Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

It's not just weird to rent a bike when someone is sitting on it. Depending on who is sitting on the bike at the time, it's a great way to escalate a situation to violence. These guys knew that this woman wouldn't escalate because she was smaller and alone. But if this had been a confrontation with a couple of construction workers or weightlifters? Yeah, these little bullies would have backed down. Or they would have gotten the beating they deserved.

Plus the woman was especially vulnerable because she is pregnant, not that this matters in a world that has more sympathy for house pets than human children.

These men know they can summon a witch trial to condemn any woman they choose to target as a "Karen" these days, and were exercising their power over her. This is pretty twisted.

The second paragraph rings very true to me. It’s just sick. There is almost nothing to do in defense, because too many people are too eager to call any white woman “Karen” and stick to it no matter what.

Classic scapegoating. Nothing unites a fractured society like mutual disdain for women doing something other than being sexy.

But now it’s being done under a scrim of retributive justice even when it’s a total lie.

I made a sarcastic comparison to the boys using a slur as being Emmett Till — and I did so because several people invoked his name to shame this woman. I find that so galling and undignified but it shows the depth of the commitment - people aren’t only enjoying the pile-on, they say they are doing it for a good cause. That’s slightly different, deeper and broader, than scapegoating.

To really stretch the analogy to an uncomfortable place, the people who lynched Emmett Till and other black men often claimed they were doing it for a good cause as well.

People need to be wary of joining any sort of mob, whether in real life or virtually.

Yes this!!

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Yes, this is right. He had already paid for it, she hadn’t but thought she could just physically claim it by sitting on it first. That’s not how it works.

Then why is he covering up the QR code? And even if he did have the ride code, that doesn’t excuse him for physically restraining her (reaching his arm across her body.) She was 5 months or so pregnant - she may not have been able to get off the bike at all the way he was interfering.

NP. Now defend her taking his phone.

She shouldn’t have done that. Of course, he shouldn’t have put his hands on her either.

Agreed.

All this hostility: “now defend that!” But no one ever defended that action.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

It's not just weird to rent a bike when someone is sitting on it. Depending on who is sitting on the bike at the time, it's a great way to escalate a situation to violence. These guys knew that this woman wouldn't escalate because she was smaller and alone. But if this had been a confrontation with a couple of construction workers or weightlifters? Yeah, these little bullies would have backed down. Or they would have gotten the beating they deserved.

Plus the woman was especially vulnerable because she is pregnant, not that this matters in a world that has more sympathy for house pets than human children.

These men know they can summon a witch trial to condemn any woman they choose to target as a "Karen" these days, and were exercising their power over her. This is pretty twisted.

The second paragraph rings very true to me. It’s just sick. There is almost nothing to do in defense, because too many people are too eager to call any white woman “Karen” and stick to it no matter what.

Classic scapegoating. Nothing unites a fractured society like mutual disdain for women doing something other than being sexy.

Hey, you used to be able to call a woman the b word or c word and people would laugh. Now that's not allowed anymore. So "Karen" will have to do

NP. No one ever stopped calling women those names.

There’s just a name now for women who try to walk all over people they think are beneath them. Whether that’s a store manager, a restaurant hostess, or a random teen standing next to the bike he paid for.

Except it's a highly gendered, racialized term that will likely age very poorly. And a thin veneer for misogyny

Lol. Yes, well spotted.

Thanks, appreciate it.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Yes, this is right. He had already paid for it, she hadn’t but thought she could just physically claim it by sitting on it first. That’s not how it works.

Then why is he covering up the QR code? And even if he did have the ride code, that doesn’t excuse him for physically restraining her (reaching his arm across her body.) She was 5 months or so pregnant - she may not have been able to get off the bike at all the way he was interfering.

Those men clearly had no sympathy for her pregnancy. That speaks volumes about them and our deeply sick society, too. They listened to rhetoric dehumanizing people like her, so she was no longer a person to them.

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WTH is wrong with people? So glad I’ve already had my kids. WHY would a grown man argue with an exhausted pregnant woman? I don’t care whose bike it was. Also I hope he did not touch her? I would have gone nuclear if a guy did this to me while pregnant. What happened to holding the door, giving a lady a seat - she is GROWING A PERSON. It’s exhausting and you can’t think clearly. Give the lady a break.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

It's not just weird to rent a bike when someone is sitting on it. Depending on who is sitting on the bike at the time, it's a great way to escalate a situation to violence. These guys knew that this woman wouldn't escalate because she was smaller and alone. But if this had been a confrontation with a couple of construction workers or weightlifters? Yeah, these little bullies would have backed down. Or they would have gotten the beating they deserved.

Plus the woman was especially vulnerable because she is pregnant, not that this matters in a world that has more sympathy for house pets than human children.

These men know they can summon a witch trial to condemn any woman they choose to target as a "Karen" these days, and were exercising their power over her. This is pretty twisted.

The second paragraph rings very true to me. It’s just sick. There is almost nothing to do in defense, because too many people are too eager to call any white woman “Karen” and stick to it no matter what.

Classic scapegoating. Nothing unites a fractured society like mutual disdain for women doing something other than being sexy.

Hey, you used to be able to call a woman the b word or c word and people would laugh. Now that's not allowed anymore. So "Karen" will have to do

NP. No one ever stopped calling women those names.

There’s just a name now for women who try to walk all over people they think are beneath them. Whether that’s a store manager, a restaurant hostess, or a random teen standing next to the bike he paid for.

No, it is a name for women who have been deemed the acceptable casualties of your anger, so you can displace it onto them and leave the actually powerful people alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Yes, this is right. He had already paid for it, she hadn’t but thought she could just physically claim it by sitting on it first. That’s not how it works.

Then why is he covering up the QR code? And even if he did have the ride code, that doesn’t excuse him for physically restraining her (reaching his arm across her body.) She was 5 months or so pregnant - she may not have been able to get off the bike at all the way he was interfering.

Those men clearly had no sympathy for her pregnancy. That speaks volumes about them and our deeply sick society, too. They listened to rhetoric dehumanizing people like her, so she was no longer a person to them.

100%. And this is the problem with the highly racialized language that we see today. For years we were taught we needed to make attempts to see humanity before skin color- now we're being ordered to prioritize skin color before anything else. And when you stop looking at someone as a human, and start seeing them as inherently guilty and sinful because of how you look... you have a recipe for mass levels of abuse and debasement of random humans. It's very sad. And only going to boomerang back

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Anonymous wrote:WTH is wrong with people? So glad I’ve already had my kids. WHY would a grown man argue with an exhausted pregnant woman? I don’t care whose bike it was. Also I hope he did not touch her? I would have gone nuclear if a guy did this to me while pregnant. What happened to holding the door, giving a lady a seat - she is GROWING A PERSON. It’s exhausting and you can’t think clearly. Give the lady a break.

There are certain cultures that prioritize chivalry, and certain ones that dont.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Ok, THAT is not how it works. Just because you have a ride code doesn't mean you are entitled to a specific bike. You have to apply it to the bike to unlock it. Which he does, 20 seconds into the video, when the woman is already sitting on the bike. He could have used his code for a different bike at that station. For whatever reason he believed he was entitled to that specific bike even though another rider was already sitting on it and preparing to rent it.

No one has a ride code that is like "you are entitled to ride Bike XYZ at the Kip Bay station at 6:03pm on Saturday May 13." That's not how ride codes work.

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Anonymous wrote:WTH is wrong with people? So glad I’ve already had my kids. WHY would a grown man argue with an exhausted pregnant woman? I don’t care whose bike it was. Also I hope he did not touch her? I would have gone nuclear if a guy did this to me while pregnant. What happened to holding the door, giving a lady a seat - she is GROWING A PERSON. It’s exhausting and you can’t think clearly. Give the lady a break.

There are certain cultures that prioritize chivalry, and certain ones that dont.

Given the diverse mob pile on, I'd say the culture that doesn't value care for pregnant women and their babies is American culture.

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Anonymous wrote:WTH is wrong with people? So glad I’ve already had my kids. WHY would a grown man argue with an exhausted pregnant woman? I don’t care whose bike it was. Also I hope he did not touch her? I would have gone nuclear if a guy did this to me while pregnant. What happened to holding the door, giving a lady a seat - she is GROWING A PERSON. It’s exhausting and you can’t think clearly. Give the lady a break.

There are certain cultures that prioritize chivalry, and certain ones that dont.

And the culture of being a teenage boy is usually not one of those that do.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Ok, THAT is not how it works. Just because you have a ride code doesn't mean you are entitled to a specific bike. You have to apply it to the bike to unlock it. Which he does, 20 seconds into the video, when the woman is already sitting on the bike. He could have used his code for a different bike at that station. For whatever reason he believed he was entitled to that specific bike even though another rider was already sitting on it and preparing to rent it.

No one has a ride code that is like "you are entitled to ride Bike XYZ at the Kip Bay station at 6:03pm on Saturday May 13." That's not how ride codes work.

Yes, it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Yes, this is right. He had already paid for it, she hadn’t but thought she could just physically claim it by sitting on it first. That’s not how it works.

Then why is he covering up the QR code? And even if he did have the ride code, that doesn’t excuse him for physically restraining her (reaching his arm across her body.) She was 5 months or so pregnant - she may not have been able to get off the bike at all the way he was interfering.

NP. Now defend her taking his phone.

She shouldn’t have done that. Of course, he shouldn’t have put his hands on her either.

Sheesh, 50 pages of round the rosie. He didn't put his hands on her, she put her hands on him.

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Are the boys teenagers?

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Anonymous wrote:Who are all these people defending her? Her behavior suggests she’s guilty AF.

Guilty of what? Being a woman and standing up for herself against a pack of bullies?

Fake crying and calling for help because she was on a bike someone else had reserved.

PP you need to go back a few pages and read the posters explaining how to rent a CitiBike, and how he didn't rent it (by holding his phone against the reader between the handlebars) until about 20 seconds into the exchange, and all the while she was already sitting on it.

That’s not how it works. He had a RIDE CODE he had purchased on his phone for a bike at that particular station. That unlocks the bike. That’s what he was showing on his phone. She totally tried to nab a bike she hadn’t yet paid for. He had—it was his!

Yes, this is right. He had already paid for it, she hadn’t but thought she could just physically claim it by sitting on it first. That’s not how it works.

Then why is he covering up the QR code? And even if he did have the ride code, that doesn’t excuse him for physically restraining her (reaching his arm across her body.) She was 5 months or so pregnant - she may not have been able to get off the bike at all the way he was interfering.

NP. Now defend her taking his phone.

She shouldn’t have done that. Of course, he shouldn’t have put his hands on her either.

Agreed.

All this hostility: “now defend that!” But no one ever defended that action.

He knew he could get away with it because women tend to shy away from physical, rather than verbal, confrontation.