Conservative Colleges

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Anonymous wrote:The heading on this might be a bit misleading — there are colleges that are “conservative” (e.g., Liberty) and then there are colleges that aren’t “conservative” per se but are more more tolerant of a diversity of views. Unfortuntely,it’s a pretty short list.

The University of Chicago
The rest are mostly in the South — e.g., SMU, many Southern flagships

I also heard that Uchicago is more tolerant than other top universities but not sure what that is based on

They emphasize respect for the free speech and teach their students to not reflexively scream "harm!" if they hear a viewpoint they might disagree with. The administration appears to have some spine, compared to many other schools.

https://freeexpression.uchicago.edu/

In 2014, President Robert J. Zimmer and Provost Eric Isaacs appointed a committee of University faculty to articulate “the University’s overarching commitment to free, robust, and uninhibited debate.” The resulting “Chicago Principles” have since been adopted by universities and colleges across the country.

https://provost.uchicago.edu/sites/default/files/documents/reports/FOECommitteeReport.pdf

In a word, the University’s fundamental commitment is to the principle that debate or deliberation may not be suppressed because the ideas put forth are thought by some or even by most members of the University community to be offensive, unwise, immoral, or wrong-headed. It is for the individual members of the University community, not for the University as an institution, to make those judgments for themselves, and to act on those judgments not by seeking to suppress speech, but by openly and vigorously contesting the ideas that they oppose. Indeed, fostering the ability of members of the University community to engage in such debate and deliberation in an effective and responsible manner is an essential part of the University’s educational mission.

As a corollary to the University’s commitment to protect and promote free expression, members of the University community must also act in conformity with the principle of free expression. Although members of the University community are free to criticize and contest the views expressed on campus, and to criticize and contest speakers who are invited to express their views on campus, they may not obstruct or otherwise interfere with the freedom of others to express views they reject or even loathe. To this end, the University has a solemn responsibility not only to promote a lively and fearless freedom of debate and deliberation, but also to protect that freedom when others attempt to restrict it.

As Robert M. Hutchins observed, without a vibrant commitment to free and open inquiry, a university ceases to be a university. The University of Chicago’s long-standing commitment to this principle lies at the very core of our University’s greatness. That is our inheritance, and it is our promise to the future.

DP. I love this. Good for them.

The list of schools that have adopted some version of the “Chicago Statement” is not a bad place to start. I just did a quick review, but it seems to be a good list of colleges that haven’t gone around the bend.

https://www.thefire.org/chicago-statement-university-and-faculty-body-support/

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Though I was very surprised to see Smith College on that list. Haven't they acquiesced to nutty protesters several times in recent years?

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

And you actually think all high school kids are freely sharing their political beliefs with you?

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

Maybe because they are afraid you will judge. My conservative (not Trumper) DD went to UVA and majored in Politics, Philosophy and the Law. She’s now reading History at Oxford for a DPhil

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There are plenty of conservative high schoolers and college students.

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Anonymous wrote:Wheaton in Illinois

I went there and 20 years later from what I can tell my classmates are pretty evenlly distributed politically liberal/moderate/conservative or even up to 50% liberal. My own friend group (now as 40+ year olds) is super liberal.
Wheaton sends a ton of students on to get PhDs (it's always ranked very high on this among American colleges) and I don't think you can spend that many years in academia without at least trending moderate.
The college itself has remained apolitical in recent times, even with the heavy politicalization of the christian church in America (to the right).

My conservative friends (I have many connections from childhood) all send their kids to Liberty or Grove City. Wheaton is viewed as way too liberal by many of them.

Yes. Grad of another Christian college here.
Some go to Christian college for theology classes or Christian community, but not necessarily for conservative views. There's also a Christian left (most of my friends) at many Christian colleges. Far right are the likes of Liberty, ORU, Bob Jones -- very different from the likes of Wheaton, Messiah, Eastern etc. Still a politically conservative outlook would find some company on these campuses.

I would advise whatever school has great programs. Schools need a variety of student perspectives!

FWIW, my kid of faith (though not poliitically conservative) is looking primarily at Wheaton, Ivies, and NE LACs.

I would say at least half of the conservative kids I know attend Liberty - even if they graduated from public school. My impression is it's generous with aid.

Yes - my conservative friends of faith also send their kids to Pensacola, a number of Bible colleges (Lancaster, Moody, etc), Thomas Aquinas

My Christian moderate friends are also at Wheaton, Messiah, Eastern Mennonite, Baylor

Other schools I've heard they are fond of (but I don't know well enough): Calvin College, Hope College, Dallas, Cedarville,

Conservative schools without a religious affiliation: Utah State, Clemson, any of the military colleges, Pepperdine, SMU, Washington and Jefferon, Washington and Lee, North Georgia, Univ of South Carolina

A lot of conservatives I know attend state schools and regional publics in their Red states: places like Florida Atlantic, Univ of Missouri, Univ of Montana

Liberty is cheap. Sticker price is around $30K and that's before any aid or scholarships. It's scooped up almost all of the children of christian conservatives, even those who 10 years ago would not have considered it.

Links for the bolded claims? We'll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Washington and Lee
University of Richmond
Liberty University
Auburn
Wake Forest
Elon

I would only agree with Liberty, Auburn, and maybe Richmond.

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Wake Forest and Elon both clearly lean liberal

Not really. I know plenty of alums and current students from conservative families.

And, fwiw, all my relatives in NC (our family tree goes back pre-civil war) think Elon is a conservative school for rich kids.

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

And you actually think all high school kids are freely sharing their political beliefs with you?

Yes, I know they are. Are you a high school teacher?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

Maybe because they are afraid you will judge. My conservative (not Trumper) DD went to UVA and majored in Politics, Philosophy and the Law. She’s now reading History at Oxford for a DPhil

No. I always take the conservative view in a discussion and they jump all over me. I have yet to meet one conservative high school student.

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

Maybe because they are afraid you will judge. My conservative (not Trumper) DD went to UVA and majored in Politics, Philosophy and the Law. She’s now reading History at Oxford for a DPhil

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There are plenty of conservative high schoolers and college students.

How do you quantify “plenty”? What percentage?

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

Maybe because they are afraid you will judge. My conservative (not Trumper) DD went to UVA and majored in Politics, Philosophy and the Law. She’s now reading History at Oxford for a DPhil

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There are plenty of conservative high schoolers and college students.

That's a small world to provide so much identifying info.

[Anonymous]

Another vote for both SMU and Clemson. Kids at both schools - both schools trend conservative.

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

And you actually think all high school kids are freely sharing their political beliefs with you?

Yes, I know they are. Are you a high school teacher?

Oh, wow... you are so deluded.

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Anonymous wrote:Wash & lee
BC
Notre Dame
Wake
Davidson
UVA
UNC

Nope.

These colleges talk liberal to get by but basically conservative. Look at the professions grads choose.

The vast majority of students at these types of schools are conservative or not so interested in politics.

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Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

And you actually think all high school kids are freely sharing their political beliefs with you?

Yes, I know they are. Are you a high school teacher?

Oh, wow... you are so deluded.

Again, are you a high school teacher?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

And you actually think all high school kids are freely sharing their political beliefs with you?

Yes, I know they are. Are you a high school teacher?

Oh, wow... you are so deluded.

Again, are you a high school teacher?

DP. Just curious why do you think kids in your class freely share their beliefs. When you teach the class do you present alternative view points including those that are not PC? Do you question liberal ideas from the conservatives view point?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:where do politically conservative leaning DMV kids apply to college?

Small red state colleges would be my guess. I actually don’t know any politically conservative kids!

You may want to step out of your bubble at some point.
DP

DP here. I’m a high school history teacher and do not know any conservative high school kids either.

And you actually think all high school kids are freely sharing their political beliefs with you?

Yes, I know they are. Are you a high school teacher?

Oh, wow... you are so deluded.

Again, are you a high school teacher?

DP. Just curious why do you think kids in your class freely share their beliefs. When you teach the class do you present alternative view points including those that are not PC? Do you question liberal ideas from the conservatives view point?

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No doubt the PP is obviously liberal, so liberal students feel comfortable sharing their politics with her. It's a given that there are conservative kids *everywhere* and none of them would dare challenge a liberal teacher (or liberal students). They simply stay quiet or pretend to agree.