Jimmy Kimmel show cancelled.

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So offhand, who should get fired for this lie then? Trump, Vance, Patel, Cox, the entirety of the RW media of course?

It is entirely possible he is left wing AND did not work with any left wing groups.

That doesn’t make him any less of a left wing violent criminal.

don't know his view but there are far more proven right wing nuts out there shooting people. What are you going to do about it?

100% and something does need to be done about it.

Yes, and that’s why this needs to go to trial. We need some digging into the right wing violence plaguing the country and who is funding it.

Interesting comment. Someone shot up an ABC affiliate in California. Fortunately nobody was hurt. It wasn’t a right winger.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

lol
Gutfeld is still airing.
Kimmel isn’t.
Who is butthurt???

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So offhand, who should get fired for this lie then? Trump, Vance, Patel, Cox, the entirety of the RW media of course?

It is entirely possible he is left wing AND did not work with any left wing groups.

That doesn’t make him any less of a left wing violent criminal.

don't know his view but there are far more proven right wing nuts out there shooting people. What are you going to do about it?

100% and something does need to be done about it.

Yes, and that’s why this needs to go to trial. We need some digging into the right wing violence plaguing the country and who is funding it.

Interesting comment. Someone shot up an ABC affiliate in California. Fortunately nobody was hurt. It wasn’t a right winger.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people trying to make this a right wing or left wing thing are missing reality. This was a terminally online young person who grew up in a Mormon red area and had some divergent sexual impulses - possibly because he was online all the time. All his bullet statements are related to video games as well. This kid lived on the internet.

Che didn’t write manifestos about furries. Nor did furries appear in Mein Kampf. That is a very online phenomenon.

Adolescents going through the formative years are so vulnerable to these online silos. I think this kid was messed up by 4chan and porn

The internet is a dangerous place for adolescents. And I suspect that’s going to be the norm going forward - lost children that are terminally online and acting out.

Ultimately, Charlie Kirk was killed by Silicon Valley.

+100000

He was vulnerable due to mental health issues. We see somewhat odd and quirky kids like him beginning to develop these obsessive internet interests in middle school.

What about his lover? He was romantically involved with a man transitioning into a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

lol
Gutfeld is still airing.
Kimmel isn’t.
Who is butthurt???

DP, never heard of Gutfeld.

Kimmel's suspension has cost Disney over $3 billion. I'd say one of them is more impactful at the moment.

The outrage over his comments betrays an ignorant populace, both willfully and objectively. MAGA lacks intellectual curiosity and thinks it can somehow supplement with moral superiority, which it doesn't actually have. It's a weird thing to observe from the outside. If interpreting Kimmel's commentary was an SAT question, most would fail.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

Greg Gutfeld's show Gutfeld! is the top-rated late-night program, consistently outperforming traditional late-night shows like The Late Show with Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel Live! in total viewers and the 25-54 demo. For Q2 2025, for example, Gutfeld! averaged 3.289 million total viewers, while also leading in the 18-49 demo, showing significant growth over the previous year.
Recent Ratings Highlights
Q2 2025: Gutfeld! averaged 3.289 million total viewers and 238,000 in the demo, marking a 31.5% and 24% increase, respectively, compared to the same period last year.
August 2025: Gutfeld's appearance on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon coincided with a multi-year high in ratings for the Fallon show, which also saw Gutfeld's segment become its most-viewed video on the show's YouTube channel.
Overall Performance: Gutfeld! has demonstrated consistent audience growth since its launch in April 2021, increasing its viewership by 81% in total viewers and 37% in the 25-54 demo by September 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

Greg Gutfeld's show Gutfeld! is the top-rated late-night program, consistently outperforming traditional late-night shows like The Late Show with Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel Live! in total viewers and the 25-54 demo. For Q2 2025, for example, Gutfeld! averaged 3.289 million total viewers, while also leading in the 18-49 demo, showing significant growth over the previous year.
Recent Ratings Highlights
Q2 2025: Gutfeld! averaged 3.289 million total viewers and 238,000 in the demo, marking a 31.5% and 24% increase, respectively, compared to the same period last year.
August 2025: Gutfeld's appearance on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon coincided with a multi-year high in ratings for the Fallon show, which also saw Gutfeld's segment become its most-viewed video on the show's YouTube channel.
Overall Performance: Gutfeld! has demonstrated consistent audience growth since its launch in April 2021, increasing its viewership by 81% in total viewers and 37% in the 25-54 demo by September 2024.

Go Greg! Not sure how this is relevant to the issue of the First Amendment and abuse of power by the executive branch?

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

lol
Gutfeld is still airing.
Kimmel isn’t.
Who is butthurt???

DP, never heard of Gutfeld.

Kimmel's suspension has cost Disney over $3 billion. I'd say one of them is more impactful at the moment.

The outrage over his comments betrays an ignorant populace, both willfully and objectively. MAGA lacks intellectual curiosity and thinks it can somehow supplement with moral superiority, which it doesn't actually have. It's a weird thing to observe from the outside. If interpreting Kimmel's commentary was an SAT question, most would fail.

Disney’s market cap is ~205 billion. This 1% fluctuation is hardly a concern for investors. It makes a “feel good” meme for liberals, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

lol
Gutfeld is still airing.
Kimmel isn’t.
Who is butthurt???

DP, never heard of Gutfeld.

Kimmel's suspension has cost Disney over $3 billion. I'd say one of them is more impactful at the moment.

The outrage over his comments betrays an ignorant populace, both willfully and objectively. MAGA lacks intellectual curiosity and thinks it can somehow supplement with moral superiority, which it doesn't actually have. It's a weird thing to observe from the outside. If interpreting Kimmel's commentary was an SAT question, most would fail.

Disney’s market cap is ~205 billion. This 1% fluctuation is hardly a concern for investors. It makes a “feel good” meme for liberals, though.

Is that why Sinclair walked back their idea to air the Charlie Kirk Memorial in Jimmy's slot last night and instead played Family Feud? Why would they do that if $$$ wasn't a concern?

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Who gives a sh@t? He is an entertainer. He gets to decide who to dump on, not you.

Should I get to tell right wing entertainers how they should ply their craft?

What right wing entertainers have shows on Disney?

At least you are being honest: Kimmel is a left wing entertainer. He tells his hilarious jokes in a partisan manner.

+1 Of course, lefties love him! Very partisan.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

lol
Gutfeld is still airing.
Kimmel isn’t.
Who is butthurt???

DP, never heard of Gutfeld.

Kimmel's suspension has cost Disney over $3 billion. I'd say one of them is more impactful at the moment.

The outrage over his comments betrays an ignorant populace, both willfully and objectively. MAGA lacks intellectual curiosity and thinks it can somehow supplement with moral superiority, which it doesn't actually have. It's a weird thing to observe from the outside. If interpreting Kimmel's commentary was an SAT question, most would fail.

A company doesn't lose money when it's stock value changes. The investors who own it lose potential value if they sell now versus prior. But most people can just hold onto the stocks and wait for it to go back up.

As for actual revenue loss, that's hard to know until Disney releases quarterly reports.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

And that is why his ratings suck. There is so much material on the left he could take advantage of.
Greg Gutfeld is able to tell jokes on both sides even though he is supposedly conservative. His ratings are great.

The truth emerges. MAGA is butthurt.

Too bad.

So sad.

lol
Gutfeld is still airing.
Kimmel isn’t.
Who is butthurt???

DP, never heard of Gutfeld.

Kimmel's suspension has cost Disney over $3 billion. I'd say one of them is more impactful at the moment.

The outrage over his comments betrays an ignorant populace, both willfully and objectively. MAGA lacks intellectual curiosity and thinks it can somehow supplement with moral superiority, which it doesn't actually have. It's a weird thing to observe from the outside. If interpreting Kimmel's commentary was an SAT question, most would fail.

It's obvious that your feelings of moral superiority are intact! (Gag!)