Why D1 if the school is only so so?

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Where can I find the athletic budgets for a given school?

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Anonymous wrote:Where can I find the athletic budgets for a given school?

Google. For publics, the numbers are out there but they will exclude booster organizations that help with coach compensation

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Anonymous wrote:First -- there really are not small D1 schools in rural areas. There are lots of D3 schools that fit that description.

Now -- for soccer -- you really need to be in the Power5 conferences to have maxed out scholarship numbers for women and maybe men. A bit more iffy for men even. Football numbers chase away those soccer scholarships for the guys. Conversely, they typically mean the women's side will have their full 14 (Title IX). Once you get outside the Power5 conferences then the scholarship numbers are likely to drop from the NCAA max allowed numbers.

Now -- to be frank -- the big thing about playing D1 college soccer is that it is very time consuming, and it prevents you from effectively taking certain majors. It is not so bad freshman year, because a kid will be taking typical freshman classes regardless of their major. The problems come when you start to get to required attendence classes for things like labs, and practice performances, and studio time, and you are travelling with the team. Sure you can take those things in the Summer of Spring terms, but pretty soon -- those classes start to require stack up and require that you have already taken XYZ course. But, you could not take XYZ course in the Fall, because you were on the team.

There is a reason why smart kids in college playing a sport typically end up in particular majors. They need to be done in 4-5 years, and it may not be possible with some majors.

Finally -- the reality is that lots of kids -- most even -- who come in playing will be off the team by their Junior year. Why? Largely because it is way too much work to also not be playing much or at all. During the Fall season -- so from the beginning of August to November and the end of the season -- a player will be easily devoting at least 40 hours a week to soccer not counting travel. When the season is over that will drop to about 20. If you are riding the bench after your freshmen year -- it is not much fun.

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. 14 scholarship for girls. Power 5 or not.

That’s stupid. Ask anyone. Or , better yet, look at school athletic budgets yourself. Lots of D1 women’s programs have 1 or 2 to give out to the team. Token amount to by books kind of thing. Actually - quite a few in P5 conferences will not give out 14.

You're correct. Lots of schools are not fully funded for soccer. In fact, in todays pandemic environment, more than ever.

Lol - Yeah, okay - we’re talking girls soccer. Go ahead and name 5 D1 schools only offering 1 or 2 athletic scholarships.

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Anonymous wrote:First -- there really are not small D1 schools in rural areas. There are lots of D3 schools that fit that description.

Now -- for soccer -- you really need to be in the Power5 conferences to have maxed out scholarship numbers for women and maybe men. A bit more iffy for men even. Football numbers chase away those soccer scholarships for the guys. Conversely, they typically mean the women's side will have their full 14 (Title IX). Once you get outside the Power5 conferences then the scholarship numbers are likely to drop from the NCAA max allowed numbers.

Now -- to be frank -- the big thing about playing D1 college soccer is that it is very time consuming, and it prevents you from effectively taking certain majors. It is not so bad freshman year, because a kid will be taking typical freshman classes regardless of their major. The problems come when you start to get to required attendence classes for things like labs, and practice performances, and studio time, and you are travelling with the team. Sure you can take those things in the Summer of Spring terms, but pretty soon -- those classes start to require stack up and require that you have already taken XYZ course. But, you could not take XYZ course in the Fall, because you were on the team.

There is a reason why smart kids in college playing a sport typically end up in particular majors. They need to be done in 4-5 years, and it may not be possible with some majors.

Finally -- the reality is that lots of kids -- most even -- who come in playing will be off the team by their Junior year. Why? Largely because it is way too much work to also not be playing much or at all. During the Fall season -- so from the beginning of August to November and the end of the season -- a player will be easily devoting at least 40 hours a week to soccer not counting travel. When the season is over that will drop to about 20. If you are riding the bench after your freshmen year -- it is not much fun.

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. 14 scholarship for girls. Power 5 or not.

That’s stupid. Ask anyone. Or , better yet, look at school athletic budgets yourself. Lots of D1 women’s programs have 1 or 2 to give out to the team. Token amount to by books kind of thing. Actually - quite a few in P5 conferences will not give out 14.

You're correct. Lots of schools are not fully funded for soccer. In fact, in todays pandemic environment, more than ever.

Lol - Yeah, okay - we’re talking girls soccer. Go ahead and name 5 D1 schools only offering 1 or 2 athletic scholarships.

D1 schools have 14 total scholarships to spread among all players. It's true for every school. So ..look at all the international players - they each consume a full scholarship, then you will see how much $ a coach has to spread around all the others. This includes the grad students.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.

What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?

Depending upon the kid's situation, most likely to help offset the cost of college. Maybe the kid is good enough to play D1 and maybe at a top school, but the top school isn't providing a full ride or enough of a subsidy. And on the flip side maybe the smaller school is offering a full ride. Or maybe the kid just barely is able to play D1, then this is their best shot at having college subsidized. It all depends on the kid's situation.

Thanks! I had not realized a lot of money was given to play soccer, so I learned something new.

Most college soccer programs have about ten scholarships to divvy up between the players. Some tend to split it between most of the team, some concentrate it to get a handful of stars.

Ten TOTAL, not 10 for each incoming class. So if upperclassman have scholarships, partial scholarships there can be very little $ left for incoming players some years.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what the draw is for soccer players to play D1 when the school itself may not be all that challenging for them. I could see doing that for football, because that sport has more potential money if you have the skills.

What’s the allure with accepting a recruited spot at a tiny school in a rural area just to play D1?

Depending upon the kid's situation, most likely to help offset the cost of college. Maybe the kid is good enough to play D1 and maybe at a top school, but the top school isn't providing a full ride or enough of a subsidy. And on the flip side maybe the smaller school is offering a full ride. Or maybe the kid just barely is able to play D1, then this is their best shot at having college subsidized. It all depends on the kid's situation.

Thanks! I had not realized a lot of money was given to play soccer, so I learned something new.

Most college soccer programs have about ten scholarships to divvy up between the players. Some tend to split it between most of the team, some concentrate it to get a handful of stars.

Ten TOTAL, not 10 for each incoming class. So if upperclassman have scholarships, partial scholarships there can be very little $ left for incoming players some years.

Boys have 10
Girls have 14

You need to refer to gender when providing numbers. They’re different.

It’s easier for a girl to get scholarship money.

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Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

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Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

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Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

You joke….but I’ll take it

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

You joke….but I’ll take it

Go ahead. There are colleges with significantly more resources and academic opportunity available and it is entirely appropriate for kids that can't get where they want to go with nova community college to pursue their dreams. All good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

You joke….but I’ll take it

To avoid loans the smartest thing is 2 years at Nova CC and then transferring into any of the big VA state universities for the last 2 years. Also easier to get in them coming out if senior year HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

You joke….but I’ll take it

To avoid loans the smartest thing is 2 years at Nova CC and then transferring into any of the big VA state universities for the last 2 years. Also easier to get in them coming out if senior year HS.

14 grand for an associates. Same two years at a big school cost about 48,000

Smarter not harder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where can I find the athletic budgets for a given school?

I’m not aware of any single source that consolidates this info, but I feel confident that the PP who claimed there are many D1 schools offering only 1 or 2 soccer scholarships is incorrect. Among good academic D1 schools with men’s soccer, I know several of the Patriot League programs are not fully funded and the same is true of Northwestern. We know kids playing on various soccer teams in most of the Power 5 conference, and all their teams offer the full 9.9 scholarships.

You’ll be able to get this info during the recruiting process, but it would be nice if some helpful person like the guy who does this great work could pull it together. https://scholarshipstats.com/soccer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

You joke….but I’ll take it

To avoid loans the smartest thing is 2 years at Nova CC and then transferring into any of the big VA state universities for the last 2 years. Also easier to get in them coming out if senior year HS.

14 grand for an associates. Same two years at a big school cost about 48,000

Smarter not harder

That is absurd. If the were the same, everyone would buy an associates degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

NoVA community college baby. Here we come. Full ride.

You joke….but I’ll take it

To avoid loans the smartest thing is 2 years at Nova CC and then transferring into any of the big VA state universities for the last 2 years. Also easier to get in them coming out if senior year HS.

14 grand for an associates. Same two years at a big school cost about 48,000

Smarter not harder

That is absurd. If the were the same, everyone would buy an associates degree.

What’s absurd? Glad you learned something today