MCPS will now send kids home for ten days based on symptoms only

Anonymous
*home not gone!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way.
Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom


I like this policy!


Why?


Vaccinated students are in control of their own destiny and not at the mercy of a "cougher" getting tested. Their ES's are interpreting close contacts with seating charts. It's a good balance across competing priorities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way.
Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom


I like this policy!


Why?


Vaccinated students are in control of their own destiny and not at the mercy of a "cougher" getting tested. Their ES's are interpreting close contacts with seating charts. It's a good balance across competing priorities.


Agree
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


If by sabotage you mean hold people accountable for sickness then yes. People should be getting tested so schools can stay open.


Of course, you're holding everyone else in the quarantined class "accountable" as well...


Stopping the spread? Yes


We have no idea if this policy will do anything meaningful to stop the spread. I think it’s actually going to have a chilling affect on parents being honest about their kids symptoms. Will anyone be tracking the data? If MCPS realizes that, 9 times out of 10, a kid sick to their stomach does not have Covid, will they re-evaluate?


Common sense here. You keep your kid home and call the school like you should be doing already.

There were going to be parents sending in sick kids anyway. If your kid comes to school coughing without a note, should they be coming to school? If they are sick to their stomach they should be at home resting.


Of course they should- but be honest, are you going to tell the school your kid will be staying home for an upset stomach, knowing it will get their class sent home? Or are you going to be vague or use another reason while you await covid test results?


You don’t even have to tell the school. If little Johnny is holding his stomach chances are the teacher or nurse notices and gives you a call with a note to get tested. Yes I would keep my kid home if they complained of upset stomach.


You don’t have to report if your kid will be absent? Ok that is good to know. I always keep my kids gone for things like this- I just don’t want to unnecessarily send other kids home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way.
Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom


I like this policy!


Why?

NP here. Because this policy means that fully vaccinated students without symptoms are not dependent on a symptomatic student getting a negative test result in order to return to class.

I wish the schools and health department would just coordinate and proactively identify who is vaccinated and who isn't. It's already in the state immunization record database, and the school nurses already check vaccination records. Start with knowing who isn't vaccinated, and focus on them for contact tracing. And follow up with targeted information about how to get vaccinated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way.
Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom


I like this policy!


Why?


Vaccinated students are in control of their own destiny and not at the mercy of a "cougher" getting tested. Their ES's are interpreting close contacts with seating charts. It's a good balance across competing priorities.


Is that really what’s happening though? Our ES classes have assigned seats but it seems that a lot of ESs are still interpreting “close contacts” as the entire class. That’s what I’m worried about- if this is really only an issue at my kindergartener’s table of three kids, then I’m ok with it. But if they’re still going to send everyone home when a kid across the room coughs, it’s not sustainable. Any teacher will tell you that any given day during cold/flu season, someone is absent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way.
Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom


I like this policy!


Why?

NP here. Because this policy means that fully vaccinated students without symptoms are not dependent on a symptomatic student getting a negative test result in order to return to class.

I wish the schools and health department would just coordinate and proactively identify who is vaccinated and who isn't. It's already in the state immunization record database, and the school nurses already check vaccination records. Start with knowing who isn't vaccinated, and focus on them for contact tracing. And follow up with targeted information about how to get vaccinated.


This is great for vaccinated kids but the elementary schools won’t have this option.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way.
Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


I mean, kinda? But for vaccinated students who are contacts, FCPS is making them stay home until their adults upload proof of vaccination status and fill out a form confirming they're asymptomatic. MCPS isn't doing that, at least not yet.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/new-process-speed-return-fully-vaccinated-students-classroom


I like this policy!


Why?

NP here. Because this policy means that fully vaccinated students without symptoms are not dependent on a symptomatic student getting a negative test result in order to return to class.

I wish the schools and health department would just coordinate and proactively identify who is vaccinated and who isn't. It's already in the state immunization record database, and the school nurses already check vaccination records. Start with knowing who isn't vaccinated, and focus on them for contact tracing. And follow up with targeted information about how to get vaccinated.


That would be a better policy than the FCPS policy.
Anonymous
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The positivity rate in the county is around 3%. So the vast majority of the time it will be something else. This policy just does not make sense given the current transmission rate in the county.


That's everybody, though. We don't know what the positivity rate is for people who are experiencing possible symptoms.

I agree that the policy doesn't make sense.
Anonymous
At my pediatrician office, if my kid get tested today morning/afternoon, the result won't be available till next day online. That means, kid has to be picked up early today and no school tomorrow

People on this forum keep talking about same day pcr testing, does that means the result will be in today if I have my kid get tested today in the morning/afternoon? Where are those places in montgomery county? Covered by insurance? I see some places charge me $250 out of pocket and I can get result in an hour. But, that is really expensive.

And, what happens if the negative result is announced after school hours (like 3:15pm or in the evening), will all kids/parents in the class get notified in time on the same day and be able to go to school tomorrow?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no plot to sabotage in-person learning by infecting everyone with covid. Are you Tucker Carlson? Because you sound like him, sad crazy provocateur person.

What there is, is some epic failure and miscommunication on so many levels and everywhere.


No other district in the country is sending kids home this way. Not in a conservative-located district, nor a liberal-located district. MoCo/MCPS is not smarter than everybody else. In fact, all we've seen is the opposite from the very beginning. Classrooms/kids will be inappropriately held hostage waiting for a single person to get tested (or not). This is terrible, operationally-asinine policy. Yes, they are actively sabotaging in-person.


Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s sabotage. The opposite is true. If moco wanted to sabotage return there would be no mask wearing or testing for symptoms for a quick return to virtual. You read about other states right?


The county health department never wanted MCPS to open last year, they probably didn’t this year either. As evidenced by his leaked emails, Dr. Gayles seems oddly bitter toward families who prioritize their kids education. They’re not going to sabotage school by not requiring masks, come on. More than one way to achieve the goal and this is a uniquely MoCo way to do it- quarantine kids unnecessarily and use it as “evidence” that in person is not sustainable.
Anonymous
when can kids 5 & above can be vaccinated? Anyone keeps track of the news?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At my pediatrician office, if my kid get tested today morning/afternoon, the result won't be available till next day online. That means, kid has to be picked up early today and no school tomorrow

People on this forum keep talking about same day pcr testing, does that means the result will be in today if I have my kid get tested today in the morning/afternoon? Where are those places in montgomery county? Covered by insurance? I see some places charge me $250 out of pocket and I can get result in an hour. But, that is really expensive.

And, what happens if the negative result is announced after school hours (like 3:15pm or in the evening), will all kids/parents in the class get notified in time on the same day and be able to go to school tomorrow?


We’ve gone to PM pediatrics for same days tests but it’s not as “easy” as some would lead you to believe. You need to have a virtual visit first and then the appointment time needs to be within a certain window to actually get same day results- maybe 12-2pm? Our insurance has always covered it but we weren’t sure that would be the case at first. It is expensive otherwise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.


Very glad to hear this. It's about time they take these guidelines seriously and prioritize the safety of our children!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At my pediatrician office, if my kid get tested today morning/afternoon, the result won't be available till next day online. That means, kid has to be picked up early today and no school tomorrow

People on this forum keep talking about same day pcr testing, does that means the result will be in today if I have my kid get tested today in the morning/afternoon? Where are those places in montgomery county? Covered by insurance? I see some places charge me $250 out of pocket and I can get result in an hour. But, that is really expensive.

And, what happens if the negative result is announced after school hours (like 3:15pm or in the evening), will all kids/parents in the class get notified in time on the same day and be able to go to school tomorrow?


No school today anyway.
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