CNN Special - Moms who voted for Biden explain why they voted for a Republican(Youngkin) in Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:You guys know that the vast majority of Northern Virginia still voted blue, right? You've seen that map?

Presumably everyone knows that. But fairfax county went 70/30 Biden down to 65/35 here. It wasn’t a landslide win for Youngkin. Those votes do matter.

Biden won Loudoun by 25 points, McAuliffe won by 10.

So they both won by wide margins. Got it.

The margins are shrinking, in areas where the Dems, due to their limited geographic appeal, can’t afford to lose votes. Got it?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys know that the vast majority of Northern Virginia still voted blue, right? You've seen that map?

Presumably everyone knows that. But fairfax county went 70/30 Biden down to 65/35 here. It wasn’t a landslide win for Youngkin. Those votes do matter.

Biden won Loudoun by 25 points, McAuliffe won by 10.

So they both won by wide margins. Got it.

The margins are shrinking, in areas where the Dems, due to their limited geographic appeal, can’t afford to lose votes. Got it?

This poster obviously doesn’t get it, and it’s why republicans will continue to gain momentum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You guys know that the vast majority of Northern Virginia still voted blue, right? You've seen that map?

Presumably everyone knows that. But fairfax county went 70/30 Biden down to 65/35 here. It wasn’t a landslide win for Youngkin. Those votes do matter.

Biden won Loudoun by 25 points, McAuliffe won by 10.

So they both won by wide margins. Got it.

Then this story is a nothing burger. CNN just being misogynists because no one is going to call them on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did posters even watch the short segment and even listen to what the women said? Democrats will keep losing if they don’t actually pay attention here.

I thought the women were pretty straight forward and made sense to me.

1) they voted for education, their #1 issues related to the learning gaps that resulted from virtual school and closures. They didn’t blame democrats for covid but they said every concern and complaint they had re schools during this almost 2 years of covid have been dismissed. They also do not like the teachers unions. Not a single one had issues with CRT or trans bathrooms. Those weren’t factors to them whatsoever.

2) One said it very well: Terry seemed to be campaigning everywhere but Virginia. The women were highly put off by McAullife’s constant plug of national politics and Trump when they found Youngkin to focus on state issues and actual Virginians. Apparently both Youngkin and his wife took many small group and one on one meetings with locals (I’ve heard that from other sources too).

3). They’re over Trump and talking about Trump. If Trump had come to Virginia in person to campaign for/with Youngkin they all may have voted differently because they don’t like him but he didn’t so it was a nonissue.

I think what these women have to say sums up very well the sentiment. Virginians view the gubernatorial election for what it was: a state election on state issues. The democrats hijacked it and tried to use it as a national platform against national policies and Trump and Virginians weren’t buying it. You can dismiss the women for being blonde (so lame to do) or for any other reason you desire but it won’t help democrats win in the future to ignore them.

You mean like how Youngkin hijacked local issues?

It goes both ways.

I guess; but I’m just summarizing what they said. Look the democrats lost in a pure popular vote. If they want to win future elections it wound be wise to understand why without being so defensive, just like anything in life. Learn and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It is school, just not the CRT stuff or vaccine or mask mandates. They’re angry that schools stayed closed for as long as they did and that the Democrats seemed dismissive of parents’ concerns about the resulting disruption and learning loss. I certainly understand their concerns but they do come off a bit self centered… like all that matters is them and their family, not the healthcare workers or teachers or the medically vulnerable. I think Democrats’ biggest mistake wasn’t necessarily closing schools, but for not showing more concern about the fallout now. Terry couldn’t even manage to fake it. He just didn’t connect with suburban women as much as he needed to.

Pretty much the majority of people, of every race, in every democratic country around the world is going to vote in their own self-interest. It’s human nature.

So frustrating. I’ve been criticized by a progressive D coworker for “only caring about my kids” who are in public schools for putting my kids in an honors program, worrying about overcrowding etc (this was pre-pandemic). She then turned around and sent her kids to private schools.

The Ds need to understand how that makes people feel. Maybe they get it now.

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If they voted for Trump in 2016, it’s not like they pay attention to anything.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

Still throwing that tantrum, huh?

So irrational.

Keep digging. You'll lose even more in the next election cycle.

Yes, jerks will lash out in spite whenever they are called out for their bad behavior.

You haven't successfully called out anyone. You are just flailing. So not only are you incompetent, you are providing an object lesson in Democratic failure for the class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

Still throwing that tantrum, huh?

So irrational.

Keep digging. You'll lose even more in the next election cycle.

Yes, jerks will lash out in spite whenever they are called out for their bad behavior.

You haven't successfully called out anyone. You are just flailing. So not only are you incompetent, you are providing an object lesson in Democratic failure for the class.

I’ve been calling people out for their tantrums for over a year now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic Party just doesn’t get it. Suburban parents do not want racial, sexual politics as the focus of their kids. Nor are they interested in white privilege. Nor are parents of girls interested in transgender men competing against their daughters in sports of lobbying for them to join them in the bathroom.

I’ve said it elsewhere on here. The normies are over it. They don’t want boys in their daughter’s bathrooms or sports teams. They don’t want images of oral sex in their school libraries. They don’t want to be called menstruators. They don’t want to be told they’re responsible for everything wrong in the world when they’re just doing their jobs and taking care of their kids. They’re done. Democrats need to listen instead of dismissing them as racists for not voting the way democrats want them to.

Totally agree. Solid Dem voter here and POC as well but the party has felt really out of touch this year. IMO Biden seemed really attune to what people were feeling last year re Covid, economy, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

Still throwing that tantrum, huh?

So irrational.

Keep digging. You'll lose even more in the next election cycle.

Yes, jerks will lash out in spite whenever they are called out for their bad behavior.

You haven't successfully called out anyone. You are just flailing. So not only are you incompetent, you are providing an object lesson in Democratic failure for the class.

I’ve been calling people out for their tantrums for over a year now.

Not successfully. You do seem to be doing a bang-up job of campaigning for the Republican party, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

This is a pretty hilarious version of events where you are portraying the complete closure of schools for a full year as perfectly reasonable, not a big deal, and widely agreed upon as the reasonable path. Not accurate. Virginia had the 7th fewest days of in-person learning last year among the 50 states. It was a big deal. And many, many people were screaming into the wind the whole time and being completely ignored or shamed for speaking up.

And yes January 2021 happened. But hyperbole much? You were fearful in your home? Get real.

The thing you people are missing is the school situation impacted people's every day lives and their children's every day lives and has had long-lasting fallout that people are continuing to grapple with to this day. Voters vote based on those kind of things. It doesn't mean these same people didn't watch the January 2021 events with horror. Both things can be true. But voters are going to vote on the issue that's impacting their day to day lives.