What happens if you ED and then back out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS got ED. We haven’t withdrawn any applications. We want to see what other schools he gets into. We do intend to promptly notify of declination if he gets offers.

According to a PP, the ED school expects you to withdraw your other applications as soon as you received their acceptance.
Failing to do so could jeopardize the ED acceptance and if your school refuses to send transcripts to the other schools your child could end up without any options. Perhaps I misunderstood something but it sounds like a big risk.

NP. What risk? The high schools send transcripts to all of the other applicant schools weeks/ months ago.

Oh my Lord. Colleges require FINAL transcripts that include the student’s entire high school career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS got ED. We haven’t withdrawn any applications. We want to see what other schools he gets into. We do intend to promptly notify of declination if he gets offers.

Then you are a donkey. Feeding your ego. Hedging your bets. It’s OK. Lots of people are donkeys…and you happen to be one of them. It is a sign of lack of honor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS got ED. We haven’t withdrawn any applications. We want to see what other schools he gets into. We do intend to promptly notify of declination if he gets offers.

According to a PP, the ED school expects you to withdraw your other applications as soon as you received their acceptance.
Failing to do so could jeopardize the ED acceptance and if your school refuses to send transcripts to the other schools your child could end up without any options. Perhaps I misunderstood something but it sounds like a big risk.

NP. What risk? The high schools send transcripts to all of the other applicant schools weeks/ months ago.

Right. I don’t understand why everyone doesn’t do this. We aren’t going to accept any offer.

It called being a jerk. You are taking a spot from somebody who want to go to that school and now maybe they will get waitlisted and eventually get in (base case). You also creating more work for AO. Bad Karma all around.

Yup…donkey. Rules for thee but not for me. No honor. I feel for the child, and others, who believes this to be perfectly fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is paying attention other than a few hall monitors on DCUM. He will go to ED. No one has explained why it makes any difference if he just sees whether he gets in and then immediately declines. He’s not going to any of these other schools - he’s not even interested in most of them (other than 1 which I’m sure he won’t get into). So calm down dcum. He’s not taking a spot. He’s simply competitive like everyone else.

There are limits to how many students from any one h.s. some colleges are willing to take in any given year, so he could be taking away the opportunity for one of his classmates to be offered a spot. Very selfish and unethical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.

Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?

Because the child, the parent, and the high school counselor all sign a legal contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is paying attention other than a few hall monitors on DCUM. He will go to ED. No one has explained why it makes any difference if he just sees whether he gets in and then immediately declines. He’s not going to any of these other schools - he’s not even interested in most of them (other than 1 which I’m sure he won’t get into). So calm down dcum. He’s not taking a spot. He’s simply competitive like everyone else.

NP. Are you not reading any of this thread closely? People above have explained this already. Here are two different posts you seem to have ignored:

Because schools only take so many students from each high school. If you were accepted to ED and then didn't pull your applications from other schools, someone else in your school will get denied (maybe waitlisted) because they give you an offer. I guess if you and your kid don't care about other kids in your high school, then this isn't a reason. For most of us, it is.

....Why take the risk at all if your kid is not going to accept any offer except the ED offer? Just so you or your kid can brag about acceptances? And for sure it's a risk - what happens when you ask the counselor to send midyear reports to RD apps? My kid got in ED and no matter how curious we were about the outcomes elsewhere, I can't believe anyone would be so stupid or so selfish to push their luck like this.

So, PP above who thinks "he's not taking a spot" if your son sits back and waits to hear from every place to which he applied, after he's already got an ED acceptance in hand: He is, indeed, potentially taking a spot, because colleges only take so many students from each high school. How are you not aware of this fact? I'ts not just DCUM "hall monitors" saying this; ask the high school counselor, FFS.

And if you are aware of all this, why do you think your son is so special he should possibly sink another student's chances just because he wants bragging rights -- even if only in his own head -- to be able to say he got into other colleges? Was his ED not sufficiently "competitive" as an admission for you and for him? Will it matter to him or anyone in a few years whether he did or didn't get into others on his list? It won't matter then. It actually won't matter even by the end of this school year.

You're also teaching your son that a commitment, made in writing, doesn't really apply to him. He made that commitment by applying ED. So you want him to have the possible ED boost but also want him to rack up other acceptances entirely to see how "competitive" he was at all those other schools. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

You can get out of ED for financial reasons. If they don't offer you enough $$, you can say you can't afford it, and need to withdraw your ED. It happens. You'd have to prove it, possibly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.

Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?

Because the child, the parent, and the high school counselor all sign a legal contract.

It’s not a legal contract.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/18/your-money/paying-for-college/early-decision-binding-nyu.amp.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m still not seeing how it hurts anyone if you still go to the ED school.

It's just a generally dishonest thing to do. If you have no intention of going to the school, why apply and take the potential spot from someone else?

+1. You promise that if you. Are. Admitted, you will stop the application process with any other college. I see a problem with teaching my kid to not honor their promises. But you teach your kid to be a liar and a sneak.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m still not seeing how it hurts anyone if you still go to the ED school.

YOU ARE TAKING UP SPOTS AT OTHER SCHOOL AND FORCING YOUR HIGH SCHOOL INTO A REALLY CRAPPY SITUATION.

Don’t bother with PP. They have the same selfish, only I matter mentality that leads people to not vaxx, not mask screw you, me me me me me. Some people just can’t be trusted to be members of a community. Or society. I know. I know. That this type of malignant narcism is a mental illness and people allegedly can’t can’t help it and you should judge those with this type of personality disorder. . But, you think they’d at least pretend, so. Their kids don’t grow up to be a$$holes too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

You can get out of ED for financial reasons. If they don't offer you enough $$, you can say you can't afford it, and need to withdraw your ED. It happens. You'd have to prove it, possibly.

And if an Ivy offered you the same financial deal, you couldn’t say theED school was unaffordable, then pay the money for a different school.

Plus, you are expected to tell the ED school as soon as you get the financial offer that it’s a problem. Not wait until May and say…. By the way …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is paying attention other than a few hall monitors on DCUM. He will go to ED. No one has explained why it makes any difference if he just sees whether he gets in and then immediately declines. He’s not going to any of these other schools - he’s not even interested in most of them (other than 1 which I’m sure he won’t get into). So calm down dcum. He’s not taking a spot. He’s simply competitive like everyone else.

Tell your kid to take his huge ego and stuff it. I really hope karma bites him in the a$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/18/your-money/paying-for-college/early-decision-binding-nyu.amp.html

This says ED is not a legal contract and the NYT forced NYU to retract a blog post saying it was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.

You can get out of ED for financial reasons. If they don't offer you enough $$, you can say you can't afford it, and need to withdraw your ED. It happens. You'd have to prove it, possibly.

That’s about need based aid, not merit.