The pope calls child-free people/parents of only children 'selfish'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

No they are more likely to be roped into giving to their church which is very different than giving to charity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Marriage is for the procreation of life in Catholic Church

No it isn’t. People who are barren marry in the church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least condemnation of this pope is now coming from the Left too. We conservatives have long viewed this pope as a fraud, a woke activist masquerading as a religious leader.

Actually, at least condemnation of a pope is coming from the right now and they finally realize popes are fallible and you don’t have to follow the pope, you only have to follow Jesus.


All the rules popes make up are BS.

Vatican 2, BS.
Priests not marrying, BS.
Abortion bring murder, BS.

[Anonymous]

Out of all the things the Catholic church has said and done....this is what upsets you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least condemnation of this pope is now coming from the Left too. We conservatives have long viewed this pope as a fraud, a woke activist masquerading as a religious leader.

Actually, at least condemnation of a pope is coming from the right now and they finally realize popes are fallible and you don’t have to follow the pope, you only have to follow Jesus.


All the rules popes make up are BS.

Vatican 2, BS.
Priests not marrying, BS.
Abortion bring murder, BS.

Popes are only infallible WHEN THEY SPEAK EX CATHEDRA.

This is basic stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He’s got a point on the pet thing. People do spend enormous time and energy on pets, and seem to be getting more and more attached. Not that it’s a zero-sum game, but some of that energy could be spent on helping the poor, tutoring kids, etc. I also think it’s nuts that we slaughter millions of cows, chickens, and pigs annually to feed pets.

Agree. The amount of money and energy spent on health care for pets when x number of children don't have any childcare? Shows out priorities as a society are out of whack.

So people should donate all their disposable income to people who have children? That's what you're saying.

That’s exactly what they’re saying. I wasn’t aware I signed a contract as a American citizen to turn over my paycheck to strangers who are parents. If you can’t afford healthcare or aren’t qualified for a job which provides it, Medicaid exists.

Well, you’re going to need those kids when they become adults and you can’t wipe your a$$.

[Anonymous]

He just seems like a dumb man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least condemnation of this pope is now coming from the Left too. We conservatives have long viewed this pope as a fraud, a woke activist masquerading as a religious leader.

Actually, at least condemnation of a pope is coming from the right now and they finally realize popes are fallible and you don’t have to follow the pope, you only have to follow Jesus.


All the rules popes make up are BS.

Vatican 2, BS.
Priests not marrying, BS.
Abortion bring murder, BS.

Popes are only infallible WHEN THEY SPEAK EX CATHEDRA.

This is basic stuff.

The alt right don’t think so when it’s popes other than Francis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least condemnation of this pope is now coming from the Left too. We conservatives have long viewed this pope as a fraud, a woke activist masquerading as a religious leader.

Actually, at least condemnation of a pope is coming from the right now and they finally realize popes are fallible and you don’t have to follow the pope, you only have to follow Jesus.


All the rules popes make up are BS.

Vatican 2, BS.
Priests not marrying, BS.
Abortion bring murder, BS.

Popes are only infallible WHEN THEY SPEAK EX CATHEDRA.

This is basic stuff.

The alt right don’t think so when it’s popes other than Francis.

Examples?

[Anonymous]

So don’t join the Catholic Church if you don’t agree with this. I’m not Catholic, but I wouldn’t waste days obsessing about SOMEBODY ELSE’s religion on a mom’s website.

This is easy, folks.

[Anonymous]

I think the Pope would change his mind if he spent more time with entitled parents and their offspring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the Pope would change his mind if he spent more time with entitled parents and their offspring.

I think the Pope would change his mind if he were not a misogynistic, archaic hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Pope says a lot of things. A lot of what he says is good, and helpful, and needing to be said. No one here is going to give him credit for that. Instead, they will seize upon, misinterpret, twist to the extreme, and use out of context things that he says that, on a surface level, are disagreeable -- because they are predisposed against him and against the Catholic religion.

I strongly suspect that if one were to actually talk with him, he would agree that, under the many circumstances described here by all of these faux outraged posters, it's not "selfish" not to have kids. No one here would be interested in doing that, however. That's not your way.

I don't understand why a leader of a religion would say mean things about people and then expect people to ask probing questions so he can give nuance and walk what he said back.

He should be more worried about those invalid baptisms. And he needs to let priests marry so they can abuse their own children and not go after ours. Yep, I say this all as a catholic!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those are bold words coming from a virgin.

Um, how do you know? Most priests are not virgins, they were not born priests LOL. There was a priest at my parish that one of my husband's friends went to college with, he was a rugby player and a typical frat bro. Now he is a priest.

I once had a priest tell me about his sequel exploits before being a priest. He was so creepy! He said he didn't get married because the girls he ended up with weren't the type you bring home! It would have been hilarious but I was in the middle of pastoral counseling for the death of my marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

No they are more likely to be roped into giving to their church which is very different than giving to charity

Of course they are. Religions like Latter Day Saints and Scientology require tithing and evangelical service. So do other sects. The problem is what happens to the money. https://www.agfinancial.org/resources/article/stealing-gods-money-church-fraud-exposed