The pope calls child-free people/parents of only children 'selfish'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s got a point on the pet thing. People do spend enormous time and energy on pets, and seem to be getting more and more attached. Not that it’s a zero-sum game, but some of that energy could be spent on helping the poor, tutoring kids, etc. I also think it’s nuts that we slaughter millions of cows, chickens, and pigs annually to feed pets.

Agree. The amount of money and energy spent on health care for pets when x number of children don't have any childcare? Shows out priorities as a society are out of whack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s got a point on the pet thing. People do spend enormous time and energy on pets, and seem to be getting more and more attached. Not that it’s a zero-sum game, but some of that energy could be spent on helping the poor, tutoring kids, etc. I also think it’s nuts that we slaughter millions of cows, chickens, and pigs annually to feed pets.

Agree. The amount of money and energy spent on health care for pets when x number of children don't have any childcare? Shows out priorities as a society are out of whack.

So people should donate all their disposable income to people who have children? That's what you're saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s got a point on the pet thing. People do spend enormous time and energy on pets, and seem to be getting more and more attached. Not that it’s a zero-sum game, but some of that energy could be spent on helping the poor, tutoring kids, etc. I also think it’s nuts that we slaughter millions of cows, chickens, and pigs annually to feed pets.

Agree. The amount of money and energy spent on health care for pets when x number of children don't have any childcare? Shows out priorities as a society are out of whack.

So people should donate all their disposable income to people who have children? That's what you're saying.

That’s exactly what they’re saying. I wasn’t aware I signed a contract as a American citizen to turn over my paycheck to strangers who are parents. If you can’t afford healthcare or aren’t qualified for a job which provides it, Medicaid exists.

[Anonymous]

As for childcare - that’s your problem for 2-3 years of your child’s life. Otherwise school (and childcare) is provided for free for 15-16 years. I think that’s more than generous.

[Anonymous]

Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

[Anonymous]

Marriage is for the procreation of life in Catholic Church

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Marriage is for the procreation of life in Catholic Church

Marriage is also legal protection for each spouse and any children of the marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

Yes, people who attend church give more to “charity” but it’s because they attend a church that requires tithing and the “charity” is their own church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those are bold words coming from a virgin.

Um, how do you know? Most priests are not virgins, they were not born priests LOL. There was a priest at my parish that one of my husband's friends went to college with, he was a rugby player and a typical frat bro. Now he is a priest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

Yes, people who attend church give more to “charity” but it’s because they attend a church that requires tithing and the “charity” is their own church.

that’s your opinion. where’s the evidence to back up your opinion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

Yes, people who attend church give more to “charity” but it’s because they attend a church that requires tithing and the “charity” is their own church.

“In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)”

You are wrong. see graph 11 at link

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

Yes, people who attend church give more to “charity” but it’s because they attend a church that requires tithing and the “charity” is their own church.

“In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)”

You are wrong. see graph 11 at link

What are these “secular causes”? I wouldn’t call an anti-choice lobbying outfit a “secular charity”, nor would I call a crisis pregnancy center that lies to women in order to carry their babies to term to be a “secular cause”. Many religious give first to their church and then to the pseudo political causes trying to codify their church’s beliefs into law. They’re not donating to a diaper bank that gives with no strings attached, or a secular food bank.

[Anonymous]

At least condemnation of this pope is now coming from the Left too. We conservatives have long viewed this pope as a fraud, a woke activist masquerading as a religious leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s got a point on the pet thing. People do spend enormous time and energy on pets, and seem to be getting more and more attached. Not that it’s a zero-sum game, but some of that energy could be spent on helping the poor, tutoring kids, etc. I also think it’s nuts that we slaughter millions of cows, chickens, and pigs annually to feed pets.

Agree. The amount of money and energy spent on health care for pets when x number of children don't have any childcare? Shows out priorities as a society are out of whack.

So people should donate all their disposable income to people who have children? That's what you're saying.

That’s exactly what they’re saying. I wasn’t aware I signed a contract as a American citizen to turn over my paycheck to strangers who are parents. If you can’t afford healthcare or aren’t qualified for a job which provides it, Medicaid exists.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Philanthropic studies show that people with a religious affiliation give away several times as much every year as other Americans. Research by the Lilly School at Indiana University found Americans with any religious affiliation made average annual charitable donations of $1,590, versus $695 for those with no religious affiliation. Another report using data from the Panel Study for Income Dynamics juxtaposed Americans who do not attend religious services with those who attend worship at least twice a month, and made fine-tunings to compare demographic apples to apples. The results: $2,935 of annual charitable giving for the church attenders, versus $704 for the non-attenders. (See graph 10) In addition to giving larger amounts, the religious give more often—making gifts about half again as frequently.

In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)

These giving levels vary by particular faith. Mormons are the most generous Americans, both by participation level and by size of gifts. Evangelical Christians are next. Then come mainline Protestants. Catholics lag both. Jews give high dollar amounts on average, because they have high earnings, while trailing Protestant givers in donations as a share of income. (See “Who Gives Most to Charity?” in the Almanac of American Philanthropy.)

https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/philanthropy-magazine/less-god-less-giving

Religious people are more giving to charity.

Yes, people who attend church give more to “charity” but it’s because they attend a church that requires tithing and the “charity” is their own church.

“In study after study, religious practice is the behavioral variable with the strongest and most consistent association with generous giving. And people with religious motivations don’t give just to faith-based causes—they are also much likelier to give to secular causes than the nonreligious. Two thirds of people who worship at least twice a month give to secular causes, compared to less than half of non-attenders, and the average secular gift by a church attender is 20 percent bigger. (See graph 11)”

You are wrong. see graph 11 at link

What are these “secular causes”? I wouldn’t call an anti-choice lobbying outfit a “secular charity”, nor would I call a crisis pregnancy center that lies to women in order to carry their babies to term to be a “secular cause”. Many religious give first to their church and then to the pseudo political causes trying to codify their church’s beliefs into law. They’re not donating to a diaper bank that gives with no strings attached, or a secular food bank.

This exactly.