
Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't. She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that. Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied." I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed. Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it. |
A lot of celebrity couples let each other shine on the red carpet without having to make sure they’re $1 billion franchise does well? Are you kidding me acting as if this is normal? You guys want it both ways. It doesn’t matter to them! They’re just doing it for the art! But they want the movies to make as much money as possible so of course they’re going to promote it together! You are talking in circles. It ends with us with a crappy movie based on a crappy book and yet Blake nearly killed herself trying to get a producer credit for it. Had her lawyers send eight different emails saying she was going to walk off the film at every turn cost cast and crew their jobs because she wanted it so bad she was going to do anything to get it. Completely threw the head screenwriter under the bus on the red carpet because she wanted she and her husband to get credit for writing the scene. And then had to write a ridiculous apology letter. Ryan Reynolds just had to have his gin advertised as part of it ends with us. But it doesn’t matter to them. They’re just in for funsies! Ruined her relationship with Taylor Swift because she just had to have Taylor tell Justin the rooftop scene was good. Had to have the dailies, even though it wasn’t part of her job as an actress to get access to the dailies. Had to have her husband take over the marketing of the film, even though that wasn’t what Sony intended and cost the movie a lot extra. Ran to the New York Times instead of just quietly going through sag, or even just quietly filing a lawsuit for sexual harassment. It’s hard to think of people who want this more than they want it. They’re the most power-hungry and fame whorish celebs I’ve ever seen and it’s just hilarious that someone seriously trying to argue in this thread that they are not. The whole reason they’re in this mess is because she couldn’t handle a little bad publicity that was totally self earned so she decided to burn she and her husband‘s career to the ground. Congratulations and how is that sequel going? |
No one was confused about your criticism. I just think there's nothing "insane" about a celebrity with a PR problem pulling strings to get some kind of humanitarian honor, and that honor being BS, and using the press around the honor to try and shore up their public image regarding said PR problem. It's standard. Again, do you think Justin wasn't doing the exact same thing when he accepted that "solidarity" award back in December or whatever? I am familiar with his body of work and don't think he's much of a feminist ally -- I think that's a BS award. To what degree was he using it to try and shore up his bona fides as a male feminist, knowing these allegations of Lively's were out there and might be coming out any moment? We know from his texts with Abel that he was worried about that for months and months. Yes, they are both gross. Yes, celebs do this all the time. Yes, you should always be skeptical of these kinds of awards and honors. But is Lively doing something out of the ordinary or unique? Nope, not even a little. This is standard fare PR rehab. |
I say this without snark: I do not understand the point being made here. |
You cannot compare Justin accepting that award pre-lawsuit with Blake doing this post-lawsuit. They're not the same, at all. |
I think the issue is that two arguments are being made. 1) The point you are making, that her PR efforts are failing and everything she does to try and make herself look better backfires and gets ripped apart online. I agree with this BUT since she's contractually obligated to promote her new movie, it puts her in a bind. Promotional contract provisions often extend beyond appearances at the premiere -- it often requires stars to promote on social media and make other efforts. So she may genuinely be stuck here -- she has to promote this movie but almost everything she does gets torn to shreds. 2) The point some others are making, which is that she is a bad person for doing publicity right now. That her going to the premiere of her own movie or doing a few fairly standard public appearances with her husband to try and attract attention to her and her movie reflects some narcissistic need for attention, and Justin Baldoni is a better person because he's just hiding out in Hawaii and not begging for attention. I find this argument absurd because, again, she has a movie coming out and HAS to do press right now, and also Justin does not have a movie coming out and therefore can just be on some kind of perma-vacation (and also he 100% is doing PR in Hawaii, which is why we periodically get pictures of him taking his kids out for ice cream or whatever -- those aren't accidents). |
They are the exact same thing, sorry. YOU have different information now, but the execution and intent is identical. If you don't think Justin's PR people didn't reach out to that org and put him up for that award and promise, oh hey Justin's buddy who is also a famous comedian would be happy to present it, you are crazy. It's just that when Justin got that award, no one paid attention to the grift because the spotlight wasn't on these people. But the actual PR move is the same. BS awards for famous people done at the behest of their PR folks to help them promote something and/or counter some negative press. |
Your argument is basically: "People accept these PR awards because they want to make themselves look good, and Blake and Justin clearly want to make themselves look good, therefore, their acceptance of these awards is the exact same." lol, just stop. Blake is accepting the award during a tidal wave of public backlash and using it to comment on the lawsuit ("women aren't safe anywhere"), which is basically pouring gasoline over the fire, even though she should be laying low right now. THAT is what's unusual. |
Sure but don’t have fake fans. And if you’re going to have fake fans, don’t make it someone so easily identified like the director’s wife. And if you’re going to buy an award, don’t connect it to a donation from 6 years ago that was made as an apology for having a plantation wedding, and certainly don’t go to the gala for the award and not mention civil rights at all when that’s the reason for the award. It’s 2025, these sorts of tactics simply don’t work anymore, especially for a celeb who’s under a microscope. |
You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good. He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that. He said, it smells good? Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck. That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her. |
I had the same thought. She’s insecure about her lip so she’s overthinking the kissing scenes. |
She also claimed he said “I’m not even attracted to you” during the dance scene as well, which seems to have been a lie based on the footage. |
Dp, but it was lying. Which is why she removed the allegation from her amended complaint. |
And now taken together with the lies she told on the paparazzo, it’s a troubling pattern. She has zero credibility. |
lol, the arguments that Blake did not "lie" reminds me of the first Trump administration, when the mainstream media would clutch their pearls over the idea of printing that Trump blatantly lied because *gasp* who knows if Trump actually believes what he's saying or not, you have to factor in intent, etc. The pro-Blake side is trying to suck us into such a boring conversation. Lie, mislead, mischaracterized -- use whatever word you want. The point is that her accusations are a joke. |