Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Safety is pure waste,” said submersible CEO now trapped in unrescuable submersible:

https://bestlifeonline.com/missing-titanic-submarine-ceo-safety-is-waste-news/

He was the Elizabeth Holmes of submersibles.

"But Rush pushed back on his assertion that the vehicle was dangerous. 'There are certain things that you want to be buttoned down. The pressure vessel is not MacGyver at all, because that's where we worked with Boeing and NASA and the University of Washington,' he explained. 'Everything else can fail, your thrusters can go, your lights can go. You're still going to be safe.'"

From the previously cited article:

Overall, Rush maintained that the operation wasn't putting anyone at risk. "I don't think it's very dangerous."

"I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:press conference just ended -- they have heard sounds today but can't confirm that they are from the Titan. they are searching that area though. also sounds like many vessels have arrived to help

The perfect spacing of every 30min makes me think it’s not the Titan. Even as a naval code for help, they are in pitch black with likely dead devices and watches not working, how would they get the timing so exact?

Is the camping light out? I would expect it to be operating, as would watches. They wouldn't be in pitch black.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Once past the window of this being a rescue, I do not see the value in attempting to bring the Titan back to the surface.

Unless the families are willing to pay for the recovery efforts, it seems to me that it should be left where it is.

Anyone disagree? I’m interested in hearing the other side if so.

I don’t think the government should be involved in a rescue attempt, unless there is some military angle to this they are not disclosing. A billionaire who is high on his own supply is stuck in the water with four “crew members” who were fully informed and signed detailed waivers. This is not a problem that ethically requires anyone else’s action or risk-taking.

Live as a libertarian who thinks your money protects you, die as a libertarian who thinks your money protects you.

How do you know they’re libertarians? What on earth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once past the window of this being a rescue, I do not see the value in attempting to bring the Titan back to the surface.

Unless the families are willing to pay for the recovery efforts, it seems to me that it should be left where it is.

Anyone disagree? I’m interested in hearing the other side if so.

I don't disagree. I'm not even sure its feasible. Or if they'll even find it.

[Anonymous]

Gotta love that oceangate’s lawyer is complaining that the us government isn’t helping enough

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Safety is pure waste,” said submersible CEO now trapped in unrescuable submersible:

https://bestlifeonline.com/missing-titanic-submarine-ceo-safety-is-waste-news/

There's a sad video on said CEO explaining why he didn't want to hire any more military & submarine experts...they were middle-aged and white. The horror.

Oh man sounds like he was pretty woke like the ninnies here who insist everyone on board was a libertarian.

[Anonymous]

The search will die out. They will stay at the bottom of the ocean. Some other divers/novice rich dudes will find them in another 100 years. Where there advanced sub will fail trapping them down there for the next adventurer. So on and so forth, for eternity. Like an infinity mirror or sunken ships.

[Anonymous]

From the previously link Ocean Gate webpage:

"Titan is the only manned submersible to employ an integrated real-time health monitoring system. Utilizing co-located acoustic sensors and strain gauges throughout the pressure boundary, the RTM system makes it possible to analyze the effects of changing pressure on the vessel as the submersible dives deeper, and accurately assess the integrity of the structure. This onboard health analysis monitoring system provides early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotta love that oceangate’s lawyer is complaining that the us government isn’t helping enough

really where did you hear that??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?

We’ve got tons of subs in our navy; why doesn’t one of ours just go there, have the crew swim over one by one, and bring those people home already?

So our US Navy submariners can swim at 12000 feet below sea level? We've come a long way in naval warfare preparations.

We lost one of the worlds best divers Dave Shaw when he tried to retrieve the body of a fellow diver. The risk is too high to send a diver down this deep into the ocean.

Dave Shaw went down 900 ft. The Titanic is at a depth of 12,000 ft. Use some common sense, people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the previously link Ocean Gate webpage:

"Titan is the only manned submersible to employ an integrated real-time health monitoring system. Utilizing co-located acoustic sensors and strain gauges throughout the pressure boundary, the RTM system makes it possible to analyze the effects of changing pressure on the vessel as the submersible dives deeper, and accurately assess the integrity of the structure. This onboard health analysis monitoring system provides early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface."

the question is - if they lost power and all communication ability -- does this monitoring system even work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Safety is pure waste,” said submersible CEO now trapped in unrescuable submersible:

https://bestlifeonline.com/missing-titanic-submarine-ceo-safety-is-waste-news/

There's a sad video on said CEO explaining why he didn't want to hire any more military & submarine experts...they were middle-aged and white. The horror.

Link, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the previously link Ocean Gate webpage:

"Titan is the only manned submersible to employ an integrated real-time health monitoring system. Utilizing co-located acoustic sensors and strain gauges throughout the pressure boundary, the RTM system makes it possible to analyze the effects of changing pressure on the vessel as the submersible dives deeper, and accurately assess the integrity of the structure. This onboard health analysis monitoring system provides early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface."

the question is - if they lost power and all communication ability -- does this monitoring system even work?

Did it ever work?

No one knows since they declined government/industry oversight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the previously link Ocean Gate webpage:

"Titan is the only manned submersible to employ an integrated real-time health monitoring system. Utilizing co-located acoustic sensors and strain gauges throughout the pressure boundary, the RTM system makes it possible to analyze the effects of changing pressure on the vessel as the submersible dives deeper, and accurately assess the integrity of the structure. This onboard health analysis monitoring system provides early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface."

the question is - if they lost power and all communication ability -- does this monitoring system even work?

Did it ever work?

No one knows since they declined government/industry oversight.

true. i see a big investigation on the horizon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the previously link Ocean Gate webpage:

"Titan is the only manned submersible to employ an integrated real-time health monitoring system. Utilizing co-located acoustic sensors and strain gauges throughout the pressure boundary, the RTM system makes it possible to analyze the effects of changing pressure on the vessel as the submersible dives deeper, and accurately assess the integrity of the structure. This onboard health analysis monitoring system provides early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface."

the question is - if they lost power and all communication ability -- does this monitoring system even work?

Did it ever work?

No one knows since they declined government/industry oversight.

I think it did, because they said on the last trip they lost communication for a short while, but were able to find them or otherwise recover quickly.