King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any pictures of the inside of the building online anywhere

Well, the School Board work session is there tomorrow.

Closed Session and Public Meeting
Friday, June 20, 2025
2949 Education Drive, Herndon, Virginia
Closed portion is closed to the public.
Public portion is open to the public - public portion time is an estimate and may occur later than stated time.
1:00 p.m.
*Times subject to change

I don’t think the public meeting is anything more than certifying closed actions.

[Anonymous]

With the new high school, it’s now much easier to solve the split feeder issues between middle schools and high schools in western Fairfax.

Just match each high school with its feeder school. Here is the solution:

Hughes MS - South Lakes HS

Carson MS - New HS

Franklin MS - Oakton HS

Rocky Run MS - Chantilly HS

Stone MS - Westfield HS

Liberty MS - Centreville HS

Herndon MS - Herndon HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the new high school, it’s now much easier to solve the split feeder issues between middle schools and high schools in western Fairfax.

Just match each high school with its feeder school. Here is the solution:

Hughes MS - South Lakes HS

Carson MS - New HS

Franklin MS - Oakton HS

Rocky Run MS - Chantilly HS

Stone MS - Westfield HS

Liberty MS - Centreville HS

Herndon MS - Herndon HS

Not sure about Franklin/Oakton It may stay split Lees Corner goes there to and they go to Chantilly. Armfield Farms is right next to Franklin. I am guessing that some are walkers. There are some Oak Hill kids who also walk to Franklin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the new high school, it’s now much easier to solve the split feeder issues between middle schools and high schools in western Fairfax.

Just match each high school with its feeder school. Here is the solution:

Hughes MS - South Lakes HS

Carson MS - New HS

Franklin MS - Oakton HS

Rocky Run MS - Chantilly HS

Stone MS - Westfield HS

Liberty MS - Centreville HS

Herndon MS - Herndon HS

One complicating factor is that Franklin is nowhere near Oakton, and Oakton also draws from Thoreau. I know there's one poster intent on claiming that anyone now at Carson should go to the new HS, but it's premature to conclude that will work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the new high school, it’s now much easier to solve the split feeder issues between middle schools and high schools in western Fairfax.

Just match each high school with its feeder school. Here is the solution:

Hughes MS - South Lakes HS

Carson MS - New HS

Franklin MS - Oakton HS

Rocky Run MS - Chantilly HS

Stone MS - Westfield HS

Liberty MS - Centreville HS

Herndon MS - Herndon HS

One complicating factor is that Franklin is nowhere near Oakton, and Oakton also draws from Thoreau. I know there's one poster intent on claiming that anyone now at Carson should go to the new HS, but it's premature to conclude that will work.

+1

There is one school that is not at Carson that is very likely to go to the new high school. I'm guessing they may make a change there, too.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any pictures of the inside of the building online anywhere

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Compare the clubs at Hughes to Carson. Or Oakton to SLHS. There are more opportunities at Carson and Oakton. We all want our kids to have the most opportunities available to them. That is what parents want for their kids. That is why Great Falls doesn’t want to move to Herndon, there are more opportunities at Langley then Herndon. I am not sure why this surprises people.

So yes, I would not want my kids MS to be moved from Carson to Hughes and I would prefer an AP school over IB.

And don’t pretend you wouldn’t lose it if FCPS announced that your kids AP school was changing to IB or your kid was moved from a school with lots of clubs and activities to one with a lot less. Because you would. You would advocate for your kid to stay at the school that offers more clubs and advanced classes. You would advocate to move to the school with more opportunities.

SLHS has a lot of great kids and teachers and the kids that go there get a good education but it is not what most people in this County want. We have friends who love it. We have friends who are fine with it. We have friends who pupil place out of it. It is fine but it is not a good fit for kids who want to take high level classes, because the HL IB courses are not offered on a regular basis. That means it is harder to get college credit.

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I would suggest that the parents organize over IB. When schools were redistricted from Westfield to South Lakes a LOT of parents protested and begged for a change. I don't know if the protest was organized, but it would be more effective if it were.

I have a couple of friends with teens at South Lakes. One from Lake Anne and one from Floris area. Both have said they wished they had AP. I realize that some parents do like IB, but I suspect most would rather not have it. Of course, as long as all the Herndon kids are coming there, it will make it more difficult to get rid of it. If surveys are done, it should only be for those who have "in boundary" students.

Can’t they pupil place to Herndon for AP?

Some pupil place for Herndon AP. Some pupil place for Langley AP/Russian. Some pupil place for Oakton AP/Japanese. Some pupil place to Westfield AP/Japanese. Slightly more then 200 kids pupil place out of SLHS each year.

False. There were 177 transfers out of South Lakes this past year, and 33 were to TJHSST.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

[Anonymous]

This purchase is a coup for Fairfax County. This will be the nicest public school facility (of its size) in the County, perhaps in the entire State. The original build cost was around $100M (excluding $15+M in other improvements). If the FCPS tried to build something similar (they wouldn’t have, it’s too nice), I suspect it would have cost us taxpayers closer to $200M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

It’s not complicating at all.

Carson MS has many out-of-boundary students (for AAP). These students return to their home high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m thrilled about this. We are in Fox Mill/Carson and the transition from Carson to SLHS where our neighborhood kids are a minority is awful. I am hoping very much that our neighborhood along with RCMS area will go to this new school.

It’s going to very interesting to see what they do if they make this a general HS. Fox Mill is a big neighborhood. They may not want to pull it out of SLHS. There is also the reducing transportation time vs. reducing split feeder issue. I don’t see how they solve both because the new HS won’t have room for everyone. Look at
who people think should attend this new school… Fox Mill, Emerald Chase, Franklin Farm, Chantilly Highlands, who else? There’s isn’t room for everyone so someone is either keeping their long commute to Oakton or staying at Westfield or South Lakes

Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and South Lakes was just fine without it.

Actually it wasn’t; hence, the large boundary change in 2008.

And then South Lakes got expanded after that outside the renovation queue.

Fox Mill isn’t that far from South Lakes and should stay there. If anything they should look to adjust the boundaries so it goes to Hughes as well.

The last thing anyone should be implying is that we need to build an addition to KAA before the sale has even closed.

Why? The Western HS was proposed to relieve SLHS, Oakton, Westfield, and Chantilly. Basically Caron is going to feed the new school instead of three or four way split.

South Lakes isn't overcrowded like Chantilly, no one travels as far to South Lakes as Crossfield travels to Oakton, and capacity at the new school may be limited. So, nice try (again), but I wouldn't assume that everyone currently zoned to Carson will feed to this school. Boundaries may change, and they may conclude they still need some split feeders, even if they can reduce the three-way split at Carson.

LOL, I'm not trying anything difficult. Read past CIPs to understand why the new high school was proposed. Check how close Carson MS is to the new HS.

Don't overcomplicate it.

It's complicated by the fact that Carson has a large capacity for a MS and the new school would appear to have a small capacity for a HS.

Also, reducing student commutes to Oakton may take priority over sending everyone now at Carson to the new HS.

Sorry if reality bites.

No worries, it won’t bite.

Carson MS will be a feeder school for the new HS, just like Herndon MS to Herndon HS, Hughes MS to South Lakes HS, Johnson MS to Fairfax HS, and Cooper MS to Langley HS.

If you lack common sense, just wait and see.

Or it could remain a split feeder like it has been, and like Franklin, Thoreau, Holmes, Poe, and Kilmer have been.

You're the one making assumptions that at this point are premature.