Comey is out!

[Anonymous]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-wanted-more-resources-russia-investigation-238216

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/comey-asked-more-prosecutor-resources-russia-probe-n758176

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
And, let’s look at what the WaPo wrote.........

Last week, then-FBI Director James B. Comey requested more resources from the Justice Department for his bureau’s investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, according to two officials with knowledge of the discussion.

Comey, who was fired by President Trump on Tuesday, made the request in a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and later briefed the chair and Democratic ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee on Monday, the officials said.

So, not only is the Post saying a request was made.... they said it was made from the very person who is denying he is aware of such a request.
As I said, it was a BS story.

So, TBH, I don't care much about the details of this story. But I've been finding the pattern of information coming out of the Administration disturbing. We have a situation where the AG, when directly questioned during his confirmation hearings, apparently just "forgot" about multiple meetings he had with Russians during the campaign. And now we have the DAG saying he "is not aware" whether a request for more resources was made in a meeting that he apparently attended. This is very odd. If he was at the meeting, he ought be able to deny that the request was made in his presence. It's strange that he doesn't do that, and his phrasing leaves open the possibility that (1) the request was made in his presence but he forgot, or (2) the request was made at another time.

You can call me a partisan if you want, but I would argue that it's the WH and the rest of the Administration that has demonstrated itself to be untrustworthy. I tend to believe that Rosenstein would not state an outright falsehood. But at this point, if there is any wiggle room at all coming out of a statement from an Administration official, I don't know how I can believe anything but the worst about the intention behind doing so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-wanted-more-resources-russia-investigation-238216

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/comey-asked-more-prosecutor-resources-russia-probe-n758176

And, more fake news. Not sure what your point was in posting only links, pp. This post should be deleted since you are violating the rules of this site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And, let’s look at what the WaPo wrote.........

Last week, then-FBI Director James B. Comey requested more resources from the Justice Department for his bureau’s investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, according to two officials with knowledge of the discussion.

Comey, who was fired by President Trump on Tuesday, made the request in a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and later briefed the chair and Democratic ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee on Monday, the officials said.

So, not only is the Post saying a request was made.... they said it was made from the very person who is denying he is aware of such a request.
As I said, it was a BS story.

So, TBH, I don't care much about the details of this story. But I've been finding the pattern of information coming out of the Administration disturbing. We have a situation where the AG, when directly questioned during his confirmation hearings, apparently just "forgot" about multiple meetings he had with Russians during the campaign. And now we have the DAG saying he "is not aware" whether a request for more resources was made in a meeting that he apparently attended. This is very odd. If he was at the meeting, he ought be able to deny that the request was made in his presence. It's strange that he doesn't do that, and his phrasing leaves open the possibility that (1) the request was made in his presence but he forgot, or (2) the request was made at another time.

You can call me a partisan if you want, but I would argue that it's the WH and the rest of the Administration that has demonstrated itself to be untrustworthy. I tend to believe that Rosenstein would not state an outright falsehood. But at this point, if there is any wiggle room at all coming out of a statement from an Administration official, I don't know how I can believe anything but the worst about the intention behind doing so.

Yep. I call you partisan. You are following the lead of other Democrats who were present at the meeting. They didn’t like what they heard because it didn’t fit their narrative. So sorry.
And, I continue to question the media when they reference “anonymous” or “unnamed” sources.
Stories like the one I posted lead so many of us to distrust the media. With good cause.

BTW - Rosenstein also said that he stands by the letter he wrote about Comey. His words.... "I wrote it. I believe it. I stand by it.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-wanted-more-resources-russia-investigation-238216

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/comey-asked-more-prosecutor-resources-russia-probe-n758176

And, more fake news. Not sure what your point was in posting only links, pp. This post should be deleted since you are violating the rules of this site.

The links say that Comey wanted more prosecutors, not more resources, as WaPo initially reported. He got them, too. McCabe said that he had enough people, since Comey had requested them and got them.

Now explain to me why this is important. IMO, it's not important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-wanted-more-resources-russia-investigation-238216

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/comey-asked-more-prosecutor-resources-russia-probe-n758176

And, more fake news. Not sure what your point was in posting only links, pp. This post should be deleted since you are violating the rules of this site.

The links say that Comey wanted more prosecutors, not more resources, as WaPo initially reported. He got them, too. McCabe said that he had enough people, since Comey had requested them and got them.

Now explain to me why this is important. IMO, it's not important.

It’s not important. At all. Except, the liberal media has reported misinformation along these lines. I don’t recall WaPo or NYTimes writing a retraction to their initial story, implying that Trump fired Comey because he was “upping” his focus on the Russia investigation. I may have missed the retractions........but for days following their false stories, the administration was slammed.
And, I will say again..... the false story relied on “unnamed sources.” Total BS.
So, that is why many of us are reluctant to believe any of the stories from “unnamed sources.” There is no accountability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
BTW - Rosenstein also said that he stands by the letter he wrote about Comey. His words.... "I wrote it. I believe it. I stand by it.”

Rosenstein also said his memo was internal and not a justification for firing.

I'm sure he believes everything he wrote. Who cares? Trump was already planning to fire Comey, and said that he did because of the Russia thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And, let’s look at what the WaPo wrote.........

Last week, then-FBI Director James B. Comey requested more resources from the Justice Department for his bureau’s investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, according to two officials with knowledge of the discussion.

Comey, who was fired by President Trump on Tuesday, made the request in a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and later briefed the chair and Democratic ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee on Monday, the officials said.

So, not only is the Post saying a request was made.... they said it was made from the very person who is denying he is aware of such a request.
As I said, it was a BS story.

So, TBH, I don't care much about the details of this story. But I've been finding the pattern of information coming out of the Administration disturbing. We have a situation where the AG, when directly questioned during his confirmation hearings, apparently just "forgot" about multiple meetings he had with Russians during the campaign. And now we have the DAG saying he "is not aware" whether a request for more resources was made in a meeting that he apparently attended. This is very odd. If he was at the meeting, he ought be able to deny that the request was made in his presence. It's strange that he doesn't do that, and his phrasing leaves open the possibility that (1) the request was made in his presence but he forgot, or (2) the request was made at another time.

You can call me a partisan if you want, but I would argue that it's the WH and the rest of the Administration that has demonstrated itself to be untrustworthy. I tend to believe that Rosenstein would not state an outright falsehood. But at this point, if there is any wiggle room at all coming out of a statement from an Administration official, I don't know how I can believe anything but the worst about the intention behind doing so.

Yep. I call you partisan. You are following the lead of other Democrats who were present at the meeting. They didn’t like what they heard because it didn’t fit their narrative. So sorry.
And, I continue to question the media when they reference “anonymous” or “unnamed” sources.
Stories like the one I posted lead so many of us to distrust the media. With good cause.

BTW - Rosenstein also said that he stands by the letter he wrote about Comey. His words.... "I wrote it. I believe it. I stand by it.”

So I see you have no interest in directly responding to the substance of what I wrote. As I stated, I'm not all that invested in the details of this story. But I'm suspicious that Rosenstein did not outright refute that a request for additional resources was made in his presence. You are using the fact that he was supposedly at the meeting where the request was made to interpret his statement as a clear indication that it wasn't. I'm saying that if he was at the meeting, why is he using such vague language as "I'm not aware"?

Can you explain that to me? Otherwise, I will take you as being knee-jerk anti-MSM for no reason. The MSM articles cited indicated the information came from "unnamed sources". Intelligent readers should understand what that means. Or are you suggesting that WaPo made the story up whole cloth?

[Anonymous]

Everybody knows Trump is not above using his position to get people to do what he wants. This is what happens when you vote for someone who has paid off politicians.

Comey knew Trump was trying to buddy buddy up to him so that Comey would be more favorable to Trump, so much so that he tried to hide from Trump behind a curtain to avoid having to talk to him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-tried-hide-curtains-white-house-gathering-avoid-trump-report-125823269.html

[Anonymous]

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

--Upton Sinclair

[Anonymous]

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--George Orwell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-wanted-more-resources-russia-investigation-238216

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/comey-asked-more-prosecutor-resources-russia-probe-n758176

And, more fake news. Not sure what your point was in posting only links, pp. This post should be deleted since you are violating the rules of this site.

A Trump supporter who is a stickler for the rules. I didn't think that was possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rosenstein has released his opening statement from his congressional briefings. He said that because of last summer, he believed that Comey needed to go and wrote that in his memo. He says that he learned on May 8 that Trump intended to replace Comey and wanted his input. So Rosenstein wrote the memo, and Trump immediately fired Comey the next day on May 9. After several days of mixed messages, Trump said that he fired Comey because of the Russia thing.

https://mobile.twitter.com/politiCOHEN_/status/865592707187523585

He also made it clear that Comey did not ask for more resources for the Russia investigation. That was indeed fake news.

I found an article saying that Comey requested and received more prosecutors. Whether that was also fake news, or whether Rosenstein and McCabe didn't know or didn't understand the question, I don't know. I'm also not that concerned. It may have been fake news or just a minor detail. Either way, not important. (Some people tried to make it seem important, but they've dropped it already.)

This doesn't seem to reflect well on Rosenstein, imo. He wrote a negative internal memory that was immediately and unsurprisingly used as an initial justification of firing the Director of the FBI. This makes him look like a "survivor".

It also doesn't reflect well on Trump. Fortunately, Mueller is highly respected by everyone, of both parties, and the general public. Somebody needs to be, in this mess.

It really sounds like Rosenstein's covering his ass. "But, but, but..." Has he ever expressed his views of Comey's actions publicly? What he said sounded like a private opinion, pretty devoid of legalities. I'm not a lawyer, but I thought his memo sounded like it was written by one of his clerks, very amateur.

Rosenstein has sort of redeemed himself by naming Mueller, but that memo he "wrote" is out in public, tied to Trump's schizophrenic letter forever more. Not good for Rosenstein. His reputation is blighted forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rosenstein has released his opening statement from his congressional briefings. He said that because of last summer, he believed that Comey needed to go and wrote that in his memo. He says that he learned on May 8 that Trump intended to replace Comey and wanted his input. So Rosenstein wrote the memo, and Trump immediately fired Comey the next day on May 9. After several days of mixed messages, Trump said that he fired Comey because of the Russia thing.

https://mobile.twitter.com/politiCOHEN_/status/865592707187523585

He also made it clear that Comey did not ask for more resources for the Russia investigation. That was indeed fake news.

To be clear, neither he nor any senior leadership at FBI can recall that there was a request for additional resources. I don't know the original source for that assertion.

It was the WaPo and “anonymous sources.” TBH - it is because of stories like this that are totally false and rely on unnamed sources that make many of us totally skeptical of the media. It is happening way too frequently.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/10/comey-sought-more-money-for-russia-probe-days-before-he-was-fired-officials-say/?utm_term=.2030a104b707

If you have proof that this story is "totally false" where is it?

It's based on anonymous sources, as is the Comey memo story, but most people seem to think that's credible.

My mother always told me "Don't believe everything you read in the newspaper." But she never said, "Don't believe the newspaper at all."

Most of the news as reported by reputable news organizations like the Post, is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-wanted-more-resources-russia-investigation-238216

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/comey-asked-more-prosecutor-resources-russia-probe-n758176

And, more fake news. Not sure what your point was in posting only links, pp. This post should be deleted since you are violating the rules of this site.

A Trump supporter who is a stickler for the rules. I didn't think that was possible.

A Trump supporter who can't comprehend the rules is more like it.