Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties. If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee. |
^ Also, if I vote Biden, I’m going to be peeved if we get a President Harris. It would be the biggest, I told you so (that we could’ve had someone with executive experience like Whitmer). |
You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down? |
Legal issues. |
They've been trying to get Trump on "legal" issues for 7 years and it hasn't worked. What makes you think it's going to work this time? At some point, you have to ask yourself "maybe the guy really didn't do anything at all and we are just watching lawfare play out?" |
His base doesn’t care about those. |
Really? The guy has lost more cases than I can count. |
Is he in jail? Has he paid ludicrous fines? Are cases in appeal? Have many of the cases been overturned? |
Romney has already publicly stated he would not take any actions that helped get Trump into the White House, and has been lobbying Manchin not to run. |
If Romney was at the top of the ticket, he would be more likely to get Republican/Independent votes than Democrats support him. That would hurt Trump not help him. Most voters do not cast their vote based on the VP nominee with perhaps some exceptions (LBJ helping JFK in Texas). Who knows what would happen in a 5-candidate race (Biden, Trump, Kennedy, West, Romney)? Right now, Trump is on track to win. |
He was never criminal prosecuted before the latest cases, which haven’t gone to trial yet, so he could not have gone to jail. But he’s paid huge amounts in damages after being found liable for everything from rape to defamation to fraud. |
And let’s not forget the Trump Org was criminally convicted and fined for tax fraud. |
If you believe a poll a year out that says that 22% of African Americans will vote for Trump and so will 40% of the youth. Really. Really. So many of you are working so hard to get Trump back in office. You really love authoritarianism. |