Big 3 College Placement, Class of 2022

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I recall last year being riveted to the roller coaster story lines of Big 3 college placement. I think the ED round was a disaster causing much panic, ED 2 saw a promising uptick in admissions, and when all was said and done after RD and later wait list movement, the consensus was placement was better than ever. How is it going for the Class of 2022?

Not that it matters, of course. As we've made clear in the other thread, we don't send our children to the Big 3 for college placement. It's all about the education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

Your brain is truly in the wrong place. You have no idea what you are talking about to ask such a question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are so smug and tone deaf, it's remarkable.

Here is a suggestion: If you don't want to read smug and tone deaf posts stay away from anonymous message boards about private schools and Ivy league colleges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

Your brain is truly in the wrong place. You have no idea what you are talking about to ask such a question.

I would argue that being in the lower 75% of your class at a private school actually hurts your application. college admissions is mainly a numbers game and if your class standing is low you will be over looked. Funny how people think spending tons of money on private school gives them a leg up, but in reality it is the opposite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

So Carniege-Mellon is a low tier school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

So you think it would be easy to get into one of these schools being in the "bottom" of the class from a public school?

[Anonymous]

In case some of you might not be aware, there is currently a very active thread talking all about the upsides and downsides of attending a Big 3 school as related to college admissions. Here is a link to it: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1021700.page

It doesn't make much sense IMO for this thread to become a duplicate discussion, rather than using this thread to share, celebrate, and commiserate about results. The other discussion is valuable, but if people could please direct comments about that topic to that thread, rather than here, I think a lot of people would appreciate it. I know that I would. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

Your brain is truly in the wrong place. You have no idea what you are talking about to ask such a question.

I would argue that being in the lower 75% of your class at a private school actually hurts your application. college admissions is mainly a numbers game and if your class standing is low you will be over looked. Funny how people think spending tons of money on private school gives them a leg up, but in reality it is the opposite.

Not the point. I would not have chosen our public school for my kids if they were guaranteed Valedictorian. Class rank and "better chance at whatever school YOU think is worthy" has nothing to do with why we chose the school.

Also, these schools don't rank students anyway. Have you noticed in the common data sets where it list the percentage of kids at the top of the class? Well, just below it it lists the number of admitted students who gave a class rank -- its usually a small number. All those admitted private school kids did not have a class rank -- and for plenty of them, it would have been below the 25th, even with 1500+ SATs and years worth of college level courses. Rank doesn't matter in a small school of highly capable kids. For example, Harvard shows that 94% of Freshman were in the top 10% of their class; however, only 39% even had a class rank to submit -- and "almost 40%" of Freshman attended private schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

Your brain is truly in the wrong place. You have no idea what you are talking about to ask such a question.

I would argue that being in the lower 75% of your class at a private school actually hurts your application. college admissions is mainly a numbers game and if your class standing is low you will be over looked. Funny how people think spending tons of money on private school gives them a leg up, but in reality it is the opposite.

Frankly, I think this really depends on the school. DC just got admitted to a top 10 SLAC with a GPA in the 3.6ish range (UW as no APs offered at school), 34 ACT. DC is def not in the top 25% of his class, though perhaps close (no ranking so hard to know save the top 5 or so kids). When we began discussions with the college counselor, I was concerned that the reach/target section of the list seemed wildly unrealistic based on the GPA (and posts here). As I learned more about the school profile, I better understood that colleges see DC as someone who has already been successful in college style/level classes for the last two years (18 months). Most of college admissions is a crap shoot due to the numbers, so DC passed over two schools he really preferred for one DC felt offered the best chance in ED.

We didn't seek out a private education for college admissions, but came to understand that the school profile of pedagogy and rigor may be helpful when AOs have so many applications to consider.

GL to everyone!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

So you think it would be easy to get into one of these schools being in the "bottom" of the class from a public school?

Presumably the Bottom 75% of private kids would be top a 25% at public due to their stronger abilities. But since they are grouped with other like students at a private school they just don’t stand out thus worsen their college admission changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

So you think it would be easy to get into one of these schools being in the "bottom" of the class from a public school?

Presumably the Bottom 75% of private kids would be top a 25% at public due to their stronger abilities. But since they are grouped with other like students at a private school they just don’t stand out thus worsen their college admission changes.

Impossible to know, but interesting take.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other thread is talking about private, including the Big3 is waste of money and with no advantage to college admissions. Would be interesting to actually see the stats for the bottom 75% of class. I am sure to 25% are what people are touting here.

Nope. There are "bottom 75%" who applied to non-Ivy, first choice schools and are getting in ED. They may not be schools that some consider "elite" (I am referring to the long thread in the College forum here) but they are those students first choices. Schools like Carnegie, Case-Western, Pitzer, etc.

Okay, but was spending money at Big3 helping them get in at the low tier schools or would they still have gotten in coming from a public?

Seriously, GIVE IT A REST.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ED results at Sidwell so far are great. Tons of kids waiting to hear today from Brown and other very top schools.

+1

My senior was not admitted to their ED, but the stream of good news from their friends is really heartwarming.

+2. Mine either!

[Anonymous]

There is indeed a stream of good news out of the private schools and to answer OP’s question, things seem a lot brighter than they did after ED/EA rounds last year.
NCS and STA having great results and congratulations to all the seniors at whatever school they are at. It has been a rough few years for that class of kids all over the US. A lot of work was put in by all these kids and I am thrilled that they are getting the outcomes they were hoping for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is indeed a stream of good news out of the private schools and to answer OP’s question, things seem a lot brighter than they did after ED/EA rounds last year.
NCS and STA having great results and congratulations to all the seniors at whatever school they are at. It has been a rough few years for that class of kids all over the US. A lot of work was put in by all these kids and I am thrilled that they are getting the outcomes they were hoping for.

Somebody is trying hard to spin this.