3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



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But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.


What evidence to the contrary? An alternate universe where there are "good" guys who stop these mass shootings?
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.

Hop into the news and you can find plenty of evidence that I’m right and you’re wrong.

Actually you can find actual evidence - not a pathetic YouTube wormhole someone uses to ramp up their cortisol - that I’m right and you’re wrong.

“In fact, recently gathered data show that fewer than one-third of all active shooters are actually stopped by law enforcement. Moreover, "good guys" with both guns and badges have been responsible for dozens of friendly-fire deaths of their fellow officers, and the other "good guys with guns"—security guards or bystanders—are frequently killed by police arriving on the scene. In fact, in the last seven years alone, police officers have shot and killed more than 8,000 people in this country.” https://policingequity.org/resources/blog/the-fiction-of-a-good-guy-with-a-gun

“From 2000 to 2021, ALERRT researchers studied 464 attacks (434 shootings, 23 knife attacks and seven vehicle attacks) and found civilians — including security guards and off-duty police officers — stopped attackers before police arrived on 73 occasions. In the vast majority of those cases (67%), bystanders subdued the assailant using physical force.

An armed civilian stopped attacks by shooting the suspect in 24 of the 464 attacks recorded, about 5% of all events.” Emphasis mine. Wowie. 5% to 67% of people just going for it and overpowering the loser gun nut. https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/midwest/how-often-does-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-end-an-attack/

Gosh, how about just a good guy who’s not a cop but is paid to be there? Like a school officer, how about that? “Research disputes recent assertions from Cruz and others that armed law enforcement on campus is “the most effective tool for keeping kids safe.” A 2021 JAMA Network Open study analyzed every documented incident from 1980-2019 in which “one or more people was intentionally shot in a school building during the school day, or where a perpetrator came to school heavily armed with the intent of firing indiscriminately.” It found “no association between having an armed officer and deterrence of violence.” “When there’s more guns, more people die,” says Jillian Peterson, one of the author’s of the JAMA study.” Oh, so no joy there, either. https://time.com/6182970/good-guys-guns-mass-shootings-uvalde/

I’ve got a crazy mad idea but given that the Republicans would just as soon see every last one of us exploded in a red explosion of tissue and have tried nothing: WHAT ABOUT IF WE DIDN’T HAVE SO DUCKING MANY GUNS. It’s so crazy it just might work here like it does in every other ducking country with gun control.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.


What evidence to the contrary? An alternate universe where there are "good" guys who stop these mass shootings?

The one where the PP has been lapping up pretend scenarios and thinking they’re all real. That one.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.


Well despite all those channels the good guys aren't doing a good enough job. 40,000 people killed by gun shots every year in the US.
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Anonymous wrote:In China they have mass stabbing.


That don't kill 40,000 a year like guns do.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


That’s just nonsense. We can reduce the number and severity of mass shootings.



You think a law will stop someone from killing? They’re going to kill or find an gun regardless of the law.


It’s against the law to kill, right? So what’s stopping someone from getting an AR if it’s also against the law? A murdered doesn’t care about the law.


So let's do away with all laws is what you're saying.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.


Well despite all those channels the good guys aren't doing a good enough job. 40,000 people killed by gun shots every year in the US.


Mass shootings kill on average 51 people per year.
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Anonymous wrote:Nothing to see here. Probably had too many doors and too little God at that Christian school.

Thoughts and prayers, but certainly no actionable changes needed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/nashville-school-shooting-green-hills-b2308856.html





Just stop.

Such a hateful statement.
Thankfully, the shooter is dead. Pray for the children and the families.


OP here. I am a mother of two elementary school students and I am fed up with "thoughts and prayers" and no action every time I see another school shooting.

So unless you have something more productive to offer than "pray" (FYI, I'm an atheist, so no, I won't), you stop please. Stop and offer potential solutions that aren't prayers and more doors.


How is offering potential solutions in a conversation or online any different than thoughts and prayers. There isn’t. It was another school shooting. Please move along. -NP


It is completely different. One does something to stop the problem. The other doesn't.


No, it’s all talk.
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If we enact sensible gun ownership laws right now it won’t fix the problem immediately but maybe 20 years from now life will be different. If not, 20 years from now nothing will have changed.
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She tweeted this after the shooting in TN where 6 innocent people lost their lives. Totally reprehensible.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.


What evidence to the contrary? An alternate universe where there are "good" guys who stop these mass shootings?


Spend more time on youtube and you will find shooters and criminals taken out by concealed carriers.

A lot of them are centered on appropriate use of force.
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Anonymous wrote:Sane people don't go around mass murdering people. Clearly this woman was mentally ill (even her parents had concerns about her well-being). The problem is mental illness, not guns.



+1000

But what would this mentally ill person have done without legally purchased guns? Not shoot 6 people dead.


There are other ways to harm than just guns. Such as bombs, using cars as a weapon, poisonous gas, etc.

If someone wants to kill, they’re going to do it. Taking one tool away to kill won’t solve that.


Then why don’t we see this happening with the same frequency in other countries?


Because other countries don’t push violence on tv 24/7 like America does.


And they have much more strict gun regulation they usually pass after the first mass shooting. Unlike the US were guns more before people.


Yup. In the US, mass shootings BOOST gun sales.

That’s just how dysfunctional our country is.



As it should be. I want to protect myself from a crazy shooter.

Okay. But you can’t, not in reality. “Good” guys are never the iconic cowboys they think they’ll be. They’re too afraid to remember how to shoot at all or they shoot innocents or just crap themselves like everyone else. And honestly what kind of mental problem is it if someone keeps buying guns with each mass shooting? At the end of the year, if you bought one gun for every mass shooting in 2021, you’d have 690 guns and then an additional 647 for 2022 and then 131 for this year so far. What kind of idiot needs 1468 guns to feel better about themselves? A gulllible, egotistical and not very intelligent kind of idiot.


Hop on youtube and you will find plenty of evidence to the contrary. There are channels dedicated to that sort of thing.


Well despite all those channels the good guys aren't doing a good enough job. 40,000 people killed by gun shots every year in the US.


Mass shootings kill on average 51 people per year.


How many people die by gun violence every year? How many are maimed and hurt?
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