MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

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Anonymous wrote:I'm calling it. This policy is BS. Dr. Gayles spent the past year insisting in person schooling is unsafe, now he is digging and going against the CDC and the AAP who recommend policies that actually let kids go to school. And the BOE and the Council will go for it because they have spent the past year trusting this man, who may have done some smart things but really. Kids need to be in school. We'd have more options now if he had made some real effort bring kids back last year before the last second

The CDC also recommends many safety precautions including regular testing which isn't being done. There are zero efforts beyond masking to keep our kids safe.

That is not an excuse for creating a policy that discourages kids from going to the nurse when they need care and encourages kids that want to cause trouble to say they have a "headache". This is the creation of a madman who is right to resign his position. He needs a break.

No one is discouraging kids. If you as a parent discourage your kid from receiving care that’s on you (and makes you a pos).

Kids are not dumb. They know they are sending their entire class home for having a headache. Many are not going to want to be that kid. It's not like it will be a secret. Since we are namecalling, you're a POS if you think kids just do what their parents tell them and aren't influenced by social norms.

We are talking about elementary students here. That is not how they operate. No one is going to be too scared to go to the nurse and on the flip side, no one is going to make up symptoms to get their classmates out of class. The MCPS parents are a hysterical bunch. Have you even met your own kids? They are actually very chill in comparison.

Good god, my kid is too scared or shy to see the nurse on a normal day, let alone under these circumstances. Do you even have kids?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?

There were going to be parents sending in sick kids anyway. If your kid comes to school coughing without a note, should they be coming to school? If they are sick to their stomach they should be at home resting.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

How many students will have to stay home in Zoom school, per each "spread" prevented? If 10 students have to stay home in Zoom school unnecessarily, is that too many? How about 20? 50? 100?

If they are negative they come back. Students who are positive should stay home.

But it could take days to get a negative result. I know that my family would do everything possible to get a same day result but many won’t/can’t. And just wait until the holidays- test results took forever last year.

If MCPS insists on doing this they need to be providing a testing option with a quick turnaround.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?

There were going to be parents sending in sick kids anyway. If your kid comes to school coughing without a note, should they be coming to school? If they are sick to their stomach they should be at home resting.

Of course they should- but be honest, are you going to tell the school your kid will be staying home for an upset stomach, knowing it will get their class sent home? Or are you going to be vague or use another reason while you await covid test results?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

How many students will have to stay home in Zoom school, per each "spread" prevented? If 10 students have to stay home in Zoom school unnecessarily, is that too many? How about 20? 50? 100?

If they are negative they come back. Students who are positive should stay home.

If who is negative? We are talking about students who are sent home to Zoom school based on having been in the classroom with somebody who had a cough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom

I like this policy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?

There were going to be parents sending in sick kids anyway. If your kid comes to school coughing without a note, should they be coming to school? If they are sick to their stomach they should be at home resting.

Of course they should- but be honest, are you going to tell the school your kid will be staying home for an upset stomach, knowing it will get their class sent home? Or are you going to be vague or use another reason while you await covid test results?

Related to this, do you need to tell the school why exactly your kid will be staying home? And who do you report the symptoms to- the classroom teacher? Or the school nurse? None of this has been outlined to us. Is this really mostly for kids who get sick IN school and need to go to the nurse’s office?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

How many students will have to stay home in Zoom school, per each "spread" prevented? If 10 students have to stay home in Zoom school unnecessarily, is that too many? How about 20? 50? 100?

If they are negative they come back. Students who are positive should stay home.

But it could take days to get a negative result. I know that my family would do everything possible to get a same day result but many won’t/can’t. And just wait until the holidays- test results took forever last year.

If MCPS insists on doing this they need to be providing a testing option with a quick turnaround.

Same day testing can return results in one day so can your pediatrician. If your kid is sick it’s your parental responsibility to get them tested not the schools. Be honest if mcps did testing people would complain about that too. Parents would argue it wasn’t rapid enough, accurate enough, hurt too much, taking too long, need independent verification, and insert every other complaint. It isn’t hard to get a rapid pcr and move on with going back to school.

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Same day testing can return results in one day so can your pediatrician. If your kid is sick it’s your parental responsibility to get them tested not the schools. Be honest if mcps did testing people would complain about that too. Parents would argue it wasn’t rapid enough, accurate enough, hurt too much, taking too long, need independent verification, and insert every other complaint. It isn’t hard to get a rapid pcr and move on with going back to school.

OK, but what about the parents who do not uphold this responsibility? The whole class just stays home for 10 days? If the goal is to get unexposed kids back out of quarantine and into school as fast as possible, then you don't achieve that goal by saying, "It's the parents' responsibility!!!!" You achieve it by making it as easy as possible for anyone who needs a test to get tested. And the best way to do that, for MCPS students, is for MCPS to provide the tests.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

How many students will have to stay home in Zoom school, per each "spread" prevented? If 10 students have to stay home in Zoom school unnecessarily, is that too many? How about 20? 50? 100?

If they are negative they come back. Students who are positive should stay home.

But it could take days to get a negative result. I know that my family would do everything possible to get a same day result but many won’t/can’t. And just wait until the holidays- test results took forever last year.

If MCPS insists on doing this they need to be providing a testing option with a quick turnaround.

Same day testing can return results in one day so can your pediatrician. If your kid is sick it’s your parental responsibility to get them tested not the schools. Be honest if mcps did testing people would complain about that too. Parents would argue it wasn’t rapid enough, accurate enough, hurt too much, taking too long, need independent verification, and insert every other complaint. It isn’t hard to get a rapid pcr and move on with going back to school.

Well report back and let us know how it goes in your class. You’re dependent on 20+ other families making the same decisions and jumping through the same hoops as you. My pediatrician does not return the results the same day but we have other options that are covered by our insurance. But I’m not under any illusion that those options are realistic for lower income families who perhaps don’t have the same insurance coverage or would not be able to cover the out of pocket cost for same day testing.

Maybe you’re at a W school and don’t have to worry about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.

I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom

I like this policy!

Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?

There were going to be parents sending in sick kids anyway. If your kid comes to school coughing without a note, should they be coming to school? If they are sick to their stomach they should be at home resting.

Of course they should- but be honest, are you going to tell the school your kid will be staying home for an upset stomach, knowing it will get their class sent home? Or are you going to be vague or use another reason while you await covid test results?

You don’t even have to tell the school. If little Johnny is holding his stomach chances are the teacher or nurse notices and gives you a call with a note to get tested. Yes I would keep my kid home if they complained of upset stomach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

How many students will have to stay home in Zoom school, per each "spread" prevented? If 10 students have to stay home in Zoom school unnecessarily, is that too many? How about 20? 50? 100?

If they are negative they come back. Students who are positive should stay home.

But it could take days to get a negative result. I know that my family would do everything possible to get a same day result but many won’t/can’t. And just wait until the holidays- test results took forever last year.

If MCPS insists on doing this they need to be providing a testing option with a quick turnaround.

Same day testing can return results in one day so can your pediatrician. If your kid is sick it’s your parental responsibility to get them tested not the schools. Be honest if mcps did testing people would complain about that too. Parents would argue it wasn’t rapid enough, accurate enough, hurt too much, taking too long, need independent verification, and insert every other complaint. It isn’t hard to get a rapid pcr and move on with going back to school.

Well report back and let us know how it goes in your class. You’re dependent on 20+ other families making the same decisions and jumping through the same hoops as you. My pediatrician does not return the results the same day but we have other options that are covered by our insurance. But I’m not under any illusion that those options are realistic for lower income families who perhaps don’t have the same insurance coverage or would not be able to cover the out of pocket cost for same day testing.

Maybe you’re at a W school and don’t have to worry about that.

I already went through it. Results back in a day class did not have to quarantine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?

The positivity rate in the county is around 3%. So the vast majority of the time it will be something else. This policy just does not make sense given the current transmission rate in the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.

If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.

Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...

Stopping the spread? Yes

We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?

There were going to be parents sending in sick kids anyway. If your kid comes to school coughing without a note, should they be coming to school? If they are sick to their stomach they should be at home resting.

Of course they should- but be honest, are you going to tell the school your kid will be staying home for an upset stomach, knowing it will get their class sent home? Or are you going to be vague or use another reason while you await covid test results?

You don’t even have to tell the school. If little Johnny is holding his stomach chances are the teacher or nurse notices and gives you a call with a note to get tested. Yes I would keep my kid home if they complained of upset stomach.

You don’t have to report if your kid will be absent? Ok that is good to know. I always keep my kids gone for things like this- I just don’t want to unnecessarily send other kids home.