DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow

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Anonymous wrote:At this stage, who are we protecting with in-school masking? The teachers and staff have to be vaccinated, so are at low risk of hospitalization or death. The kids were already at low risk, and now with vaccination for all over 4, they are at any even lower risk. What's the point, particularly when school rates are dropping like community rates?

Mainly protecting the small but very vocal and deranged contingent on the far left clinging onto covid policies as some kind of identity for themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

Yeah, I don't get the complaint about it hurting restaurants. I know plenty of people who are MORE willing to dine indoors when there's a vax mandate, and it's not like checking the card is all that onerous. No vax mandate for restaurants means we'll probably stop eating indoors again, at least until we see how things shake out with the masking/vax mandates going away.

I love statements like this:

"Checking a card is not all that onerous." It's right up there with "masks are no big deal; no one minds wearing them."

PP, may I politely ask who the hell are you to make general assumptions like this, on behalf of other people, when you have no idea what you're talking about?

So explain how it's so hard. We went out to eat Saturday. The host looked at the photo of the card on our phone, and then led us to our table. It took less than a minute. How is that possibly hard?

So she looked at the photo of the card---did she check your ID to make sure you really are the person whose vaccine card you have a photo of?
How was she able to verify it really was you--if you are wearing a mask half of your face is hidden!

Or did you all step outside and pull down your masks so she could verify you are the person in your photo ID, and that the photo ID has the same name and birthdate as the vaccine card on your phone?

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Anonymous wrote:At this stage, who are we protecting with in-school masking? The teachers and staff have to be vaccinated, so are at low risk of hospitalization or death. The kids were already at low risk, and now with vaccination for all over 4, they are at any even lower risk. What's the point, particularly when school rates are dropping like community rates?

Mainly protecting the small but very vocal and deranged contingent on the far left clinging onto covid policies as some kind of identity for themselves.

Yep and people who think you can eliminate every risk.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

Because it sucks. And people who are vaccinated are going out of their way to eat in Virginia because they don’t like the mandates. Lots of lost business and headaches for the restaurant owners.

We are vaccinated DC residents. Drove to Georgetown on Saturday for dinner. Since it was the first time eating indoors since Omicron, we forgot about the vax mandate and one of our guests didn't have proof of vaccination. Got in the car and drove to VA for dinner. I imagine we are not the only family that has done this.

When we were booking our ski vacation, there were two places we had to take off our list because they didn't allow snowboarders. Even though only one of the eight people in our group snowboards. This is a good analogy for vaccine mandates, especially if you have tourists coming from states with lower vaccination rates. All it takes is for one member of the group to no be vaccinated, and DC restaurants would lose the business of the entire group.

I knew the Mayor was going to drop the vaccine mandate before the tourism season kicked off with the cherry blossom festival, or risk losing all of that tourism money to Virginia and Maryland.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC and watching COVID break some of you mentally is hilarious in a sad way. People who think we need mask mandates are the real vaccine science deniers. The vaccines work, masks are not that useful in stopping spread. Also in terms of mandates, the vaccines can stop you from getting very ill but they do NOT prevent transmission. Thus the claims of "I feel safer in places with a mandate" you're just revealing your own ignorance about the evolving science. A vaccine will not keep you from getting COVID from fellow vaccinated people. I say this as someone fully vaccinated. There is a hardcore contingent now of deranged people on the far left grasping at some kind of covid morality identity.

This pretty much sums it up. Read this, please, everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

Because it sucks. And people who are vaccinated are going out of their way to eat in Virginia because they don’t like the mandates. Lots of lost business and headaches for the restaurant owners.

We are vaccinated DC residents. Drove to Georgetown on Saturday for dinner. Since it was the first time eating indoors since Omicron, we forgot about the vax mandate and one of our guests didn't have proof of vaccination. Got in the car and drove to VA for dinner. I imagine we are not the only family that has done this.

When we were booking our ski vacation, there were two places we had to take off our list because they didn't allow snowboarders. Even though only one of the eight people in our group snowboards. This is a good analogy for vaccine mandates, especially if you have tourists coming from states with lower vaccination rates. All it takes is for one member of the group to no be vaccinated, and DC restaurants would lose the business of the entire group.

I knew the Mayor was going to drop the vaccine mandate before the tourism season kicked off with the cherry blossom festival, or risk losing all of that tourism money to Virginia and Maryland.

Great now they just have to fix Metro or else tourism season is going to be a huge mess, unrelated to Covid!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

Right, being required to share your vaccination status to patronize a business is unprecedented in American history. It's the first step towards something like China's social credit score. It needs to be nipped in the bud.

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I think some people are so blinded by polarizing gang warfare of team blue and team red, that they don't want to admit a lot of the lockdowns and requirements of the past two years were ineffectual. Biden was not able to end COVID, and that was a fantastical goal that didn't align with science. They can't bring themselves to realize that a lot of what Republicans pushed months ago is what democratic governors and politicians finally realized too : we can't let this virus define our lives forever. People have to make personal choices about their own risk tolerances and for vaccinated people the risks are comparable to the flu.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread -- a small but sadly misinformed group of people that think being vaccinated means you can't spread or catch covid. News flash: the vaccines can stop you landing in the hospital but are not that effective at preventing transmissions of the more virulent strains. You can still spread and catch covid while vaccinated.

Were people not paying attention during the Omicron wave? The vaccines, unfortunately, don't seem to prevent spread. How are people still not getting this? Pretty much everyone I know is vaccinated, and a lot of them ended up getting Omicron.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing they are keeping the mask mandates for schools because Omicron is still ripping through classrooms like wild fire. Our DC-based daycare was absolutely decimated for the past month. I imagine the same is happening in classrooms, particularly when so few kids are vaccinated.

Our kid was a close contact last week for the second time this year, but first time since being vaccinated/first time since omicron. He didn't get it (tested negative on rapid tests daily plus two PCRs in the last week). I suspect the masks helped!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

So then you're the reason that small businesses suffer - you wouldn't eat in a restaurant when there was a vaccine mandate that they were legally required to adhere to? This wasn't a choice made by individual restaurants - though now it will be - it was a decision made by the city.

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Anonymous wrote:In this thread -- a small but sadly misinformed group of people that think being vaccinated means you can't spread or catch covid. News flash: the vaccines can stop you landing in the hospital but are not that effective at preventing transmissions of the more virulent strains. You can still spread and catch covid while vaccinated.

Were people not paying attention during the Omicron wave? The vaccines, unfortunately, don't seem to prevent spread. How are people still not getting this? Pretty much everyone I know is vaccinated, and a lot of them ended up getting Omicron.

I think it is truly a religion for them now. To be fair, at first Fauci and the CDC were saying the vaccines basically prevented you from getting covid. There's not a lot of logic with this group though, it's about an identity.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

So then you're the reason that small businesses suffer - you wouldn't eat in a restaurant when there was a vaccine mandate that they were legally required to adhere to? This wasn't a choice made by individual restaurants - though now it will be - it was a decision made by the city.

DP. I feel bad for the restaurants, sure. But, I'm not going to patronize them if I find the jurisdiction's laws offensive.

Would you go to a restaurant in a city where the laws required a certain ethnic or racial group to sit only in the basement room and use separate restrooms?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

They didn't need to ask for proof you had a measles shot because they assumed that at some point, you went to school, which required you to be vaccinated against measles. And unlike covid, that shot confers pretty much lifelong immunity. If you had measles, though, I'd be pretty psyched if you weren't eating in the same restaurant I was in.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

Yeah, I don't get the complaint about it hurting restaurants. I know plenty of people who are MORE willing to dine indoors when there's a vax mandate, and it's not like checking the card is all that onerous. No vax mandate for restaurants means we'll probably stop eating indoors again, at least until we see how things shake out with the masking/vax mandates going away.

I love statements like this:

"Checking a card is not all that onerous." It's right up there with "masks are no big deal; no one minds wearing them."

PP, may I politely ask who the hell are you to make general assumptions like this, on behalf of other people, when you have no idea what you're talking about?

So explain how it's so hard. We went out to eat Saturday. The host looked at the photo of the card on our phone, and then led us to our table. It took less than a minute. How is that possibly hard?

So she looked at the photo of the card---did she check your ID to make sure you really are the person whose vaccine card you have a photo of?
How was she able to verify it really was you--if you are wearing a mask half of your face is hidden!

Or did you all step outside and pull down your masks so she could verify you are the person in your photo ID, and that the photo ID has the same name and birthdate as the vaccine card on your phone?

No one carries photo ID everywhere. /s