USC and Columbia Protests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Biden camp not sweating political fallout from latest round of campus protests"
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/23/biden-camp-political-fallout-campus-protests-00154000

Remember those massive lines at UT, Michigan, and so many college campuses of young voters in 2020. I'm afraid the Dems will be in for a rude awakening with this blasé attitude.

The pictures of pro Hamas protests at state universities show very small crowds relative to the university sizes. I doubt most students are voting based on Gaza. This is the height of delusion.

Mu local regional state university is quite sizable and there has been nary a hint of protest because it's just normal students getting on with their education. The Ivy protesters are very out of touch.

Pro Hamas? Who is pro Hamas?

Are you trying to re-frame opposition to the genocide of the Palestinian people as pro Hamas?

[Anonymous]

Anti semitic white people were allowed to stroll through Charlottesville and uva yelling hateful slurs a few years back. And they were allowed to. Because they were all white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Biden camp not sweating political fallout from latest round of campus protests"
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/23/biden-camp-political-fallout-campus-protests-00154000

Remember those massive lines at UT, Michigan, and so many college campuses of young voters in 2020. I'm afraid the Dems will be in for a rude awakening with this blasé attitude.

The pictures of pro Hamas protests at state universities show very small crowds relative to the university sizes. I doubt most students are voting based on Gaza. This is the height of delusion.

Mu local regional state university is quite sizable and there has been nary a hint of protest because it's just normal students getting on with their education. The Ivy protesters are very out of touch.

Pro Hamas? Who is pro Hamas?

Are you trying to re-frame opposition to the genocide of the Palestinian people as pro Hamas?

You are re framing support for Hamas as opposition to genocide.

See, anyone can play semantic games, and they are pointless. They never change minds. Just admit you have a goal, and their are people opposed to your goal, and that is why wars are fought. Palestinians are not going to get what they want by outwitting Israel out of its country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti semitic white people were allowed to stroll through Charlottesville and uva yelling hateful slurs a few years back. And they were allowed to. Because they were all white?

Palestinians are white. Look at at Gigi Hadid's dad call congressman Cruz.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UT is a taxpayer funded university whose primary purpose is for dedicated students to attend classes, study, and learn, unimpeded & without threat of personal physical harm. ON CAMPUS everything else is lower priority.
When a protest prevents this primary function that students/parents/taxpayers are PAYING for, it is no longer a peaceful lawful protest.

Would you say the same about protesters who sat in diners in the south to protest segregation? Those were private businesses and the protesters interrupted people's lunch, the primary purpose of those lunch counters. I guess they deserved having water cannons sprayed at them???

Seriously, this is a path that we should not be going down.

For the millionth time, black people being used as a prop, how original.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Biden camp not sweating political fallout from latest round of campus protests"
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/23/biden-camp-political-fallout-campus-protests-00154000

Remember those massive lines at UT, Michigan, and so many college campuses of young voters in 2020. I'm afraid the Dems will be in for a rude awakening with this blasé attitude.

The pictures of pro Hamas protests at state universities show very small crowds relative to the university sizes. I doubt most students are voting based on Gaza. This is the height of delusion.

Mu local regional state university is quite sizable and there has been nary a hint of protest because it's just normal students getting on with their education. The Ivy protesters are very out of touch.

Pro Hamas? Who is pro Hamas?

Are you trying to re-frame opposition to the genocide of the Palestinian people as pro Hamas?

You are re framing support for Hamas as opposition to genocide.

See, anyone can play semantic games, and they are pointless. They never change minds. Just admit you have a goal, and their are people opposed to your goal, and that is why wars are fought. Palestinians are not going to get what they want by outwitting Israel out of its country.

My goal is simply coexistence.

But as to your point, the world sat by when Zionists were allowed to take what they wanted in 1948. Was there a time limit on groups getting what they want, after which borders were fixed? Of course not, otherwise Israel wouldn’t have been able to spend the last 75 years illegally occupying the land of others, right? So why are you convinced that window of opportunity has closed for others?

But bigger picture, I do have some concern as to the confidence you have regarding the status quo being immutable. I hope you will reconsider that position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Biden camp not sweating political fallout from latest round of campus protests"
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/23/biden-camp-political-fallout-campus-protests-00154000

Remember those massive lines at UT, Michigan, and so many college campuses of young voters in 2020. I'm afraid the Dems will be in for a rude awakening with this blasé attitude.

The pictures of pro Hamas protests at state universities show very small crowds relative to the university sizes. I doubt most students are voting based on Gaza. This is the height of delusion.

Mu local regional state university is quite sizable and there has been nary a hint of protest because it's just normal students getting on with their education. The Ivy protesters are very out of touch.

Pro Hamas? Who is pro Hamas?

Are you trying to re-frame opposition to the genocide of the Palestinian people as pro Hamas?

You are re framing support for Hamas as opposition to genocide.

See, anyone can play semantic games, and they are pointless. They never change minds. Just admit you have a goal, and their are people opposed to your goal, and that is why wars are fought. Palestinians are not going to get what they want by outwitting Israel out of its country.

My goal is simply coexistence.

But as to your point, the world sat by when Zionists were allowed to take what they wanted in 1948. Was there a time limit on groups getting what they want, after which borders were fixed? Of course not, otherwise Israel wouldn’t have been able to spend the last 75 years illegally occupying the land of others, right? So why are you convinced that window of opportunity has closed for others?

But bigger picture, I do have some concern as to the confidence you have regarding the status quo being immutable. I hope you will reconsider that position.

Whatever, you are not going to get what you want by semantic games. It will take a war. So go for it. Oh wait, that has happened many times in the past 80 years and is happening now. Talk is cheap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Biden camp not sweating political fallout from latest round of campus protests"
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/23/biden-camp-political-fallout-campus-protests-00154000

Remember those massive lines at UT, Michigan, and so many college campuses of young voters in 2020. I'm afraid the Dems will be in for a rude awakening with this blasé attitude.

The pictures of pro Hamas protests at state universities show very small crowds relative to the university sizes. I doubt most students are voting based on Gaza. This is the height of delusion.

Mu local regional state university is quite sizable and there has been nary a hint of protest because it's just normal students getting on with their education. The Ivy protesters are very out of touch.

Really?

Minnesota https://www.mprnews.org/story/2024/04/23/u-of-m-protest-authorities-clear-anti-war-encampment-university-of-minnesota

Washington State https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/hundreds-of-wa-students-walk-off-campuses-to-protest-u-s-aid-to-israel/

Mississippi https://www.clarionledger.com/picture-gallery/news/2024/03/13/israel-palestine-war-protest/72961350007/

Missouri https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/missouri-republicans-are-losing-it-over-campus-pro-palestine-protests-42394160

Wisconsin https://www.dailycardinal.com/article/2024/02/pro-palestinian-protests-continue-against-uwpd-and-uw-madison-engineering-college

North Carolina https://abc11.com/unc-palestine-rally-students-react-to-arrests-columbia-university/14694663/

New Mexico https://www.abqjournal.com/news/interrupt-business-as-usual-unm-students-and-others-protest-war-between-israel-and-hamas-and/article_e0501bb4-01b2-11ef-b1e7-f70d1c64d8e3.html

Colorado (from Nov) https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/protest-heated-students-walk-class-support-palestinians/

Iowa (from Nov) https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2023/11/04/university-of-iowa-students-hold-pro-palestine-protest-calling-for-justice-peace/

Tennessee students managing to protest funds to Israel while also protesting the armed teacher bill passed yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UT is a taxpayer funded university whose primary purpose is for dedicated students to attend classes, study, and learn, unimpeded & without threat of personal physical harm. ON CAMPUS everything else is lower priority.
When a protest prevents this primary function that students/parents/taxpayers are PAYING for, it is no longer a peaceful lawful protest.

Would you say the same about protesters who sat in diners in the south to protest segregation? Those were private businesses and the protesters interrupted people's lunch, the primary purpose of those lunch counters. I guess they deserved having water cannons sprayed at them???

Seriously, this is a path that we should not be going down.

For the millionth time, black people being used as a prop, how original.

Substitute it as a protest for anything else then. LGBTQ rights. Women’s rights. A protest against the election of Donald trump. A protest against the loss of Donald Trump. Are those going to be your standards of when law enforcement should intervene? Well they were disrupting people! Let’s arrest them all!

If trump wins or loses, you can bet there will be massive protests. I wonder if you will have the same standards at that time for peaceful protests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UT is a taxpayer funded university whose primary purpose is for dedicated students to attend classes, study, and learn, unimpeded & without threat of personal physical harm. ON CAMPUS everything else is lower priority.
When a protest prevents this primary function that students/parents/taxpayers are PAYING for, it is no longer a peaceful lawful protest.

Would you say the same about protesters who sat in diners in the south to protest segregation? Those were private businesses and the protesters interrupted people's lunch, the primary purpose of those lunch counters. I guess they deserved having water cannons sprayed at them???

Seriously, this is a path that we should not be going down.

For the millionth time, black people being used as a prop, how original.

Substitute it as a protest for anything else then. LGBTQ rights. Women’s rights. A protest against the election of Donald trump. A protest against the loss of Donald Trump. Are those going to be your standards of when law enforcement should intervene? Well they were disrupting people! Let’s arrest them all!

If trump wins or loses, you can bet there will be massive protests. I wonder if you will have the same standards at that time for peaceful protests.

Protests that break the law are not peaceful. Yeah, even if hate the country you are protesting in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti semitic white people were allowed to stroll through Charlottesville and uva yelling hateful slurs a few years back. And they were allowed to. Because they were all white?

No dumbass, they had a permit. They filed all the necessary the forms and got permission.

You do not have the legal right to protest anywhere, anytime or anyplace without consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UT is a taxpayer funded university whose primary purpose is for dedicated students to attend classes, study, and learn, unimpeded & without threat of personal physical harm. ON CAMPUS everything else is lower priority.
When a protest prevents this primary function that students/parents/taxpayers are PAYING for, it is no longer a peaceful lawful protest.

Would you say the same about protesters who sat in diners in the south to protest segregation? Those were private businesses and the protesters interrupted people's lunch, the primary purpose of those lunch counters. I guess they deserved having water cannons sprayed at them???

Seriously, this is a path that we should not be going down.

For the millionth time, black people being used as a prop, how original.

Substitute it as a protest for anything else then. LGBTQ rights. Women’s rights. A protest against the election of Donald trump. A protest against the loss of Donald Trump. Are those going to be your standards of when law enforcement should intervene? Well they were disrupting people! Let’s arrest them all!

If trump wins or loses, you can bet there will be massive protests. I wonder if you will have the same standards at that time for peaceful protests.

Protests that break the law are not peaceful. Yeah, even if hate the country you are protesting in.

They were arrested for obstructing a sidewalk. That’s the law they were breaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t Biden come out and speak on this issue?

Because he is a coward and a god-awful president. I thought Trump was supposed to be the tyrannical despot. I was so wrong.

Proud of these students. I'm hopeful for the very first time that we will see actual change in our ME policy. Hopefully this is the end of decades of ethnic cleansing.

Same

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UT is a taxpayer funded university whose primary purpose is for dedicated students to attend classes, study, and learn, unimpeded & without threat of personal physical harm. ON CAMPUS everything else is lower priority.
When a protest prevents this primary function that students/parents/taxpayers are PAYING for, it is no longer a peaceful lawful protest.

Would you say the same about protesters who sat in diners in the south to protest segregation? Those were private businesses and the protesters interrupted people's lunch, the primary purpose of those lunch counters. I guess they deserved having water cannons sprayed at them???

Seriously, this is a path that we should not be going down.

For the millionth time, black people being used as a prop, how original.

Substitute it as a protest for anything else then. LGBTQ rights. Women’s rights. A protest against the election of Donald trump. A protest against the loss of Donald Trump. Are those going to be your standards of when law enforcement should intervene? Well they were disrupting people! Let’s arrest them all!

If trump wins or loses, you can bet there will be massive protests. I wonder if you will have the same standards at that time for peaceful protests.

Protests that break the law are not peaceful. Yeah, even if hate the country you are protesting in.

They were arrested for obstructing a sidewalk. That’s the law they were breaking.

Good. Consequences for breaking laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UT is a taxpayer funded university whose primary purpose is for dedicated students to attend classes, study, and learn, unimpeded & without threat of personal physical harm. ON CAMPUS everything else is lower priority.
When a protest prevents this primary function that students/parents/taxpayers are PAYING for, it is no longer a peaceful lawful protest.

Would you say the same about protesters who sat in diners in the south to protest segregation? Those were private businesses and the protesters interrupted people's lunch, the primary purpose of those lunch counters. I guess they deserved having water cannons sprayed at them???

Seriously, this is a path that we should not be going down.

For the millionth time, black people being used as a prop, how original.

Substitute it as a protest for anything else then. LGBTQ rights. Women’s rights. A protest against the election of Donald trump. A protest against the loss of Donald Trump. Are those going to be your standards of when law enforcement should intervene? Well they were disrupting people! Let’s arrest them all!

If trump wins or loses, you can bet there will be massive protests. I wonder if you will have the same standards at that time for peaceful protests.

Protests that break the law are not peaceful. Yeah, even if hate the country you are protesting in.

They were arrested for obstructing a sidewalk. That’s the law they were breaking.

Good, glad they got arrested. The sidewalk belongs to everyone and should not be blocked.