What happens if you ED and then back out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you even do it? Dc had ED app due, evaluated, accepted and a commitment was required before RD was even due at schools. How do you get guidance to cooperate with these schemes?

I was trying to figure this out too. How did the kid even apply RD?

It's entirely possible that the high school didn't submit transcripts after the ED was announced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The type of harm discussed in these posts is speculative. And you can always say you are analyzing the financial situation. My kid worked hard.

The kid made a choice to apply ED and sign documents to that effect. the rationalization here is gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.

Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?

+1

the parents and student signed a binding agreement. If the family really want to spend the money challenging it in court so a case that takes years to prosecute while the kid's admission is on hold - I mean if that is what they want, then go for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from TJ a few years ago. There was a kid in his class who got into a T20 ED. Didn’t withdraw other apps and then got into an Ivy. Long story short, the Ivy rescinded and the ED school rescinded and the kid had to take a gap year.

Why did they not ED to the ivy if that was the preferred school?

My understanding is that they though the Ivy didn’t have straight ED (they were REA mayb). and the kid thought it was too much of a long shot. And settled on the T20 as more realistic? I didn’t dig too deep on the whys. The “what happened next” was a peer ratting them out to the ED and Ivy. Scandal ensues.

You cannot apply REA or SCEA AND ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from TJ a few years ago. There was a kid in his class who got into a T20 ED. Didn’t withdraw other apps and then got into an Ivy. Long story short, the Ivy rescinded and the ED school rescinded and the kid had to take a gap year.

Why did they not ED to the ivy if that was the preferred school?

My understanding is that they though the Ivy didn’t have straight ED (they were REA mayb). and the kid thought it was too much of a long shot. And settled on the T20 as more realistic? I didn’t dig too deep on the whys. The “what happened next” was a peer ratting them out to the ED and Ivy. Scandal ensues.

How do they not commit to the ED choice before the ivy admittance comes out in late spring? Even if they somehow got guidance to participate in this nonsense,how does the timing work?

This whole thing sounds like BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

Not to be that crappy pile on poster but why would you expect any merit aid from an ED school?

+1

This is why we will not do ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.

Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?

+1

the parents and student signed a binding agreement. If the family really want to spend the money challenging it in court so a case that takes years to prosecute while the kid's admission is on hold - I mean if that is what they want, then go for it.

It’s not a legal agreement. No one has ever been sued for not going to a school where they were admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

You can get out of ED for financial reasons. If they don't offer you enough $$, you can say you can't afford it, and need to withdraw your ED. It happens. You'd have to prove it, possibly.

That’s about need based aid, not merit.

You can just say you can’t pay. They can’t force you to go and you won’t be sued. People back out for other reasons too (illness, mental health, etc).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

You can get out of ED for financial reasons. If they don't offer you enough $$, you can say you can't afford it, and need to withdraw your ED. It happens. You'd have to prove it, possibly.

That’s about need based aid, not merit.

You can just say you can’t pay. They can’t force you to go and you won’t be sued. People back out for other reasons too (illness, mental health, etc).

They can't force you to go, but if they disagree with you that you can't pay, they can inform all of their overlap colleges that they are not releasing you from the ED contract. Those other colleges will not allow you to matriculate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.

Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?

+1

the parents and student signed a binding agreement. If the family really want to spend the money challenging it in court so a case that takes years to prosecute while the kid's admission is on hold - I mean if that is what they want, then go for it.

It’s not a legal agreement. No one has ever been sued for not going to a school where they were admitted.

Seriously who are these people that think this is some sort of legal contract? Is is an agreement which many schools will let you out of simply for financial reasons. Their goal isn't to blackball students. Their goal is to fill their class so they move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from TJ a few years ago. There was a kid in his class who got into a T20 ED. Didn’t withdraw other apps and then got into an Ivy. Long story short, the Ivy rescinded and the ED school rescinded and the kid had to take a gap year.

Why did they not ED to the ivy if that was the preferred school?

My understanding is that they though the Ivy didn’t have straight ED (they were REA mayb). and the kid thought it was too much of a long shot. And settled on the T20 as more realistic? I didn’t dig too deep on the whys. The “what happened next” was a peer ratting them out to the ED and Ivy. Scandal ensues.

You cannot apply REA or SCEA AND ED.

Right. The kid in question played the odds and did ED to the T20 (he thought it was a better shot than REA or whatever the Ivy had) and RD to the Ivy. Kept the Ivy app in and was accepted RD.

[Anonymous]

Ivy RD is not released yet. What nonsense are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

RD results have not come out yet and won't until March. That said, they really need to pull the apps that are pending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from TJ a few years ago. There was a kid in his class who got into a T20 ED. Didn’t withdraw other apps and then got into an Ivy. Long story short, the Ivy rescinded and the ED school rescinded and the kid had to take a gap year.

Why did they not ED to the ivy if that was the preferred school?

My understanding is that they though the Ivy didn’t have straight ED (they were REA mayb). and the kid thought it was too much of a long shot. And settled on the T20 as more realistic? I didn’t dig too deep on the whys. The “what happened next” was a peer ratting them out to the ED and Ivy. Scandal ensues.

How do they not commit to the ED choice before the ivy admittance comes out in late spring? Even if they somehow got guidance to participate in this nonsense,how does the timing work?

This whole thing sounds like BS.

I think he did commit. Then tried to pull back the commitment and go to the Ivy. It didn’t work. The T20 withdrew his acceptance. And someone told the Ivy (the school or a peer, not sure) and they withdrew too.

My younger kid is at an FCPS base school. She was accepted to her ED school. But, the school says they are sending her 1st semester transcript to all the schools she applied to and requested transcripts for, even though she withdrew her other apps. It makes no sense to me. I emailed the transcript office to tell them it only needed to go to the ED school, so so they didn’t do unnecessary work. They said it’s set up to send transcripts everywhere. Maybe someone who works at the school can give us an explanation as to why.

I do know I sat with DD and her list of schools and watched her withdraw each app after she committed ED. But, Kenyon emailed me last week asking why we hadn’t submitted financial aid info— her app was still active. (I checked and she had email proof she had asked for the withdrawal so ??? So, emailed back asking that they withdraw it). I guess if a kid applied before the ED decision and they don’t withdraw and the transcript is sent, the app just continues on autopilot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

You can get out of ED for financial reasons. If they don't offer you enough $$, you can say you can't afford it, and need to withdraw your ED. It happens. You'd have to prove it, possibly.

That’s about need based aid, not merit.

You can just say you can’t pay. They can’t force you to go and you won’t be sued. People back out for other reasons too (illness, mental health, etc).

They can't force you to go, but if they disagree with you that you can't pay, they can inform all of their overlap colleges that they are not releasing you from the ED contract. Those other colleges will not allow you to matriculate.

And they certainly won’t accept you if your net price is the same as your ED school.