Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Israel has its weapons and is already being Annihilated in the press and in front of the world

Nobody shares Israel’s view that Hamas are animals. It turns out that most people support the little guy and the one who has been under decades long oppression.

At one time, that was Israelis themselves who had the entire sympathy of the world. At this time, it is the Palestinians.


You greatly misestimate the situation.
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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Israel has its weapons and is already being Annihilated in the press and in front of the world

Nobody shares Israel’s view that Hamas are animals. It turns out that most people support the little guy and the one who has been under decades long oppression.

At one time, that was Israelis themselves who had the entire sympathy of the world. At this time, it is the Palestinians.


If Palestine has so much sympathy then why does even Jordan not want to help them with a peace deal? And why are so many others silent?
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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Hamas literally has a manifesto that says there should not be a single Jew remaining between the sea and the Jordan river.


I initially thought that chant was catchy enough, but I can't listen to it now that I understand it. While I am not against peaceful demonstrations to apply pressure on different issues, I would never join a Palestinian rally now I've noticed the protestors seem to chant it non-stop. Ugly.
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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Hamas literally has a manifesto that says there should not be a single Jew remaining between the sea and the Jordan river.


I initially thought that chant was catchy enough, but I can't listen to it now that I understand it. While I am not against peaceful demonstrations to apply pressure on different issues, I would never join a Palestinian rally now I've noticed the protestors seem to chant it non-stop. Ugly.


Jewish genocide! What a catchy tune!
Anonymous
To me, it's simple. If you side with Hamas, you help build the world Hamas wants. If you side with Israel, you help build the world Israel wants. Which vision of the world do you want to live in... really?
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Anonymous wrote:To me, it's simple. If you side with Hamas, you help build the world Hamas wants. If you side with Israel, you help build the world Israel wants. Which vision of the world do you want to live in... really?


Well life is not simple. I want neither of those worlds.
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Anonymous wrote:To me, it's simple. If you side with Hamas, you help build the world Hamas wants. If you side with Israel, you help build the world Israel wants. Which vision of the world do you want to live in... really?


Well life is not simple. I want neither of those worlds.


Well I think Israel would also prefer not to be a militarized security state, but that's been a necessity imposed on them by others.
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Anonymous wrote:To me, it's simple. If you side with Hamas, you help build the world Hamas wants. If you side with Israel, you help build the world Israel wants. Which vision of the world do you want to live in... really?


Well life is not simple. I want neither of those worlds.


Well I think Israel would also prefer not to be a militarized security state, but that's been a necessity imposed on them by others.


And I'm sure Gazans would like to be able to grow enough food and have enough water to live on their own.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Israel has its weapons and is already being Annihilated in the press and in front of the world

Nobody shares Israel’s view that Hamas are animals. It turns out that most people support the little guy and the one who has been under decades long oppression.

At one time, that was Israelis themselves who had the entire sympathy of the world. At this time, it is the Palestinians.


If Palestine has so much sympathy then why does even Jordan not want to help them with a peace deal? And why are so many others silent?


Because they don’t want to be killed by Mossad or America .
Anonymous
Neither Hamas nor the Israeli government want Jews and Arabs to live together in peace. They are in power because they stoke hatred. Ironically, they both need each other to survive politically.

Neither side wants a two state solution. Both have made significant efforts to undermine it. I really don't see this ending ever. They don't want it to.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


+1000

This, in a nutshell, sums it all up.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Israel has its weapons and is already being Annihilated in the press and in front of the world

Nobody shares Israel’s view that Hamas are animals. It turns out that most people support the little guy and the one who has been under decades long oppression.

At one time, that was Israelis themselves who had the entire sympathy of the world. At this time, it is the Palestinians.


I hate to break it to you but the torture rape and massacre of innocents and the videos of it makes Hamas no better than isis or animals. And asides from vocal religious militants and crazy left wing liberals most people see this for what it is.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Israel has its weapons and is already being Annihilated in the press and in front of the world

Nobody shares Israel’s view that Hamas are animals. It turns out that most people support the little guy and the one who has been under decades long oppression.

At one time, that was Israelis themselves who had the entire sympathy of the world. At this time, it is the Palestinians.


You greatly misestimate the situation.


I wish I were misestimating but everyone can see Netanyahu has sunk Israel down in world standing and in internal security. The asshat was supporting Hamas for all these years never thinking that would come back to hurt Israelis. I am so sorry that Hamas was able to do what they did on October 7, but this was not a surprise to me at all given the increasing settler violence. We, as Americans, warned Netanyahu countless times that settlers will ignite Hamas to act and he disregarded the warnings.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


Israel has its weapons and is already being Annihilated in the press and in front of the world

Nobody shares Israel’s view that Hamas are animals. It turns out that most people support the little guy and the one who has been under decades long oppression.

At one time, that was Israelis themselves who had the entire sympathy of the world. At this time, it is the Palestinians.


OH. MY. GOD.


That PP has been speaking as though she speaks for the entire world in this entire thread, and is quite obviously certifiable. I find it fascinating in a way.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.


big surprise.


The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?


Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.


+10000


The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.


I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.


Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.


+1000

This, in a nutshell, sums it all up.


If Hamas lays down its weapons, what happens to Gazans for the next ten, twenty, thirty years? Is that really peace or the absence of war?
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