What the hell happened to JD Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:What happened? Nothing. He's someone who jumps from career to career. He never stays at anything long. He doesn't get good at anything before he's off ot he next deal.

He graduated high school, joined the Marines for 4 years. Came back and with the GI bill, did college for 2.5 years, then went to law school for 4 years. He came out, clerked for a year, went to a law firm and practiced law for less than 2 years. Then he jumped ship to follow Thiel as a venture capitalist apprentice. But he worked for or started 4 firms in 5 years, never staying longer than a year or two at any venture. The only venture he backed for the entire 5 years, AppHarvest went backrupt just after he bailed and jumped ship. He was a critical part of the what made the company go bankrupt. Then he was picked by Trump to run for the Senate and less than 2 years into that gig, he's now running for VP.

He has only stayed long enough at any given gig to know that he isn't very good at it. And then he jumps ship before anyone else finds out he is no good at what he does. He's like a version of the guy from Catch Me If You Can, Frank, Abagnale.

My guess for why he's done the 180 about-face on Trump and been consumed by die-hard conservative views is that he knows that Trump is going senile and he wants to be the one to inherit the MAGA Conspiracy Cartel. He's trying to sell himself as the heir apparent to the Q-Anons, MAGA, Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, AntiSemites, HandMaiden's Tale, Christian Fundamentalist Basket of Deplorables. This is Trump's last hurrah and Vance wants to become the figurehead of the movement.

You gloss over his connections to intel, billionaire neocons, neocon think tanks, Amy and Jed, Axelrod, CNN, his boring fictionalized memoir when he hadn’t done a damn thing in life, NYTimes pumping the book, and a $40M Netflix movie. His placement in public relations in the marines was itself intel adjacent if not intel cover. He’s a Manchurian created in a lab.

I would really, really, really like to know the back story on this. Is he just the luckiest son-of-a-gun in history, to get a plush desk job as an enlisted guy straight out of HS during war time? Everyone I know that enlisted like this got sent right into fighting. Unless someone in basic trainign said "uh, we can't send this guy to the front..." I just DO NOT understand how he got that position. Why don't they save that sh-t for people that have already done a deployment or two, or someone with a short-term disability or pregnancy? This really upends everything I thought I knew about the military.

I’m curious about that too. At the very least though, he would have had to take a vocational aptitude test. It’s not out of the question to imagine that someone who was later able to have the test scores to make Yale Law School a realistic option — could have met the criteria for a cushy desk job a few years earlier. The real question would be determining whether he really was the best person for the job. It also might reflect what he was bad at as well as what he was good at. Another person might have been a good or even better fit for the job — but also had stellar skills in other areas, that then led to a whole different set of jobs compared to Vance. I’m not actually convinced that Vance’s path was this straightforward — just suggesting one way that it could have happened.

You’re assuming an awful lot. He has never revealed his test scores, honors, or school records. Zero evidence he got into Yale with 99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA from OSU.

We don’t even know his senior class rank from his dipshit public high school in Ohio.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened? Nothing. He's someone who jumps from career to career. He never stays at anything long. He doesn't get good at anything before he's off ot he next deal.

He graduated high school, joined the Marines for 4 years. Came back and with the GI bill, did college for 2.5 years, then went to law school for 4 years. He came out, clerked for a year, went to a law firm and practiced law for less than 2 years. Then he jumped ship to follow Thiel as a venture capitalist apprentice. But he worked for or started 4 firms in 5 years, never staying longer than a year or two at any venture. The only venture he backed for the entire 5 years, AppHarvest went backrupt just after he bailed and jumped ship. He was a critical part of the what made the company go bankrupt. Then he was picked by Trump to run for the Senate and less than 2 years into that gig, he's now running for VP.

He has only stayed long enough at any given gig to know that he isn't very good at it. And then he jumps ship before anyone else finds out he is no good at what he does. He's like a version of the guy from Catch Me If You Can, Frank, Abagnale.

My guess for why he's done the 180 about-face on Trump and been consumed by die-hard conservative views is that he knows that Trump is going senile and he wants to be the one to inherit the MAGA Conspiracy Cartel. He's trying to sell himself as the heir apparent to the Q-Anons, MAGA, Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, AntiSemites, HandMaiden's Tale, Christian Fundamentalist Basket of Deplorables. This is Trump's last hurrah and Vance wants to become the figurehead of the movement.

You gloss over his connections to intel, billionaire neocons, neocon think tanks, Amy and Jed, Axelrod, CNN, his boring fictionalized memoir when he hadn’t done a damn thing in life, NYTimes pumping the book, and a $40M Netflix movie. His placement in public relations in the marines was itself intel adjacent if not intel cover. He’s a Manchurian created in a lab.

I would really, really, really like to know the back story on this. Is he just the luckiest son-of-a-gun in history, to get a plush desk job as an enlisted guy straight out of HS during war time? Everyone I know that enlisted like this got sent right into fighting. Unless someone in basic trainign said "uh, we can't send this guy to the front..." I just DO NOT understand how he got that position. Why don't they save that sh-t for people that have already done a deployment or two, or someone with a short-term disability or pregnancy? This really upends everything I thought I knew about the military.

I’m curious about that too. At the very least though, he would have had to take a vocational aptitude test. It’s not out of the question to imagine that someone who was later able to have the test scores to make Yale Law School a realistic option — could have met the criteria for a cushy desk job a few years earlier. The real question would be determining whether he really was the best person for the job. It also might reflect what he was bad at as well as what he was good at. Another person might have been a good or even better fit for the job — but also had stellar skills in other areas, that then led to a whole different set of jobs compared to Vance. I’m not actually convinced that Vance’s path was this straightforward — just suggesting one way that it could have happened.

You’re assuming an awful lot. He has never revealed his test scores, honors, or school records. Zero evidence he got into Yale with 99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA from OSU.

We don’t even know his senior class rank from his dipshit public high school in Ohio.

I am assuming a bit. I’m not assuming “99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA” — so those numbers are all on you.

I am assuming good enough LSAT scores and grades to suggest to admissions that he could do the work at YLS, coupled with being a DEI admit based on his military background and being from a geographically underrepresented state, possibly with a compelling backstory.

I’m also guessing— rather than assuming— that someone capable of getting scores and grades high enough to suggest that he would be successful at YLS would also have had scores on the high side relative to his fellow enlisted peers at the time. I don’t know anything about his grades, scores, or class rank. I also don’t know these details for his fellow enlisted peers. I do know that the vast majority of people who enlist in the Marines don’t end up graduating from YLS — so that suggests higher than average aptitude of some sort, in addition to other relevant variables.

Other stories and paths that account for his cushy job are, of course, also possible.

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Vance’s homosexual mentor was on Joe Rogan today. Thiel is not just Vance’s mentor, he is also a GOP power broker. And Vance is an alleged recent convert to Catholicism.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened? Nothing. He's someone who jumps from career to career. He never stays at anything long. He doesn't get good at anything before he's off ot he next deal.

He graduated high school, joined the Marines for 4 years. Came back and with the GI bill, did college for 2.5 years, then went to law school for 4 years. He came out, clerked for a year, went to a law firm and practiced law for less than 2 years. Then he jumped ship to follow Thiel as a venture capitalist apprentice. But he worked for or started 4 firms in 5 years, never staying longer than a year or two at any venture. The only venture he backed for the entire 5 years, AppHarvest went backrupt just after he bailed and jumped ship. He was a critical part of the what made the company go bankrupt. Then he was picked by Trump to run for the Senate and less than 2 years into that gig, he's now running for VP.

He has only stayed long enough at any given gig to know that he isn't very good at it. And then he jumps ship before anyone else finds out he is no good at what he does. He's like a version of the guy from Catch Me If You Can, Frank, Abagnale.

My guess for why he's done the 180 about-face on Trump and been consumed by die-hard conservative views is that he knows that Trump is going senile and he wants to be the one to inherit the MAGA Conspiracy Cartel. He's trying to sell himself as the heir apparent to the Q-Anons, MAGA, Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, AntiSemites, HandMaiden's Tale, Christian Fundamentalist Basket of Deplorables. This is Trump's last hurrah and Vance wants to become the figurehead of the movement.

You gloss over his connections to intel, billionaire neocons, neocon think tanks, Amy and Jed, Axelrod, CNN, his boring fictionalized memoir when he hadn’t done a damn thing in life, NYTimes pumping the book, and a $40M Netflix movie. His placement in public relations in the marines was itself intel adjacent if not intel cover. He’s a Manchurian created in a lab.

I would really, really, really like to know the back story on this. Is he just the luckiest son-of-a-gun in history, to get a plush desk job as an enlisted guy straight out of HS during war time? Everyone I know that enlisted like this got sent right into fighting. Unless someone in basic trainign said "uh, we can't send this guy to the front..." I just DO NOT understand how he got that position. Why don't they save that sh-t for people that have already done a deployment or two, or someone with a short-term disability or pregnancy? This really upends everything I thought I knew about the military.

I’m curious about that too. At the very least though, he would have had to take a vocational aptitude test. It’s not out of the question to imagine that someone who was later able to have the test scores to make Yale Law School a realistic option — could have met the criteria for a cushy desk job a few years earlier. The real question would be determining whether he really was the best person for the job. It also might reflect what he was bad at as well as what he was good at. Another person might have been a good or even better fit for the job — but also had stellar skills in other areas, that then led to a whole different set of jobs compared to Vance. I’m not actually convinced that Vance’s path was this straightforward — just suggesting one way that it could have happened.

You’re assuming an awful lot. He has never revealed his test scores, honors, or school records. Zero evidence he got into Yale with 99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA from OSU.

We don’t even know his senior class rank from his dipshit public high school in Ohio.

I am assuming a bit. I’m not assuming “99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA” — so those numbers are all on you.

I am assuming good enough LSAT scores and grades to suggest to admissions that he could do the work at YLS, coupled with being a DEI admit based on his military background and being from a geographically underrepresented state, possibly with a compelling backstory.

I’m also guessing— rather than assuming— that someone capable of getting scores and grades high enough to suggest that he would be successful at YLS would also have had scores on the high side relative to his fellow enlisted peers at the time. I don’t know anything about his grades, scores, or class rank. I also don’t know these details for his fellow enlisted peers. I do know that the vast majority of people who enlist in the Marines don’t end up graduating from YLS — so that suggests higher than average aptitude of some sort, in addition to other relevant variables.

Other stories and paths that account for his cushy job are, of course, also possible.

Unconnected white guy YLS applicants need a 99 percentile LSAT score and 4.0 undergrad GPA to even get someone in admissions to look at their app. He not only got in, he bragged he got a full ride. But then he later claimed he had 150k in student loans. Guy is a compulsive liar.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened? Nothing. He's someone who jumps from career to career. He never stays at anything long. He doesn't get good at anything before he's off ot he next deal.

He graduated high school, joined the Marines for 4 years. Came back and with the GI bill, did college for 2.5 years, then went to law school for 4 years. He came out, clerked for a year, went to a law firm and practiced law for less than 2 years. Then he jumped ship to follow Thiel as a venture capitalist apprentice. But he worked for or started 4 firms in 5 years, never staying longer than a year or two at any venture. The only venture he backed for the entire 5 years, AppHarvest went backrupt just after he bailed and jumped ship. He was a critical part of the what made the company go bankrupt. Then he was picked by Trump to run for the Senate and less than 2 years into that gig, he's now running for VP.

He has only stayed long enough at any given gig to know that he isn't very good at it. And then he jumps ship before anyone else finds out he is no good at what he does. He's like a version of the guy from Catch Me If You Can, Frank, Abagnale.

My guess for why he's done the 180 about-face on Trump and been consumed by die-hard conservative views is that he knows that Trump is going senile and he wants to be the one to inherit the MAGA Conspiracy Cartel. He's trying to sell himself as the heir apparent to the Q-Anons, MAGA, Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, AntiSemites, HandMaiden's Tale, Christian Fundamentalist Basket of Deplorables. This is Trump's last hurrah and Vance wants to become the figurehead of the movement.

You gloss over his connections to intel, billionaire neocons, neocon think tanks, Amy and Jed, Axelrod, CNN, his boring fictionalized memoir when he hadn’t done a damn thing in life, NYTimes pumping the book, and a $40M Netflix movie. His placement in public relations in the marines was itself intel adjacent if not intel cover. He’s a Manchurian created in a lab.

I would really, really, really like to know the back story on this. Is he just the luckiest son-of-a-gun in history, to get a plush desk job as an enlisted guy straight out of HS during war time? Everyone I know that enlisted like this got sent right into fighting. Unless someone in basic trainign said "uh, we can't send this guy to the front..." I just DO NOT understand how he got that position. Why don't they save that sh-t for people that have already done a deployment or two, or someone with a short-term disability or pregnancy? This really upends everything I thought I knew about the military.

I’m curious about that too. At the very least though, he would have had to take a vocational aptitude test. It’s not out of the question to imagine that someone who was later able to have the test scores to make Yale Law School a realistic option — could have met the criteria for a cushy desk job a few years earlier. The real question would be determining whether he really was the best person for the job. It also might reflect what he was bad at as well as what he was good at. Another person might have been a good or even better fit for the job — but also had stellar skills in other areas, that then led to a whole different set of jobs compared to Vance. I’m not actually convinced that Vance’s path was this straightforward — just suggesting one way that it could have happened.

You’re assuming an awful lot. He has never revealed his test scores, honors, or school records. Zero evidence he got into Yale with 99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA from OSU.

We don’t even know his senior class rank from his dipshit public high school in Ohio.

I am assuming a bit. I’m not assuming “99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA” — so those numbers are all on you.

I am assuming good enough LSAT scores and grades to suggest to admissions that he could do the work at YLS, coupled with being a DEI admit based on his military background and being from a geographically underrepresented state, possibly with a compelling backstory.

I’m also guessing— rather than assuming— that someone capable of getting scores and grades high enough to suggest that he would be successful at YLS would also have had scores on the high side relative to his fellow enlisted peers at the time. I don’t know anything about his grades, scores, or class rank. I also don’t know these details for his fellow enlisted peers. I do know that the vast majority of people who enlist in the Marines don’t end up graduating from YLS — so that suggests higher than average aptitude of some sort, in addition to other relevant variables.

Other stories and paths that account for his cushy job are, of course, also possible.

Unconnected white guy YLS applicants need a 99 percentile LSAT score and 4.0 undergrad GPA to even get someone in admissions to look at their app. He not only got in, he bragged he got a full ride. But then he later claimed he had 150k in student loans. Guy is a compulsive liar.

He may have been unconnected, but he still had hooks. 4 years as an enlisted marine counts as a hook. And he also comes from an underrepresented state, Ohio. Both of those would allow him to have lower test and GPA scores than other white unconnected guys.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened? Nothing. He's someone who jumps from career to career. He never stays at anything long. He doesn't get good at anything before he's off ot he next deal.

He graduated high school, joined the Marines for 4 years. Came back and with the GI bill, did college for 2.5 years, then went to law school for 4 years. He came out, clerked for a year, went to a law firm and practiced law for less than 2 years. Then he jumped ship to follow Thiel as a venture capitalist apprentice. But he worked for or started 4 firms in 5 years, never staying longer than a year or two at any venture. The only venture he backed for the entire 5 years, AppHarvest went backrupt just after he bailed and jumped ship. He was a critical part of the what made the company go bankrupt. Then he was picked by Trump to run for the Senate and less than 2 years into that gig, he's now running for VP.

He has only stayed long enough at any given gig to know that he isn't very good at it. And then he jumps ship before anyone else finds out he is no good at what he does. He's like a version of the guy from Catch Me If You Can, Frank, Abagnale.

My guess for why he's done the 180 about-face on Trump and been consumed by die-hard conservative views is that he knows that Trump is going senile and he wants to be the one to inherit the MAGA Conspiracy Cartel. He's trying to sell himself as the heir apparent to the Q-Anons, MAGA, Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, AntiSemites, HandMaiden's Tale, Christian Fundamentalist Basket of Deplorables. This is Trump's last hurrah and Vance wants to become the figurehead of the movement.

You gloss over his connections to intel, billionaire neocons, neocon think tanks, Amy and Jed, Axelrod, CNN, his boring fictionalized memoir when he hadn’t done a damn thing in life, NYTimes pumping the book, and a $40M Netflix movie. His placement in public relations in the marines was itself intel adjacent if not intel cover. He’s a Manchurian created in a lab.

I would really, really, really like to know the back story on this. Is he just the luckiest son-of-a-gun in history, to get a plush desk job as an enlisted guy straight out of HS during war time? Everyone I know that enlisted like this got sent right into fighting. Unless someone in basic trainign said "uh, we can't send this guy to the front..." I just DO NOT understand how he got that position. Why don't they save that sh-t for people that have already done a deployment or two, or someone with a short-term disability or pregnancy? This really upends everything I thought I knew about the military.

I’m curious about that too. At the very least though, he would have had to take a vocational aptitude test. It’s not out of the question to imagine that someone who was later able to have the test scores to make Yale Law School a realistic option — could have met the criteria for a cushy desk job a few years earlier. The real question would be determining whether he really was the best person for the job. It also might reflect what he was bad at as well as what he was good at. Another person might have been a good or even better fit for the job — but also had stellar skills in other areas, that then led to a whole different set of jobs compared to Vance. I’m not actually convinced that Vance’s path was this straightforward — just suggesting one way that it could have happened.

You’re assuming an awful lot. He has never revealed his test scores, honors, or school records. Zero evidence he got into Yale with 99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA from OSU.

We don’t even know his senior class rank from his dipshit public high school in Ohio.

I am assuming a bit. I’m not assuming “99 percentile scores and a perfect 4.0 GPA” — so those numbers are all on you.

I am assuming good enough LSAT scores and grades to suggest to admissions that he could do the work at YLS, coupled with being a DEI admit based on his military background and being from a geographically underrepresented state, possibly with a compelling backstory.

I’m also guessing— rather than assuming— that someone capable of getting scores and grades high enough to suggest that he would be successful at YLS would also have had scores on the high side relative to his fellow enlisted peers at the time. I don’t know anything about his grades, scores, or class rank. I also don’t know these details for his fellow enlisted peers. I do know that the vast majority of people who enlist in the Marines don’t end up graduating from YLS — so that suggests higher than average aptitude of some sort, in addition to other relevant variables.

Other stories and paths that account for his cushy job are, of course, also possible.

Unconnected white guy YLS applicants need a 99 percentile LSAT score and 4.0 undergrad GPA to even get someone in admissions to look at their app. He not only got in, he bragged he got a full ride. But then he later claimed he had 150k in student loans. Guy is a compulsive liar.

He may have been unconnected, but he still had hooks. 4 years as an enlisted marine counts as a hook. And he also comes from an underrepresented state, Ohio. Both of those would allow him to have lower test and GPA scores than other white unconnected guys.

I went to YLS and military service is definitely a big plus in admissions and a compelling back story would help too. YLS has weird admissions where all applicants are read and rated by 3 faculty so depending on who reads your app, you can get lucky. But every class has several military admits with credentials typically less than usual. YLS does not give merit aid but he probably got full FA, like I did. As part of FA, you are required to max out federal fknancial aid. For me, I think that was about 75-80K in loans. Probsbly more when he went as he is younger, but I doubt 150K. Yale does give full loan repayment if you do public service but he would not have been eligible for that with his law firm and tech jobs and given his wife’s income and fat clemkship bonus. The clerkship bonus is ow like a half million or something absurd like that..

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Anonymous wrote:"I'm not weird, you're weird."

- JD 'incel until age 28' Vance

Anonymous wrote:This explains so much, notably why he’s so angry and why he’s sinking Trump’s ticket. Americans are instinctively repulsed by ugly losers. "JD Vance" Hamel Bowman Chilukuri has always been a creepy ugly loser. He knows it, we know it. No amount of faux arrogant posture he over practices in the mirror can change that fact. Vance is gonna get decimated by Walz.

Tim Ryan really nailed him on this one. Vance is a man without a core -- he never got over being that kid who just couldn't make it work. Now he will do anything to fill that hole, even taking it from Trump:

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This guy is such a chump. Barbara Kingsolver, author of The Poisonwood Bible (among other books), is now firing shots back.

Pulitzer-winning author Barbara Kingsolver said she felt that it was her duty to tell a different story of Appalachian life than the one that Vance presented in the book [Hillbilly Elegy].

“It used the same old victim-blaming trope. It was like a hero story: ‘I got out of here, I went to Yale,’” Kingsolver said of Vance. “‘But those lazy people, you know, just don't have ambitions. They don’t have brains. That’s why they’re stuck where they are.’ I disagree. And that’s my job, to tell a different story.”

Vance’s has been mired in controversy since its 2016 publication, especially by authors who cover the region. Vance, who writes that Appalachian culture “encourages social decay instead of counteracting it,” says this upbringing is central to his political ideology and thinking.

Many Appalachian authors, like Kingsolver, have worked tirelessly to combat what they feel is a misleading and even harmful depiction of the region. Her novel Demon Copperhead, a fictional window into the same communities, was named one of the New York Times’ best books of the century just days ahead of the Republican National Convention. Last year, it won a Pulitzer Prize.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/16/g-s1-17184/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy-barbara-kingsolver-appalachia

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- JD 'incel until age 28' Vance

There it is. Jady sure is a stand-up guy!

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The weird just keeps sliding into weirder.

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The weird just keeps sliding into weirder.

I mean it’s obviously fake and trolling but still, yuck.

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Nothing weird to see here at all, just a couple people who are pretending to carry around cups of a candidate’s semen.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just shocking to me. Clearly a smart & educated dude; grew up lower-middle class, entered the marines then graduated from Ohio State in only two years, then Yale Law. His wife was a Gates Cambridge Scholar, then attended Yale Law and is a successful lawyer. In his book, he criticized Fox.

Now he’s on Twitter rambling about illegal immigrants and yada yada.

He’s the poster child for a closeted Republican homosexual.

It’s admitted in his book. He thought he was gay until his uncouth granny called him an f-word or some such. He didn’t have any gay tendencies or thoughts after that.

Especially not when he was dressing up in drag in law school. Or hanging out with girls in mens bathrooms, or seeking out a gay billionaire man to mentor him, etc. etc. etc.

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Nothing weird to see here at all, just a couple people who are pretending to carry around cups of a candidate’s semen.