DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”

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Anonymous wrote:ECNLers really freaking out over this. Love it!!

You really have no clue... I feel so bad for you! ECNL is steady as a rock while the DA who said was the #1 for player development folded. ECNL doesn’t need your club or any of the DA clubs. They have been and will always be the top platform for player development and competition for years to come. Stay at DPL, NEW DA, NPL ODSL or whatever you want to call it. Truth is it won’t be strong and you know that or you wouldn’t be on DC Urban soccer forum trying to convince your fellow DA families that the new “DA” will be as strong as the old “DA” and to stay so that your kid can keep on looking good surrounded by the strong players that are making her look good. Give it up, and just wait for the announcements next week.

Yeah, you’re freaking out.

Lets be clear, I want your top ECNL FCV girls to come to my daughters club and team, because I know we are missing very important players that they can fill. lol I am not scared I am praying for them to come

They have no reason to come now.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

Nope, that's when DA changed the schedule so they could pull more over because they understood they couldn't compete. In fact in the last several years BIG clubs pulled year by year because it wasn't the same, not by a long shot. Keep hope alive. I like your drive and determination to keep your team in a crap league to fit your agenda. Mean while your teammates parents are on the phone with the likes of Mikey, Clyde and the new director at Loudoun. Believe me they are keeping that secret no matter what they are saying to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

Nope, that's when DA changed the schedule so they could pull more over because they understood they couldn't compete. In fact in the last several years BIG clubs pulled year by year because it wasn't the same, not by a long shot. Keep hope alive. I like your drive and determination to keep your team in a crap league to fit your agenda. Mean while your teammates parents are on the phone with the likes of Mikey, Clyde and the new director at Loudoun. Believe me they are keeping that secret no matter what they are saying to you.

What!?!? Changing the schedule was all it took? Crazy. Well here is a nugget for you, ECNLs schedule is already posted and is pretty fixed.

I’m pretty sure such conflicts won’t happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

Nope, that's when DA changed the schedule so they could pull more over because they understood they couldn't compete. In fact in the last several years BIG clubs pulled year by year because it wasn't the same, not by a long shot. Keep hope alive. I like your drive and determination to keep your team in a crap league to fit your agenda. Mean while your teammates parents are on the phone with the likes of Mikey, Clyde and the new director at Loudoun. Believe me they are keeping that secret no matter what they are saying to you.

Loudoun is full of kids who didn’t start on the DA teams they left, but ok.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

Nope, that's when DA changed the schedule so they could pull more over because they understood they couldn't compete. In fact in the last several years BIG clubs pulled year by year because it wasn't the same, not by a long shot. Keep hope alive. I like your drive and determination to keep your team in a crap league to fit your agenda. Mean while your teammates parents are on the phone with the likes of Mikey, Clyde and the new director at Loudoun. Believe me they are keeping that secret no matter what they are saying to you.

What!?!? Changing the schedule was all it took? Crazy. Well here is a nugget for you, ECNLs schedule is already posted and is pretty fixed.

I’m pretty sure such conflicts won’t happen again.

You know the king of recruiting is on the phone with FCV kids.. In fact he used to train many of them. Let's just see how many he can convince to come to his new team.

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Gda launch, operation and end has been confusing to say the least. If they had genuinely wanted to run this league successfully, i think they could have.

They underestimated their opponent which happens in business all the time. But because children are involved, this failure is particularly ugly and unfortunate.

They overplayed the value of having a few players get to go to NT camps....that is useful but not enough to drive success for a giant, very costly league for kid soccer.

With more extensive market research and listening to the customers, I think they could have made it. They did win several regions. maybe they should have just ditched the national league thing and kept the regions where it was more successful.

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I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

The college coaches at GDA vs. ECNL events the past 12 months are not even comparable. The GDA had more and more high-level soccer programs by a factor of 3 or more. I was at both.

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So much hate, relax. The clubs want to look after players at this time, every club will do the best they can for you’re kid. There is no need for people being so aggressive on this forum

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Why has there been so many second teams accepted into boys ecnl?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

The college coaches at GDA vs. ECNL events the past 12 months are not even comparable. The GDA had more and more high-level soccer programs by a factor of 3 or more. I was at both.

Not even remotely true.

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Anonymous wrote:Why has there been so many second teams accepted into boys ecnl?

Mostly professional franchises getting 2?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

The college coaches at GDA vs. ECNL events the past 12 months are not even comparable. The GDA had more and more high-level soccer programs by a factor of 3 or more. I was at both.

Not even remotely true.

I have been to both. I am guessing you have only been to ECNL.