Anyone think we might be better off without Home Rule in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m super liberal but if offered a tax haven status I’d give up Home Rule in a second. Would hope clean streets and corruptless government would be part of the package.

Taxation without representation.
This is what the original Boston Tea Party was all about.

Pick one. Either give us representation or waive federal taxes for us.

You have a vote at the federal level. You vote for president same as every other citizen. You are a city, and you have city representation in your D.C. city council. Where is this taxation your taxation without representation? Do you mean you want to add 2 more D senators and send more Ds to congress for political purposes? Yes, I suspect that is the gist of your argument. Be honest.

This is such a disingenuous argument. People who live in DC DGAF about the power balance in sending two Dem senators to congress. They just want the representation. Party politics should not stop people from getting representation for how their tax dollars are spent.

+1 I want I senator I elected to call if I don’t like what congress is doing with my tax dollars. I want a *voting* congressional rep to represent my interests. If MD would take us back I’d be fine with that honestly, but I hear they don’t want us so I’ll take the tax exemption. Or DC Statehood. Either’s good with me.

You knowingly chose to live in the only city in the entire U.S. without Senators. People make compromises on where they live based on their priorities all the time, moving to the burbs for the schools, closer to a job for a shorter commute, closer to elderly family members or grandkids, etc. If picking up the phone to call a senator was your top priority, you maybe should have compromised on a different location. In your case, statistically, I suspect you are a D, and your senators would be Ds, so doubt you would actually be picking up the phone and doing much calling. Plus, they don't really care anyway; they virtually all vote party line except the couple who have a lot of Rs back home to answer to.

I am not the PP you are quoting but I am the PP you are responding to. I was born and raised in DC and although I am a registered dem (because otherwise you get no vote in the primary) I lean right and would absolutely vote for an R senator if that person better represented my views. When I lived in another state for grad school I voted for an R senator who took the place of a D senator.

The “you can choose where to live” line is a super lazy argument. The fact that I could move out of DC doesn’t mean I should have to in order to have a say in how my tax dollars are spent. People who voted for Trump in the last election could choose to leave the US if they don’t like the president but that doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to express their displeasure for Biden or vote against him.

PP made such a dumb, and frankly, un-American argument with "you chose to live here." If you had said that in Boston in December 1773 you would have been thrown into the bay along with the Tea.
Please, get on the right side of history. If you really want to deny people representation that badly then at least waive all federal taxes for DC residents.

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You are nuts! And yes, DC should not be a state.

Anonymous wrote:Your question is whether a majority minority city should be denied democracy?

Typing with a hood on must be difficult.

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Washington is too liberal a city to adequately address crime within its borders. See the recent drive by at Potomac Gardens. Everyone here is too obsessed with the potential for offending anyone to actually arrest and prosecute. The trend will only get worse. I hate Ted Cruz and most idiotic, vote stealing republicans, but they are simply tougher on crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Washington is too liberal a city to adequately address crime within its borders. See the recent drive by at Potomac Gardens. Everyone here is too obsessed with the potential for offending anyone to actually arrest and prosecute. The trend will only get worse. I hate Ted Cruz and most idiotic, vote stealing republicans, but they are simply tougher on crime.

Stats? How do you define “tougher?” Getting out of someone else’s truck for the photo op?

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Anonymous wrote:Washington is too liberal a city to adequately address crime within its borders. See the recent drive by at Potomac Gardens. Everyone here is too obsessed with the potential for offending anyone to actually arrest and prosecute. The trend will only get worse. I hate Ted Cruz and most idiotic, vote stealing republicans, but they are simply tougher on crime.

Every other city also has crime but still gets Senators and voting Representatives.

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Anonymous wrote:Washington is too liberal a city to adequately address crime within its borders. See the recent drive by at Potomac Gardens. Everyone here is too obsessed with the potential for offending anyone to actually arrest and prosecute. The trend will only get worse. I hate Ted Cruz and most idiotic, vote stealing republicans, but they are simply tougher on crime.

Every other city also has crime but still gets Senators and voting Representatives.

Yes, other cities have the same issues and could use less liberal, at least on crime, city councils.

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Anonymous wrote:Super Dem here, but please ask me if:
I’d rather not pay tax?
I’d take back my pro-marijuana vote now that the city smells like a dirty sock permanently?
I’d prefer less crime, better governance and no corruption?

If someone tries to legalize prostitution, I’d suggest first try living next to a neighbor plying their trade.

It’s all good till you get bricked in the head, and it’s only a matter of time by the way it’s going

I dread the day we get a new OAG, Racine was an awesome gift this city didn’t deserve

Why would you think we'd have less crime/better governance/no corruption if the people running the city were completely unaccountable to the people who live here, as they would be if Congress controlled the District on its own without local elected officials?

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Anonymous wrote:Super Dem here, but please ask me if:
I’d rather not pay tax?
I’d take back my pro-marijuana vote now that the city smells like a dirty sock permanently?
I’d prefer less crime, better governance and no corruption?

If someone tries to legalize prostitution, I’d suggest first try living next to a neighbor plying their trade.

It’s all good till you get bricked in the head, and it’s only a matter of time by the way it’s going

I dread the day we get a new OAG, Racine was an awesome gift this city didn’t deserve

Why would you think we'd have less crime/better governance/no corruption if the people running the city were completely unaccountable to the people who live here, as they would be if Congress controlled the District on its own without local elected officials?

You honestly think Congress is more corrupt than the DC council?

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Krucoff is a moron and should be defeated.

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Republicans complain about violent crime while blocking gun control.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans complain about violent crime while blocking gun control.

That's a feature, not a bug.

They want Chicago, DC, NYC, etc flooded with illegal guns and violence. It gives them a campaign talking point.

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I think DC would have a better chance if it rejoined Maryland. It would get its liberal politics and representation.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC would have a better chance if it rejoined Maryland. It would get its liberal politics and representation.

Neither DC nor Maryland want that, so it’s not a solution.

[Anonymous]

Our current leadership certainly hasn’t demonstrated the sort of competence that makes a compelling case for home rule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Super Dem here, but please ask me if:
I’d rather not pay tax?
I’d take back my pro-marijuana vote now that the city smells like a dirty sock permanently?
I’d prefer less crime, better governance and no corruption?

If someone tries to legalize prostitution, I’d suggest first try living next to a neighbor plying their trade.

It’s all good till you get bricked in the head, and it’s only a matter of time by the way it’s going

I dread the day we get a new OAG, Racine was an awesome gift this city didn’t deserve

Why would you think we'd have less crime/better governance/no corruption if the people running the city were completely unaccountable to the people who live here, as they would be if Congress controlled the District on its own without local elected officials?

You honestly think Congress is more corrupt than the DC council?

I think Congress is plenty corrupt, but mostly, I think the D.C. Council is more responsive to what the people of D.C. want than Congress would be, because the people of D.C. can vote them out (even if it happens relatively infrequently) and we don't get a vote at all for any members of Congress except one who doesn't vote. If you don't like the way the government in D.C. is working, organize to change who's in the government. Surely that's a better plan than just putting someone else in charge and taking away the local say entirely?