Masking off-ramp coming soon?

[Anonymous]

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Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Bad example -- those are items kids are constantly losing.

My sister teaches at a school where kids take their masks of at recess and she says it is a lot of trouble to get then to put masks back on afterwards; the masks are lost, ripped, thrown away, whatever. She has started requiring kids to bring 2 masks daily if they plan to take it off at recess for this reason.

It's not really a bad example though is it? Do you expect them to wear their boots and hats and gloves inside because it's easier for you?

Plan for some misplaced masks and let them be outside without them on. This isn't that hard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The science shows you don’t need to mask outdoors. Why is you or anyone doing the hard thing exactly?

I thought that changed with delta?

But honestly, the reason to have kids wear masks at recess is that it keeps the rule consistent -- at school we wear masks all the time (except eating). They don't have a chance to go outside, remove and lose their masks, forget to put it back on. It's just part of what they wear, like their shoes and shirt and pants, and hair ribbons. It's part of the outfit.

I just got my booster so I'm totally fine now with unmasked, unvaccinated people in my workspace, though. I'd be fine with removing the mask mandate both outdoors and inside from a vaccinated adult perspective. The masks are to protect the kids from illness from each other at this point.

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Get real. If you drop a glove on the boot on the ground its not a big deal and its pretty obvious which is which boot. Also, they put the boots on inside at their cubby in an organized space

They have to remove the masks outside ,find a place to safely store them, keep them clean (these are going on their faces for the next 3 hours remember), and then put them back on before heading inside.

For little kids is a huge challenger.

Now you could require neck style masks holders and kids just keep them on their neck, But good luck getting compliance.

[Anonymous]

My preschooler does not struggle with this at all. Kids pick up on your attitude- is it just the slightest bit possible your dismissal of masks is influencing how they behave around you regarding masks?

As for when it ends, it ends when we’ve gotten to the point that our doctors, hospitals, and urgent cares are not completely overwhelmed with disease, so we can handle the odd case of severe COVID or flu in a kid and also have room for the appendectomies, tonsillectomies, broken bones, and cancer surgeries. Maybe we’re not overloaded locally at this very minute (although you try to get a same day sick appointment), but by the time we are it’s two weeks too late as the south has amply demonstrated for us this summer.

People who keep citing Europe ignore a lot of factors. Americans as a population are sicker and fatter. We don’t have a glorious wrap around safety net. People without means go to work spreading COVID every day because they have no choice and don’t go to the hospital or get tested until they have no choice. Our hospitals and supply chain are designed to operate to pretty close to max/real-time. This is the price we pay for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The science shows you don’t need to mask outdoors. Why is you or anyone doing the hard thing exactly?

I thought that changed with delta?

But honestly, the reason to have kids wear masks at recess is that it keeps the rule consistent -- at school we wear masks all the time (except eating). They don't have a chance to go outside, remove and lose their masks, forget to put it back on. It's just part of what they wear, like their shoes and shirt and pants, and hair ribbons. It's part of the outfit.

I just got my booster so I'm totally fine now with unmasked, unvaccinated people in my workspace, though. I'd be fine with removing the mask mandate both outdoors and inside from a vaccinated adult perspective. The masks are to protect the kids from illness from each other at this point.

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Get real. If you drop a glove on the boot on the ground its not a big deal and its pretty obvious which is which boot. Also, they put the boots on inside at their cubby in an organized space

They have to remove the masks outside ,find a place to safely store them, keep them clean (these are going on their faces for the next 3 hours remember), and then put them back on before heading inside.

For little kids is a huge challenger.

Now you could require neck style masks holders and kids just keep them on their neck, But good luck getting compliance.

Ok. Except lots of schools (my child’s is one of them) don’t require masks outside and it seems to be going fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My preschooler does not struggle with this at all. Kids pick up on your attitude- is it just the slightest bit possible your dismissal of masks is influencing how they behave around you regarding masks?

As for when it ends, it ends when we’ve gotten to the point that our doctors, hospitals, and urgent cares are not completely overwhelmed with disease, so we can handle the odd case of severe COVID or flu in a kid and also have room for the appendectomies, tonsillectomies, broken bones, and cancer surgeries. Maybe we’re not overloaded locally at this very minute (although you try to get a same day sick appointment), but by the time we are it’s two weeks too late as the south has amply demonstrated for us this summer.

People who keep citing Europe ignore a lot of factors. Americans as a population are sicker and fatter. We don’t have a glorious wrap around safety net. People without means go to work spreading COVID every day because they have no choice and don’t go to the hospital or get tested until they have no choice. Our hospitals and supply chain are designed to operate to pretty close to max/real-time. This is the price we pay for that.

No that’s not possible. People are not dismissing masks. People are saying their kids don’t like wearing them and they can cause language and social problems. Also your tone is very condescending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My preschooler does not struggle with this at all. Kids pick up on your attitude- is it just the slightest bit possible your dismissal of masks is influencing how they behave around you regarding masks?

As for when it ends, it ends when we’ve gotten to the point that our doctors, hospitals, and urgent cares are not completely overwhelmed with disease, so we can handle the odd case of severe COVID or flu in a kid and also have room for the appendectomies, tonsillectomies, broken bones, and cancer surgeries. Maybe we’re not overloaded locally at this very minute (although you try to get a same day sick appointment), but by the time we are it’s two weeks too late as the south has amply demonstrated for us this summer.

People who keep citing Europe ignore a lot of factors. Americans as a population are sicker and fatter. We don’t have a glorious wrap around safety net. People without means go to work spreading COVID every day because they have no choice and don’t go to the hospital or get tested until they have no choice. Our hospitals and supply chain are designed to operate to pretty close to max/real-time. This is the price we pay for that.

There is a long way between Florida this summer and letting kids take their masks off at recess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The science shows you don’t need to mask outdoors. Why is you or anyone doing the hard thing exactly?

I thought that changed with delta?

But honestly, the reason to have kids wear masks at recess is that it keeps the rule consistent -- at school we wear masks all the time (except eating). They don't have a chance to go outside, remove and lose their masks, forget to put it back on. It's just part of what they wear, like their shoes and shirt and pants, and hair ribbons. It's part of the outfit.

I just got my booster so I'm totally fine now with unmasked, unvaccinated people in my workspace, though. I'd be fine with removing the mask mandate both outdoors and inside from a vaccinated adult perspective. The masks are to protect the kids from illness from each other at this point.

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

This is so stupid. My kid wears hers on her wrist at recess. She puts her hand through the loops. This is what a lot of them do. And she has a spare on her backpack.

This is not rocket science.

Get real. If you drop a glove on the boot on the ground its not a big deal and its pretty obvious which is which boot. Also, they put the boots on inside at their cubby in an organized space

They have to remove the masks outside ,find a place to safely store them, keep them clean (these are going on their faces for the next 3 hours remember), and then put them back on before heading inside.

For little kids is a huge challenger.

Now you could require neck style masks holders and kids just keep them on their neck, But good luck getting compliance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The science shows you don’t need to mask outdoors. Why is you or anyone doing the hard thing exactly?

I thought that changed with delta?

But honestly, the reason to have kids wear masks at recess is that it keeps the rule consistent -- at school we wear masks all the time (except eating). They don't have a chance to go outside, remove and lose their masks, forget to put it back on. It's just part of what they wear, like their shoes and shirt and pants, and hair ribbons. It's part of the outfit.

I just got my booster so I'm totally fine now with unmasked, unvaccinated people in my workspace, though. I'd be fine with removing the mask mandate both outdoors and inside from a vaccinated adult perspective. The masks are to protect the kids from illness from each other at this point.

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Get real. If you drop a glove on the boot on the ground its not a big deal and its pretty obvious which is which boot. Also, they put the boots on inside at their cubby in an organized space

They have to remove the masks outside ,find a place to safely store them, keep them clean (these are going on their faces for the next 3 hours remember), and then put them back on before heading inside.

For little kids is a huge challenger.

Now you could require neck style masks holders and kids just keep them on their neck, But good luck getting compliance.

This is so stupid. My kid wears hers on her wrist at recess. She puts her hand through the loops. This is what a lot of them do. And she has a spare on her backpack.

This is not rocket science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My preschooler does not struggle with this at all. Kids pick up on your attitude- is it just the slightest bit possible your dismissal of masks is influencing how they behave around you regarding masks?

As for when it ends, it ends when we’ve gotten to the point that our doctors, hospitals, and urgent cares are not completely overwhelmed with disease, so we can handle the odd case of severe COVID or flu in a kid and also have room for the appendectomies, tonsillectomies, broken bones, and cancer surgeries. Maybe we’re not overloaded locally at this very minute (although you try to get a same day sick appointment), but by the time we are it’s two weeks too late as the south has amply demonstrated for us this summer.

People who keep citing Europe ignore a lot of factors. Americans as a population are sicker and fatter. We don’t have a glorious wrap around safety net. People without means go to work spreading COVID every day because they have no choice and don’t go to the hospital or get tested until they have no choice. Our hospitals and supply chain are designed to operate to pretty close to max/real-time. This is the price we pay for that.

There is a long way between Florida this summer and letting kids take their masks off at recess.

Of course. Maybe I’m late to the discussion here, but the thread title is about the masking off ramp. And there’s plenty of people that are questioning the need for masks at all. I agree kids shouldn’t be wearing them inside unless they are all over each other the whole time. Teachers need to figure it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My preschooler does not struggle with this at all. Kids pick up on your attitude- is it just the slightest bit possible your dismissal of masks is influencing how they behave around you regarding masks?

As for when it ends, it ends when we’ve gotten to the point that our doctors, hospitals, and urgent cares are not completely overwhelmed with disease, so we can handle the odd case of severe COVID or flu in a kid and also have room for the appendectomies, tonsillectomies, broken bones, and cancer surgeries. Maybe we’re not overloaded locally at this very minute (although you try to get a same day sick appointment), but by the time we are it’s two weeks too late as the south has amply demonstrated for us this summer.

People who keep citing Europe ignore a lot of factors. Americans as a population are sicker and fatter. We don’t have a glorious wrap around safety net. People without means go to work spreading COVID every day because they have no choice and don’t go to the hospital or get tested until they have no choice. Our hospitals and supply chain are designed to operate to pretty close to max/real-time. This is the price we pay for that.

There is a long way between Florida this summer and letting kids take their masks off at recess.

Of course. Maybe I’m late to the discussion here, but the thread title is about the masking off ramp. And there’s plenty of people that are questioning the need for masks at all. I agree kids shouldn’t be wearing them inside unless they are all over each other the whole time. Teachers need to figure it out.

Gah, I meant *outside*.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The science shows you don’t need to mask outdoors. Why is you or anyone doing the hard thing exactly?

I thought that changed with delta?

But honestly, the reason to have kids wear masks at recess is that it keeps the rule consistent -- at school we wear masks all the time (except eating). They don't have a chance to go outside, remove and lose their masks, forget to put it back on. It's just part of what they wear, like their shoes and shirt and pants, and hair ribbons. It's part of the outfit.

I just got my booster so I'm totally fine now with unmasked, unvaccinated people in my workspace, though. I'd be fine with removing the mask mandate both outdoors and inside from a vaccinated adult perspective. The masks are to protect the kids from illness from each other at this point.

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Get real. If you drop a glove on the boot on the ground its not a big deal and its pretty obvious which is which boot. Also, they put the boots on inside at their cubby in an organized space

They have to remove the masks outside ,find a place to safely store them, keep them clean (these are going on their faces for the next 3 hours remember), and then put them back on before heading inside.

For little kids is a huge challenger.

Now you could require neck style masks holders and kids just keep them on their neck, But good luck getting compliance.

This is so stupid. My kid wears hers on her wrist at recess. She puts her hand through the loops. This is what a lot of them do. And she has a spare on her backpack.

This is not rocket science.

Exactly. My kids either wear them on their wrists or pull the masks below their chin. Not sure why people are acting like this is hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Bad example -- those are items kids are constantly losing.

My sister teaches at a school where kids take their masks of at recess and she says it is a lot of trouble to get then to put masks back on afterwards; the masks are lost, ripped, thrown away, whatever. She has started requiring kids to bring 2 masks daily if they plan to take it off at recess for this reason.

It's not really a bad example though is it? Do you expect them to wear their boots and hats and gloves inside because it's easier for you?

Plan for some misplaced masks and let them be outside without them on. This isn't that hard.

If kids were required to wear hats and scarves and boots and mittens all day outside, and we only went indoors for a 20 min play period, yes I’d have them keep those things on for that 20 min period. They would totally lose the items in twenty minutes. You have no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Bad example -- those are items kids are constantly losing.

My sister teaches at a school where kids take their masks of at recess and she says it is a lot of trouble to get then to put masks back on afterwards; the masks are lost, ripped, thrown away, whatever. She has started requiring kids to bring 2 masks daily if they plan to take it off at recess for this reason.

It's not really a bad example though is it? Do you expect them to wear their boots and hats and gloves inside because it's easier for you?

Plan for some misplaced masks and let them be outside without them on. This isn't that hard.

Soooooo...I am just an innocent bystander reading your posts. Here is my input for you: you are so angry and threatening that as a parent I am turned off by your behavior and what you're saying.

You are being rude and disrespectful towards the men and women who have your children in their care. If you cannot be civil, if you cannot manage your anger, if you cannot understand how rude you are then you really need to take a break from this thread and this forum.

There is no place for people like you here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The science shows you don’t need to mask outdoors. Why is you or anyone doing the hard thing exactly?

I thought that changed with delta?

But honestly, the reason to have kids wear masks at recess is that it keeps the rule consistent -- at school we wear masks all the time (except eating). They don't have a chance to go outside, remove and lose their masks, forget to put it back on. It's just part of what they wear, like their shoes and shirt and pants, and hair ribbons. It's part of the outfit.

I just got my booster so I'm totally fine now with unmasked, unvaccinated people in my workspace, though. I'd be fine with removing the mask mandate both outdoors and inside from a vaccinated adult perspective. The masks are to protect the kids from illness from each other at this point.

Not buying this. Kids also don't wear hats, gloves, scarves, warm coats, and boots inside either. They know the difference between indoor and outdoor items.

Get real. If you drop a glove on the boot on the ground its not a big deal and its pretty obvious which is which boot. Also, they put the boots on inside at their cubby in an organized space

They have to remove the masks outside ,find a place to safely store them, keep them clean (these are going on their faces for the next 3 hours remember), and then put them back on before heading inside.

For little kids is a huge challenger.

Now you could require neck style masks holders and kids just keep them on their neck, But good luck getting compliance.

This is so stupid. My kid wears hers on her wrist at recess. She puts her hand through the loops. This is what a lot of them do. And she has a spare on her backpack.

This is not rocket science.

Exactly. My kids either wear them on their wrists or pull the masks below their chin. Not sure why people are acting like this is hard.

I think it is one poster with mental health issues. That's the only thing that explains all the misplaced anger in her posts. She needs some serious help.

-Signed, A Parent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher at an elementary school where kids have to wear masks all day, including at recess.
Very few kids have a problem wearing their mask at recess. I supervise recess duty for half an hour daily at my school for first graders. They all are perfectly able to wear masks. It simply isn't a problem.

My child’s teacher made a similar comment. I was blown away because my son constantly asks when he can stop wearing it.

Yeah, with all due respect to the teachers, the kids do what they're told to do but my daughter asks at least 3 times a week when she can stop wearing the mask. Just because they follow the rules, doesn't mean "it simply isn't a problem".

It's hard for these young kids to navigate social relationships with each other and new adults when they cannot see any facial expressions. Also some of them still have speech issues they are working through and the masks make it even more difficult on this front. It's not normal. To me, of course mask indoors where the benefit is still evident at this point in time when they are not able to be vaccinated. But masking outside is theater and it is has real negatives that outweigh doing it.

Sure kids want to stop masking. We teachers do, too. I have to wear it all day along with a voice amplifier so the kids can hear me!
But kids are absolutely capable of wearing these masks at recess. They complain to parents because you are their parents. My teen complains to me too. But she can wear her mask at practice and at her outdoor job. We can do hard things.

The REAL problem with not wearing a mask out doors during recess is where to put the MF masks. We are already running through TONS of masks in my classroom, both from kid extra mask supplies and my own that I donated to the class. Then, what happens when your kid puts their mask down and picks up someone else’s. If you are advocating putting them in the classroom, the kids are eating out side and already miss at least 5 minutes of recess from transition time so an extra trip to class will extend that to 10-15 minutes of missed recess. They could put them in their lunch boxes, but most kids are
“Buying” so that isn’t really an option either.