How do you get into a top law school?

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

The low number of law students reflects the low number of STEM majors who apply to law school.

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

+1. Less than 3% of attorneys are patent attorneys, so maybe 8-10 STEM majors in a typical class of 200.

Agree (I'm the PP you're responding to, BTW), but would just add that not all STEM majors who attend law school go into patent law. STEM majors typically do pretty well in law school and can write their own ticket -- or at least that was the case among my classmates (including DH) and also true for our DS, a recent law grad.

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Anonymous wrote:Doing very well at a lower ranked undergrad helps you more than doing just okay at a top undergrad. Law schools care about your numbers most of all, so if everything else was equal a 4.0 at NC state, or whatever, is going to get you admitted to Yale Law over a 3.5 at Princeton UG. Being an underrepresented minority also helps a lot. Everything else like activities and awards counts only at the margins.

I disagree with this, the T30 colleges had multiple students in my T5 law school class while lower ranked schools did not have more than one. It’s always possible for a super strong kid from a lower ranked school to get in, but it’s an easier route from a top ranked undergraduate school.

Yes but the students from those top undergrads had top grades as well, or maybe several years of work experience somewhere impressive (many of my law school classmates had worked at banks or consulting companies).

The point is that a 3.2 from Stanford is still not getting you into Yale Law unless you have both a very high LSAT (178+) AND another super high value trait, like being a speechwriter for a Senator or something. It takes a lot for schools to accept a low GPA or LSAT because if they do it too often it really drags down their numbers and that hurts rankings, which are considered really important for law schools.

A top law school sont accept a bunch of students from top undergrads with inferior numbers because they don’t need to and it will hurt them in the long run.

I think it depends on the law school, even at the T5 level. You're not going to find very many 1Ls at Yale Law who didn't attend a highly ranked undergrad, and you might find a few more at Stanford, but you'll find plenty of 1Ls from so-so undergrads at Harvard. Harvard is a much bigger school than Yale and Stanford and has to cast a wider net to fill its classes.

BWAHAHAHAH! Harvard has to cast a wide net? Since when? The AVERAGE GPA is a 3.92 and the AVERAGE LSAT is a 74 in the most recent incoming class at Harvard. What so-so schools send students to HLS? Everyone there was a valedictorian, a salutatorian, a Rhodes Scholars, etc. or a sterling Harvard undergrad who spent time at Oxbridge. Yale Law does not have 19 Fulbright Scholars, five Schwarzman Scholars, four QuestBridge Scholars, three Posse Scholars, two Truman Scholars, one Marshall Scholar, two Rhodes Scholars, and two Gates Millennium Scholars, among many other awards and honors. Read about the newest class here: https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-j-d-class-is-most-academically-accomplished-diverse-in-school-history/.

Did you see the part in your link where Harvard notes that the incoming class has students from 171 undergraduate schools? That's a lot of schools, 100 more than Yale's entering class. I never said the students weren't all highly qualified; I simply said the school typically enrolled from a wider ranger of undergraduate schools because the entering classes are so big.

Obviously you aren't Harvard quality when it comes to reading comprehension.

No, you didn't. You said "Harvard is a much bigger school . . . and has to cast a wider net to fill its classes" which has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on DCUM.

I stand by my statement. And you are a child.

Says the troll who claims Harvard has to "cast a wider net to fill its classes". Like Harvard has to do anything to fill its classes:
"Harvard Law School received a total of 9,993 applications, up 33% over the 7,505 applications received a year earlier. The school admitted 685 candidates to get to its enrolled incoming class of 560 students for an acceptance rate of 6.9%, well below the 12.9% admit rate last year."

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Anonymous wrote:Doing very well at a lower ranked undergrad helps you more than doing just okay at a top undergrad. Law schools care about your numbers most of all, so if everything else was equal a 4.0 at NC state, or whatever, is going to get you admitted to Yale Law over a 3.5 at Princeton UG. Being an underrepresented minority also helps a lot. Everything else like activities and awards counts only at the margins.

I disagree with this, the T30 colleges had multiple students in my T5 law school class while lower ranked schools did not have more than one. It’s always possible for a super strong kid from a lower ranked school to get in, but it’s an easier route from a top ranked undergraduate school.

Yes but the students from those top undergrads had top grades as well, or maybe several years of work experience somewhere impressive (many of my law school classmates had worked at banks or consulting companies).

The point is that a 3.2 from Stanford is still not getting you into Yale Law unless you have both a very high LSAT (178+) AND another super high value trait, like being a speechwriter for a Senator or something. It takes a lot for schools to accept a low GPA or LSAT because if they do it too often it really drags down their numbers and that hurts rankings, which are considered really important for law schools.

A top law school sont accept a bunch of students from top undergrads with inferior numbers because they don’t need to and it will hurt them in the long run.

I think it depends on the law school, even at the T5 level. You're not going to find very many 1Ls at Yale Law who didn't attend a highly ranked undergrad, and you might find a few more at Stanford, but you'll find plenty of 1Ls from so-so undergrads at Harvard. Harvard is a much bigger school than Yale and Stanford and has to cast a wider net to fill its classes.

BWAHAHAHAH! Harvard has to cast a wide net? Since when? The AVERAGE GPA is a 3.92 and the AVERAGE LSAT is a 74 in the most recent incoming class at Harvard. What so-so schools send students to HLS? Everyone there was a valedictorian, a salutatorian, a Rhodes Scholars, etc. or a sterling Harvard undergrad who spent time at Oxbridge. Yale Law does not have 19 Fulbright Scholars, five Schwarzman Scholars, four QuestBridge Scholars, three Posse Scholars, two Truman Scholars, one Marshall Scholar, two Rhodes Scholars, and two Gates Millennium Scholars, among many other awards and honors. Read about the newest class here: https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-j-d-class-is-most-academically-accomplished-diverse-in-school-history/.

Did you see the part in your link where Harvard notes that the incoming class has students from [b]171 undergraduate schools? That's a lot of schools, 100 more than Yale's entering class. I never said the students weren't all highly qualified; I simply said the school typically enrolled from a wider ranger of undergraduate schools because the entering classes are so big.

Obviously you aren't Harvard quality when it comes to reading comprehension.

I know ONE HLS grad worth it and he was a Sears Prize winner. Most overrated school of all time. Yale produces much better lawyers but most of them don’t really want to practice law. As an aside, the 3 best lawyers I have ever worked around/with or worked for me went to Georgetown, EB Williams being one of them.

Almost half of Yale Law School graduates get prized federal judicial clerkships! You go to Yale if you have aspirations serve on the federal bench, work in the Cabinet or to become President.

No, only 28.4% https://law.yale.edu/student-life/career-development/employment-data/judicial-clerkship-employment. Harvard has 265 per year. https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/ocs/judicial-clerkships-from-hls/#hlsnav-recent-numbers. That would be more than half the graduating class. https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/ocs/judicial-clerkships-from-hls/#hlsnav-recent-numbers

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

No STEM focused undergrads are not interested in law school.

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

No STEM focused undergrads are not interested in law school.

Recent-ish top law school grad. First answer above is correct; there were about a dozen bona fide STEM grads in my class of just under 200. Off the top of my head, only one or two of them ended up in hard IP practices. The two most common paths for that bunch seem to be high-end clerkship and litigation or tech-adjacent transactional practices.

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

No STEM focused undergrads are not interested in law school.

Liberal arts focused undergraduate degrees are common in top law schools. Business and Stem focused degrees are not common and outside of IP-focused practices often less valued.

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

No STEM focused undergrads are not interested in law school.

Liberal arts focused undergraduate degrees are common in top law schools. Business and Stem focused degrees are not common and outside of IP-focused practices often less valued.

STEM focused undergraduates are common in top medical schools.
The rest of the STEM undergraduates dwarfs the rest of the lberal arts failures
LMFAO

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We are back to the tired "feeder" argument, I see. Dear teenagers, please understand that T14 law school admission is a numbers game, college GPA and LSAT. "Feeders" are not a thing, no matter how much you would like to believe that.

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I would actually add GPA matters so sometimes you have a better shot with a perfect GPA and honors/PBK from a lower ranked school. You also get great rec letters that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Got to one of these 30 schools
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Cornell University
3 Harvard University
4 Yale University
5 University of Michigan
6 University of Pennsylvania
7 University of California, Los Angeles
8 Columbia University
9 Georgetown University
10 University of Chicago
10 Duke University
12 Princeton University
13 University of Virginia
14 New York University
15 Stanford University
16 Northwestern University
17 University of Southern California
18 Washington University in St. Louis
19 University of Florida School of Law
20 Brown University
21 University of Texas at Austin
22 Vanderbilt University
23 University of Maryland, College Park
24 Emory University
24 University of Notre Dame
24 Boston College 70
27 Dartmouth College
27 George Washington University
29 University of California, San Diego
29 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Law schools are largely driven by LSAT and GPA (used by USNWR rankings), so I'd argue undergraduate schools don't make that much difference.

If you are going to factor undergraduate schools, the list adjusted for size of student body would probably be much more meaningful if you are looking at increasing individual odds.

1 Yale University
2 Princeton University
3 Amherst College
4 Harvard University
5 University of Chicago
6 Duke University
7 Columbia University
8 Georgetown University
9 Pomona College
10 Yeshiva University
11 Stanford University
12 Claremont McKenna College
13 Swarthmore College
14 Barnard College
15 Dartmouth College
16 University of Pennsylvania
17 Cornell University
18 Northwestern University
19 Williams College
20 Wesleyan University
21 Rice University
22 Washington University in St. Louis
23 Brown University
24 Vanderbilt University
25 Bowdoin College
26 Washington and Lee University
27 Tufts University
28 Brandeis University
29 Colgate University
30 Bryn Mawr College

Exactly; thank you.

And re GPA -- if you're an engineer, your undergrad GPA can be a little lower and still yield T6 acceptances.

How common is it for engineering undergrads to decide on law school? In a class if 200 law students...how many would be engineers or other stem degrees?

A dozen tops.

Why so low? Are the law schools not interested in STEM focused undergrads?

No STEM focused undergrads are not interested in law school.

Liberal arts focused undergraduate degrees are common in top law schools. Business and Stem focused degrees are not common and outside of IP-focused practices often less valued.

STEM focused undergraduates are common in top medical schools.
The rest of the STEM undergraduates dwarfs the rest of the lberal arts failures
LMFAO

OK TJ parent please have everyone do stem. workers are always needed for liberal arts major business owners. Everyone cant work in tech..

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Anonymous wrote:We are back to the tired "feeder" argument, I see. Dear teenagers, please understand that T14 law school admission is a numbers game, college GPA and LSAT. "Feeders" are not a thing, no matter how much you would like to believe that.

What percentage of the T14 admits have hooks of some kind? You often read in the press anecdotes about prominent so-and-so's child who is enrolled at one of these schools. What are the chances for the kid of a nobody like me, all other things being equal?

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To everyone saying LSAT > GPA >":

If your undergraduate GPA is rubbish, is there some scheme to go to do a one year graduate program? I know a handful of people who've picked up a seemingly random master's degree, then went to top 14 law schools. Is the undergraduate GPA not used if you have a master's? As in, you only use the most recent degree's GPA, i.e. master's program?

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Anonymous wrote:To everyone saying LSAT > GPA >":

If your undergraduate GPA is rubbish, is there some scheme to go to do a one year graduate program? I know a handful of people who've picked up a seemingly random master's degree, then went to top 14 law schools. Is the undergraduate GPA not used if you have a master's? As in, you only use the most recent degree's GPA, i.e. master's program?

I would just follow the example of a PP and try to transfer after first year— first year classes are mostly the same everywhere and you avoid the debt for an unnecessary masters degree.