even with the COVID decrease in enrollment. APS wasn't proposing to move any kids out, only busing many more kids to Glebe.

APS may have designated part of the Glebe zone as walkable to Cardinal, but APS wasn't going to move any kids there. Cardinal was already full in the APS plan. Those kids were staying at Glebe and have stayed at Glebe. The question was whether Glebe was going to pick up a chunk of McKinley (keeping all of their existing students and despite already being overcrowded) so Nottingham students could attend Cardinal, leaving Nottingham significantly over enrolled.

So the way the process works is APS puts out an original proposal and then always tweaks it. It's a starting point, not the end point. Cardinal was not full in the initial APS plan. It was only pretty near full by the end when APS went with the option of putting nearly all of McKinley at Cardinal (minus the 3 planning units that went to Ashlawn plus and the one Tuckahoe unit that got the option to attend). There could have been plenty of room in a sensible world to move some of those Glebe kids to Cardinal and move Madison Manor to Tuckahoe instead of Cardinal. That probably would have made a lot of sense in terms of continuing to bus kids that were already bused and maximize walks and even out enrollment.

BUT....the point is people FREAK OUT at the first proposal that yes, might affect their school or them personally negatively. So yes, the Glebe parents freaked out and the Ashlawn parents freaked out and some of the former McKinley parents freaked out. Oh and the Tuckahoe and Nottingham parents freaked out with threats they would be option schools once left under enrolled.

It's a lot of self-involved freaking out.

"Advocacy" in light of the ridiculous and expensive musical chair school moves (key to ATS, ATS to McKinley, McKinley to Cardinal) was entire appropriate. By then the School Board was exhausted by the controversy and agreed to allow McKinley to move (almost) in its entirety to Cardinal. Hopefully, the amount to advocacy by local parents was enough to kill and bury other such insane school moves in the future.

Yes to planning unit adjustments, a big fat unequivocal NO to moving whole schools. Sheesh.

I'm still pissed about this. ES students had no idea what school they went to so cardinal/McK should have been right sized right then. We are all in pain; bring it! But not. School board should be fired.

Further proof rich white people get what they want.

They didn’t move as many kids out of McKinley during the move because of the pandemic. They were worried about mental health.
As a parent who was rezoned as part of the last boundary assignment, they were right to limit changes. We didn’t get moved to innovation because they were worried about overfilling innovation, and so we ended up at Taylor. My fourth grader knew no one and experienced pretty scary depression (we started seeing a therapist). You can argue maybe my child would have needed help regardless, but I think the pandemic plus the forced social changes exacerbated everything. Innovation ended up being empty, so it was unnecessary too.

Why is Innovation so empty? What happened there?

An empty Innovation is what allowed the County to green light all of the Affordable Housing projects in Rosslyn.

The County doesn't consider schools or school enrollment when approving AH projects. Certainly not when those AH units are in areas like Rosslyn and the the Pike where it already is.

Yes, everyone in Arlington has realized that point. Thanks. That's the whole problem.

If you read the previous comment I was responding to, you will see that, apparently, not everyone gets that.

You were replying to me. I don’t think APS plans. At ALL. But I did get the feeling that they were planning to dump all the kids from those developments on Innovation and that in order to do that, they decided to tortuously move planning units around and let that school sit nearly half empty. Which I think wasn’t a good use of resources. Maybe I’m wrong about that, though. I certainly wasn’t defending them, if that’s what it looked like in my comment.

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Anonymous wrote:I love all the...if people would just cooperate with boundary adjustments.

1. Pay attention when they do boundary adjustments that do not directly impact you and speak up and say the things you are saying and advocate for bigger-picture thinking. So few people do this. Which is why...

2. Wait until these changes affect your school. Because somehow in the history of these boundary changes (and I've been hanging around this stuff for too long due to the age of my kids), no school community behaves well. The loudest parents and in particular the PTAs are self-interested, loud, and atrociously obnoxious.

It would be one thing if APS made sensible recommendations. Their proposals often border on nuts. The last round proposed moving Glebe from 110% capacity to 145% capacity while Nottingham and Discovery were below 90%. At Glebe this would have meant classes in hallways and covering the small basketball court with more trailers. It was a ridiculous proposal. If a school community sits quietly by then the have to deal with the consequences of APS not having one shred of common sense.

This is not accurate. From APS's initial presentations for Glebe posted October 2020:

2019-20 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 113% (including 4 existing relocatables 95%)
Estimated 2021-22 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 128% (including 4 existing relocatables 108%)
Estimated 2023-24 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 122% (including 4 existing relocatables 103%)

The same presentation references that one planning unit already assigned to Glebe could be designated walkable to Reed (and eventually was designated as such) so that would have further alleviated pressure at Glebe and made sense from a transportation perspective. The process wasn't allowed to play out in any way that made sense. It was just immediate freak outs and APS shut the whole thing down.

These numbers aren't the original APS proposal. Glebe is one of four elemtary schools in APS that is over capacity even with the COVID decrease in enrollment. APS wasn't proposing to move any kids out, only busing many more kids to Glebe.

APS may have designated part of the Glebe zone as walkable to Cardinal, but APS wasn't going to move any kids there. Cardinal was already full in the APS plan. Those kids were staying at Glebe and have stayed at Glebe. The question was whether Glebe was going to pick up a chunk of McKinley (keeping all of their existing students and despite already being overcrowded) so Nottingham students could attend Cardinal, leaving Nottingham significantly over enrolled.

So the way the process works is APS puts out an original proposal and then always tweaks it. It's a starting point, not the end point. Cardinal was not full in the initial APS plan. It was only pretty near full by the end when APS went with the option of putting nearly all of McKinley at Cardinal (minus the 3 planning units that went to Ashlawn plus and the one Tuckahoe unit that got the option to attend). There could have been plenty of room in a sensible world to move some of those Glebe kids to Cardinal and move Madison Manor to Tuckahoe instead of Cardinal. That probably would have made a lot of sense in terms of continuing to bus kids that were already bused and maximize walks and even out enrollment.

BUT....the point is people FREAK OUT at the first proposal that yes, might affect their school or them personally negatively. So yes, the Glebe parents freaked out and the Ashlawn parents freaked out and some of the former McKinley parents freaked out. Oh and the Tuckahoe and Nottingham parents freaked out with threats they would be option schools once left under enrolled.

It's a lot of self-involved freaking out.

"Advocacy" in light of the ridiculous and expensive musical chair school moves (key to ATS, ATS to McKinley, McKinley to Cardinal) was entire appropriate. By then the School Board was exhausted by the controversy and agreed to allow McKinley to move (almost) in its entirety to Cardinal. Hopefully, the amount to advocacy by local parents was enough to kill and bury other such insane school moves in the future.

Yes to planning unit adjustments, a big fat unequivocal NO to moving whole schools. Sheesh.

I'm still pissed about this. ES students had no idea what school they went to so cardinal/McK should have been right sized right then. We are all in pain; bring it! But not. School board should be fired.

Further proof rich white people get what they want.

They didn’t move as many kids out of McKinley during the move because of the pandemic. They were worried about mental health.
As a parent who was rezoned as part of the last boundary assignment, they were right to limit changes. We didn’t get moved to innovation because they were worried about overfilling innovation, and so we ended up at Taylor. My fourth grader knew no one and experienced pretty scary depression (we started seeing a therapist). You can argue maybe my child would have needed help regardless, but I think the pandemic plus the forced social changes exacerbated everything. Innovation ended up being empty, so it was unnecessary too.

Why is Innovation so empty? What happened there?

An empty Innovation is what allowed the County to green light all of the Affordable Housing projects in Rosslyn.

The County doesn't consider schools or school enrollment when approving AH projects. Certainly not when those AH units are in areas like Rosslyn and the the Pike where it already is.

Yes, everyone in Arlington has realized that point. Thanks. That's the whole problem.

If you read the previous comment I was responding to, you will see that, apparently, not everyone gets that.

You were replying to me. I don’t think APS plans. At ALL. But I did get the feeling that they were planning to dump all the kids from those developments on Innovation and that in order to do that, they decided to tortuously move planning units around and let that school sit nearly half empty. Which I think wasn’t a good use of resources. Maybe I’m wrong about that, though. I certainly wasn’t defending them, if that’s what it looked like in my comment.

I apologize if I'm not correctly understanding your comment. It seemed to me that you were saying the CB chose to approve a bunch of affordable housing projects for Rosslyn based on enrollment levels and capacity availability in the area schools. I'm just stating that the status of schools has nothing to do with CB's approval of affordable housing developments. They would have done the same if the schools were still bursting at their seams.

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Anonymous wrote:I love all the...if people would just cooperate with boundary adjustments.

1. Pay attention when they do boundary adjustments that do not directly impact you and speak up and say the things you are saying and advocate for bigger-picture thinking. So few people do this. Which is why...

2. Wait until these changes affect your school. Because somehow in the history of these boundary changes (and I've been hanging around this stuff for too long due to the age of my kids), no school community behaves well. The loudest parents and in particular the PTAs are self-interested, loud, and atrociously obnoxious.

It would be one thing if APS made sensible recommendations. Their proposals often border on nuts. The last round proposed moving Glebe from 110% capacity to 145% capacity while Nottingham and Discovery were below 90%. At Glebe this would have meant classes in hallways and covering the small basketball court with more trailers. It was a ridiculous proposal. If a school community sits quietly by then the have to deal with the consequences of APS not having one shred of common sense.

This is not accurate. From APS's initial presentations for Glebe posted October 2020:

2019-20 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 113% (including 4 existing relocatables 95%)
Estimated 2021-22 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 128% (including 4 existing relocatables 108%)
Estimated 2023-24 PreK-5 Capacity Utilization 122% (including 4 existing relocatables 103%)

The same presentation references that one planning unit already assigned to Glebe could be designated walkable to Reed (and eventually was designated as such) so that would have further alleviated pressure at Glebe and made sense from a transportation perspective. The process wasn't allowed to play out in any way that made sense. It was just immediate freak outs and APS shut the whole thing down.

These numbers aren't the original APS proposal. Glebe is one of four elemtary schools in APS that is over capacity even with the COVID decrease in enrollment. APS wasn't proposing to move any kids out, only busing many more kids to Glebe.

APS may have designated part of the Glebe zone as walkable to Cardinal, but APS wasn't going to move any kids there. Cardinal was already full in the APS plan. Those kids were staying at Glebe and have stayed at Glebe. The question was whether Glebe was going to pick up a chunk of McKinley (keeping all of their existing students and despite already being overcrowded) so Nottingham students could attend Cardinal, leaving Nottingham significantly over enrolled.

So the way the process works is APS puts out an original proposal and then always tweaks it. It's a starting point, not the end point. Cardinal was not full in the initial APS plan. It was only pretty near full by the end when APS went with the option of putting nearly all of McKinley at Cardinal (minus the 3 planning units that went to Ashlawn plus and the one Tuckahoe unit that got the option to attend). There could have been plenty of room in a sensible world to move some of those Glebe kids to Cardinal and move Madison Manor to Tuckahoe instead of Cardinal. That probably would have made a lot of sense in terms of continuing to bus kids that were already bused and maximize walks and even out enrollment.

BUT....the point is people FREAK OUT at the first proposal that yes, might affect their school or them personally negatively. So yes, the Glebe parents freaked out and the Ashlawn parents freaked out and some of the former McKinley parents freaked out. Oh and the Tuckahoe and Nottingham parents freaked out with threats they would be option schools once left under enrolled.

It's a lot of self-involved freaking out.

"Advocacy" in light of the ridiculous and expensive musical chair school moves (key to ATS, ATS to McKinley, McKinley to Cardinal) was entire appropriate. By then the School Board was exhausted by the controversy and agreed to allow McKinley to move (almost) in its entirety to Cardinal. Hopefully, the amount to advocacy by local parents was enough to kill and bury other such insane school moves in the future.

Yes to planning unit adjustments, a big fat unequivocal NO to moving whole schools. Sheesh.

I'm still pissed about this. ES students had no idea what school they went to so cardinal/McK should have been right sized right then. We are all in pain; bring it! But not. School board should be fired.

Further proof rich white people get what they want.

They didn’t move as many kids out of McKinley during the move because of the pandemic. They were worried about mental health.
As a parent who was rezoned as part of the last boundary assignment, they were right to limit changes. We didn’t get moved to innovation because they were worried about overfilling innovation, and so we ended up at Taylor. My fourth grader knew no one and experienced pretty scary depression (we started seeing a therapist). You can argue maybe my child would have needed help regardless, but I think the pandemic plus the forced social changes exacerbated everything. Innovation ended up being empty, so it was unnecessary too.

Why is Innovation so empty? What happened there?

An empty Innovation is what allowed the County to green light all of the Affordable Housing projects in Rosslyn.

The County doesn't consider schools or school enrollment when approving AH projects. Certainly not when those AH units are in areas like Rosslyn and the the Pike where it already is.

Yes, everyone in Arlington has realized that point. Thanks. That's the whole problem.

If you read the previous comment I was responding to, you will see that, apparently, not everyone gets that.

You were replying to me. I don’t think APS plans. At ALL. But I did get the feeling that they were planning to dump all the kids from those developments on Innovation and that in order to do that, they decided to tortuously move planning units around and let that school sit nearly half empty. Which I think wasn’t a good use of resources. Maybe I’m wrong about that, though. I certainly wasn’t defending them, if that’s what it looked like in my comment.

I apologize if I'm not correctly understanding your comment. It seemed to me that you were saying the CB chose to approve a bunch of affordable housing projects for Rosslyn based on enrollment levels and capacity availability in the area schools. I'm just stating that the status of schools has nothing to do with CB's approval of affordable housing developments. They would have done the same if the schools were still bursting at their seams.

I agree with you, no need to apologize! They don’t seem to care about the schools at all. Such a shame!

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

People would have equally freaked if an option school got a brand new building.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

People would have equally freaked if an option school got a brand new building.

Rightfully so.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

The School Board committed on the record to Cardinal being a neighborhood school. It was a condition with the local community to get them to support cramming the giant school on that site. The site could not support the traffic of an option school. It can’t support the traffic it has now as a neighborhood school very well.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

People would have equally freaked if an option school got a brand new building.

Rightfully so.

See: HB Woodlawn

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

People would have equally freaked if an option school got a brand new building.

Rightfully so.

See: HB Woodlawn

HB Woodlawn better be the new elementary school for Rosslyn that’s going to be needed in the next decade.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

The School Board committed on the record to Cardinal being a neighborhood school. It was a condition with the local community to get them to support cramming the giant school on that site. The site could not support the traffic of an option school. It can’t support the traffic it has now as a neighborhood school very well.

I don't think option schools have more traffic than neighborhood schools so that was not well thought out.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

The School Board committed on the record to Cardinal being a neighborhood school. It was a condition with the local community to get them to support cramming the giant school on that site. The site could not support the traffic of an option school. It can’t support the traffic it has now as a neighborhood school very well.

I don't think option schools have more traffic than neighborhood schools so that was not well thought out.

Option schools have way more traffic than neighborhood schools. They have 2-3x as many busses and more parents that drive since their bus rides are twice as long as neighborhood schools.

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Anonymous wrote:People. They're just not doing the boundary adjustment next near They're not saying they'll never need to do it. They're making the decision based on the information they have right now. Which why disrupt kids and families when the schools aren't full????

Are you saying none of the schools are over capacity? That’s not true.

It is true.

I think some of the option schools are still over the permanent building capacity. That's their own fault, though. They could just go to their neighborhood school instead if it was a dealbreaker.

Key and Claremont are being shrunk (going from 6 K classes to 4 starting this year). Key was also moved to a smaller building this year.

It seems like there is a demand for immersion at the elementary level (at least for native English speakers). Do they not have enough native Spanish speakers for the program? Are they shrinking it bc of attrition in MS / HS?

Key is shrinking their K classes because they moved to a smaller building. It was planned with the move so they fit in the mew space.

Why can’t my neighborhood school shrink it’s K class. That’s a nice trick.

For the record, we (Key community) did not WANT to shrink from 6 to 4 K classes. We didn’t want to move to a smaller building & shrink the immersion program. We fought it. We lost. And now Innovation is under-enrolled.
And many folks who didn’t move with key were reassigned to ASFS instead of innovation (which had been their neighborhood school). Now they are asking for people to transfer from ASF back to innovation, if they’d like.

Agreed. The whole school moves was nutty.

Yup. Should’ve just moved Key to the new building that is now Cardinal and called it a day.

The School Board committed on the record to Cardinal being a neighborhood school. It was a condition with the local community to get them to support cramming the giant school on that site. The site could not support the traffic of an option school. It can’t support the traffic it has now as a neighborhood school very well.

I don't think option schools have more traffic than neighborhood schools so that was not well thought out.

Of course they have more traffic.