Big 3 College Placement, Class of 2022

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane is #42 on USNWR

Do you memorize the rankings list and proceed accordingly? Seriously, you have to know that schools from about #25-#50 are all about the same academically and prestige wise.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am dating myself, but I figured a national qualification meant something like the Scripps Spelling Bee champion or the Regeneron Science Talent finalist/winner. Some kind of national academic competition.

Those give an unfair advantage so just like SAT, ACT or the APs they are ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Yep. I’ll go further. It should be random. It’s already close to arbitrary. Basically, almost any system for college admissions would be better than the one currently in place.

No, it shouldn't be random. The schools have clubs and programs and majors and schools. they cannot just roll out ping pong balls and hope they have enough people to fill out the different intended majors, have kids to run outdoor clubs or robotics or solar competitions, or musical theater.

Random would be a horrible idea.

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do we know how many ivy acceptances were NOT legacy students?

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of kids at Big 3 apply ED somewhere?

Most. They are strongly encouraged to do so. I don't know of any of DC's friends who did not.

What about the 25% of the class which in on aid? Do they ED?

Yes, if you are hoping for FA then it’s best to apply ED because it’s the 1st round where Universities have as a goal to get firm numbers on the following:

- how many full pay legacies are willing to commit ED
- how many FA needing students are on their short list due to Athlete , URM, etc …

The answer to the first determines what can be given to the latter, but best that they know about your FA need as the cash is rolling in from the full pay legacies who will commit ED

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It’s just that this year is more of a typical year whereas class of ‘ 21 has it doubly hard as there were half as many spots available at the most selective schools due to class of ‘ 20 who deferred for a year due to covid

For example, Princeton’s Freshman class this year consists of 3 of the top 5-10 percent students from BOTH 2020 grade and 2021 grade.

So, in 4 years it will be doubly competitive again for Grad school, law school, job market

Good for employers though cause class of ‘ 25 is a monster class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Why? We have had several generations go to the same Ivy, and the institution is a big part of our families' lives and traditions, not just a place to go to college. Colleges value and benefit from that type of connection and institutional history. Why should they eliminate it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Why? We have had several generations go to the same Ivy, and the institution is a big part of our families' lives and traditions, not just a place to go to college. Colleges value and benefit from that type of connection and institutional history. Why should they eliminate it?

Are you serious with this post? It would be funny if it was not utterly clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Why? We have had several generations go to the same Ivy, and the institution is a big part of our families' lives and traditions, not just a place to go to college. Colleges value and benefit from that type of connection and institutional history. Why should they eliminate it?

Are you serious with this post? It would be funny if it was not utterly clueless.

That's not an answer. I think you are the one who is clueless. You most likely misunderstand the mission of America's elite universities. But feel free to educate me about why tradition is not important to these universities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Why? We have had several generations go to the same Ivy, and the institution is a big part of our families' lives and traditions, not just a place to go to college. Colleges value and benefit from that type of connection and institutional history. Why should they eliminate it?

Are you serious with this post? It would be funny if it was not utterly clueless.

She’s writing from her home in Star’s Hollow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Why? We have had several generations go to the same Ivy, and the institution is a big part of our families' lives and traditions, not just a place to go to college. Colleges value and benefit from that type of connection and institutional history. Why should they eliminate it?

Are you serious with this post? It would be funny if it was not utterly clueless.

That's not an answer. I think you are the one who is clueless. You most likely misunderstand the mission of America's elite universities. But feel free to educate me about why tradition is not important to these universities.

Not the PP, please educate me on the mission of America's elite universities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions should be eliminated.

And I am a Big 3 parent whose child would benefit from it. It just feels…icky.

Why? We have had several generations go to the same Ivy, and the institution is a big part of our families' lives and traditions, not just a place to go to college. Colleges value and benefit from that type of connection and institutional history. Why should they eliminate it?

Are you serious with this post? It would be funny if it was not utterly clueless.

That's not an answer. I think you are the one who is clueless. You most likely misunderstand the mission of America's elite universities. But feel free to educate me about why tradition is not important to these universities.

Not the PP, please educate me on the mission of America's elite universities.

I see what you did there. Please feel free to answer my question first.

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Anonymous wrote:There is indeed a stream of good news out of the private schools and to answer OP’s question, things seem a lot brighter than they did after ED/EA rounds last year.
NCS and STA having great results and congratulations to all the seniors at whatever school they are at. It has been a rough few years for that class of kids all over the US. A lot of work was put in by all these kids and I am thrilled that they are getting the outcomes they were hoping for.

Somebody is trying hard to spin this.

+1. This is not what I'm hearing at all from my DC at a Big 3. I would say results are mixed, at best.

Results are “mixed” at Big 3s for Ivy admissions every year. It’s definitionally linked to their sub-6% acceptance rates. I’m not sure what your point is?

Basic numbers tell the story. On average, every year a school like Sidwell or GDS sends a dozen kids each to an Ivy out of a class of about 125. By comparison, every year Whitman HS also sends about a dozen kids per year on average to Ivies out of a class of 600.

This has not changed in decades. There may be year to year fluctuations but this is essentially it.

What surprises me about all of this is that every year people still seem to not understand how few people actually get in to these schools and we get threads like this.

To repeat, to get into an Ivy from a Big 3 the kid needs to be top 10% in class and have a “hook”. From Whitman it’s top 2% with an incredible CV that would make Tracy Flick blush. That’s it.

14:52 here. Thank you for your smart analysis but I'm not talking about Ivys. Read PP's post again; she doesn't mention Ivy either. Only you seems to believe that factor is important.

I'm saying that normal kids at this Big 3, who are applying ED to normal schools (yes, there are kids who want to go to non-Ivy schools, in case that's news to you) are having mixed results, at best.

Love the anecdata. Unfortunately for you the data at the end of the year, every year, tells a different story.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just that this year is more of a typical year whereas class of ‘ 21 has it doubly hard as there were half as many spots available at the most selective schools due to class of ‘ 20 who deferred for a year due to covid

For example, Princeton’s Freshman class this year consists of 3 of the top 5-10 percent students from BOTH 2020 grade and 2021 grade.

So, in 4 years it will be doubly competitive again for Grad school, law school, job market

Good for employers though cause class of ‘ 25 is a monster class

Explain what you mean about class of 25

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just that this year is more of a typical year whereas class of ‘ 21 has it doubly hard as there were half as many spots available at the most selective schools due to class of ‘ 20 who deferred for a year due to covid

For example, Princeton’s Freshman class this year consists of 3 of the top 5-10 percent students from BOTH 2020 grade and 2021 grade.

So, in 4 years it will be doubly competitive again for Grad school, law school, job market

Good for employers though cause class of ‘ 25 is a monster class

Explain what you mean about class of 25

Huge birth year