Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

She also claimed he said “I’m not even attracted to you” during the dance scene as well, which seems to have been a lie based on the footage.

Incorrect. She says in her complaint that AFTER they filmed the scene, she complained about his behavior, and his response was to say "I'm not even attracted to you." This would not have been on a video that ends right after the last "cut" and doesn't show conversations between or after takes. The footage neither proves nor disproves this allegation and Baldoni does not address it at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

Dp, but it was lying. Which is why she removed the allegation from her amended complaint.

lol, the arguments that Blake did not "lie" reminds me of the first Trump administration, when the mainstream media would clutch their pearls over the idea of printing that Trump blatantly lied because *gasp* who knows if Trump actually believes what he's saying or not, you have to factor in intent, etc. The pro-Blake side is trying to suck us into such a boring conversation.

Lie, mislead, mischaracterized -- use whatever word you want. The point is that her accusations are a joke.

Amen. And the way her supporters make excuses for her saying things like thats how she felt, or that’s how she remembered it. That’s not going to work when she’s trying to ruin a man. Like oops sorry, I guess I misinterpreted that comment, let’s let bygones be bygones. No, she needs to be held accountable.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

She also claimed he said “I’m not even attracted to you” during the dance scene as well, which seems to have been a lie based on the footage.

Incorrect. She says in her complaint that AFTER they filmed the scene, she complained about his behavior, and his response was to say "I'm not even attracted to you." This would not have been on a video that ends right after the last "cut" and doesn't show conversations between or after takes. The footage neither proves nor disproves this allegation and Baldoni does not address it at all.

Someone should tell the NYT and other outlets that reported the story b/c they’re not so specific. The only thing that’s clear is that the alleged comment was related to the dance scene. How convenient that this was after the cameras stopped…

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

Dp, but it was lying. Which is why she removed the allegation from her amended complaint.

lol, the arguments that Blake did not "lie" reminds me of the first Trump administration, when the mainstream media would clutch their pearls over the idea of printing that Trump blatantly lied because *gasp* who knows if Trump actually believes what he's saying or not, you have to factor in intent, etc. The pro-Blake side is trying to suck us into such a boring conversation.

Lie, mislead, mischaracterized -- use whatever word you want. The point is that her accusations are a joke.

Amen. And the way her supporters make excuses for her saying things like thats how she felt, or that’s how she remembered it. That’s not going to work when she’s trying to ruin a man. Like oops sorry, I guess I misinterpreted that comment, let’s let bygones be bygones. No, she needs to be held accountable.

Coming from the people who make *multiple posts per page* that are simply stating over and over the same lies and speculation that they WANT to be true (eg, Lively is evil, their careers are over), is pretty rich. We are at least tied in to the truth and the real facts, whereas y’all went rogue a long time ago.

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I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

Dp, but it was lying. Which is why she removed the allegation from her amended complaint.

lol, the arguments that Blake did not "lie" reminds me of the first Trump administration, when the mainstream media would clutch their pearls over the idea of printing that Trump blatantly lied because *gasp* who knows if Trump actually believes what he's saying or not, you have to factor in intent, etc. The pro-Blake side is trying to suck us into such a boring conversation.

Lie, mislead, mischaracterized -- use whatever word you want. The point is that her accusations are a joke.

Amen. And the way her supporters make excuses for her saying things like thats how she felt, or that’s how she remembered it. That’s not going to work when she’s trying to ruin a man. Like oops sorry, I guess I misinterpreted that comment, let’s let bygones be bygones. No, she needs to be held accountable.

Coming from the people who make *multiple posts per page* that are simply stating over and over the same lies and speculation that they WANT to be true (eg, Lively is evil, their careers are over), is pretty rich. We are at least tied in to the truth and the real facts, whereas y’all went rogue a long time ago.

Yeah, because "Baldoners gonna baldone" is real hard-hitting analysis based on truth and facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

Dp, but it was lying. Which is why she removed the allegation from her amended complaint.

lol, the arguments that Blake did not "lie" reminds me of the first Trump administration, when the mainstream media would clutch their pearls over the idea of printing that Trump blatantly lied because *gasp* who knows if Trump actually believes what he's saying or not, you have to factor in intent, etc. The pro-Blake side is trying to suck us into such a boring conversation.

Lie, mislead, mischaracterized -- use whatever word you want. The point is that her accusations are a joke.

Amen. And the way her supporters make excuses for her saying things like thats how she felt, or that’s how she remembered it. That’s not going to work when she’s trying to ruin a man. Like oops sorry, I guess I misinterpreted that comment, let’s let bygones be bygones. No, she needs to be held accountable.

A victim's perception of alleged harassment is relevant to claims of sexual harassment, especially hostile work environment. Obviously objective facts also matter, but it is extremely common for SH cases to involve comments or behaviors that the alleged victim interprets as hostile or harassing, and the defendant interprets as innocent or appropriate. It's normal in an SH case for juries to hear testimony of both the alleged victim's experience of the event, and the defendants intentions and understanding of the interaction.

Also, I don't think Lively has ever said "oops, I guess I misinterpreted that comment, let's let bygones be bygones." She has instead stood by her allegations that his behavior was inappropriate and made her uncomfortable. It's an issue of fact for the jury -- will they agree? No one knows.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

It is 100% accurate to say she lied. The fact that she omitted the part where she said “I’m probably getting my spray tan on you” clearly makes the whole story a lie. When you omit facts to intentionally mislead, it’s a lie. That’s what Blake did to the paparazzo. She said he blocked them with his car, when he was actually on foot and it was all on camera. That’s what some allege she did with her time speech. Calling her mother’s attacker a work acquaintance and vaguely referring to a crime so we would fill in the blanks that a man had assaulted her mother, but now some are saying what actually happened was her mother had an altercation with a woman at work. Blake has a sick way of twisting the truth. She is a liar.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

She also claimed he said “I’m not even attracted to you” during the dance scene as well, which seems to have been a lie based on the footage.

Incorrect. She says in her complaint that AFTER they filmed the scene, she complained about his behavior, and his response was to say "I'm not even attracted to you." This would not have been on a video that ends right after the last "cut" and doesn't show conversations between or after takes. The footage neither proves nor disproves this allegation and Baldoni does not address it at all.

Someone should tell the NYT and other outlets that reported the story b/c they’re not so specific. The only thing that’s clear is that the alleged comment was related to the dance scene. How convenient that this was after the cameras stopped…

Lively's complaint is specific. I don't recall if the NYT mentioned that specific allegation but if they quoted her complaint it would correctly have placed the comment AFTER the scene was filmed.

And it's not "convenient" it happened after the cameras stopped. Why would cameras continue rolling while they discussed Lively feeling uncomfortable about his behavior? It's not a security camera, they are making a movie. The cameraperson has union-mandated breaks. Of course a lot of her allegations happened when cameras were not rolling. But there would be witnesses, and a jury could hear testimony from both parties and decide who they believe.

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I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

It is 100% accurate to say she lied. The fact that she omitted the part where she said “I’m probably getting my spray tan on you” clearly makes the whole story a lie. When you omit facts to intentionally mislead, it’s a lie. That’s what Blake did to the paparazzo. She said he blocked them with his car, when he was actually on foot and it was all on camera. That’s what some allege she did with her time speech. Calling her mother’s attacker a work acquaintance and vaguely referring to a crime so we would fill in the blanks that a man had assaulted her mother, but now some are saying what actually happened was her mother had an altercation with a woman at work. Blake has a sick way of twisting the truth. She is a liar.

You are using the word "lie" incorrectly. She didn't lie. She omitted a fact that provides a potential defense for Baldoni. That's not only okay, it's practically required. Lawyers are not supposed to provide defendants with arguments in a complaint. The assumption is that Baldoni will come back and say "I said that but I was just referring to the smell of her spray tan." That's how this works.

She was not lying about the comment bothering her -- we see her react immediately, in the moment, to the comment and she is bothered by it.

So she didn't lie. You just do not think, in context, that this allegation constitutes harassment. That's fine! Say that. Don't walk around claiming she lied when she told the truth and you just disagree with her take.

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I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

It is 100% accurate to say she lied. The fact that she omitted the part where she said “I’m probably getting my spray tan on you” clearly makes the whole story a lie. When you omit facts to intentionally mislead, it’s a lie. That’s what Blake did to the paparazzo. She said he blocked them with his car, when he was actually on foot and it was all on camera. That’s what some allege she did with her time speech. Calling her mother’s attacker a work acquaintance and vaguely referring to a crime so we would fill in the blanks that a man had assaulted her mother, but now some are saying what actually happened was her mother had an altercation with a woman at work. Blake has a sick way of twisting the truth. She is a liar.

You are using the word "lie" incorrectly. She didn't lie. She omitted a fact that provides a potential defense for Baldoni. That's not only okay, it's practically required. Lawyers are not supposed to provide defendants with arguments in a complaint. The assumption is that Baldoni will come back and say "I said that but I was just referring to the smell of her spray tan." That's how this works.

She was not lying about the comment bothering her -- we see her react immediately, in the moment, to the comment and she is bothered by it.

So she didn't lie. You just do not think, in context, that this allegation constitutes harassment. That's fine! Say that. Don't walk around claiming she lied when she told the truth and you just disagree with her take.

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I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

It is 100% accurate to say she lied. The fact that she omitted the part where she said “I’m probably getting my spray tan on you” clearly makes the whole story a lie. When you omit facts to intentionally mislead, it’s a lie. That’s what Blake did to the paparazzo. She said he blocked them with his car, when he was actually on foot and it was all on camera. That’s what some allege she did with her time speech. Calling her mother’s attacker a work acquaintance and vaguely referring to a crime so we would fill in the blanks that a man had assaulted her mother, but now some are saying what actually happened was her mother had an altercation with a woman at work. Blake has a sick way of twisting the truth. She is a liar.

You are using the word "lie" incorrectly. She didn't lie. She omitted a fact that provides a potential defense for Baldoni. That's not only okay, it's practically required. Lawyers are not supposed to provide defendants with arguments in a complaint. The assumption is that Baldoni will come back and say "I said that but I was just referring to the smell of her spray tan." That's how this works.

She was not lying about the comment bothering her -- we see her react immediately, in the moment, to the comment and she is bothered by it.

So she didn't lie. You just do not think, in context, that this allegation constitutes harassment. That's fine! Say that. Don't walk around claiming she lied when she told the truth and you just disagree with her take.

You're telling this poster to just say what they think, but they can't say they think Blake lied? Why do you want them to equivocate?

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

Dp, but it was lying. Which is why she removed the allegation from her amended complaint.

lol, the arguments that Blake did not "lie" reminds me of the first Trump administration, when the mainstream media would clutch their pearls over the idea of printing that Trump blatantly lied because *gasp* who knows if Trump actually believes what he's saying or not, you have to factor in intent, etc. The pro-Blake side is trying to suck us into such a boring conversation.

Lie, mislead, mischaracterized -- use whatever word you want. The point is that her accusations are a joke.

Amen. And the way her supporters make excuses for her saying things like thats how she felt, or that’s how she remembered it. That’s not going to work when she’s trying to ruin a man. Like oops sorry, I guess I misinterpreted that comment, let’s let bygones be bygones. No, she needs to be held accountable.

Coming from the people who make *multiple posts per page* that are simply stating over and over the same lies and speculation that they WANT to be true (eg, Lively is evil, their careers are over), is pretty rich. We are at least tied in to the truth and the real facts, whereas y’all went rogue a long time ago.

Yeah, because "Baldoners gonna baldone" is real hard-hitting analysis based on truth and facts.

But you have to admit that we’re usually much more substantive than that, since you complain about it so much lol! Meanwhile you offer some substance but a much higher percentage of “Blake is evil” and similar nonsense comments. Blech

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

It is 100% accurate to say she lied. The fact that she omitted the part where she said “I’m probably getting my spray tan on you” clearly makes the whole story a lie. When you omit facts to intentionally mislead, it’s a lie. That’s what Blake did to the paparazzo. She said he blocked them with his car, when he was actually on foot and it was all on camera. That’s what some allege she did with her time speech. Calling her mother’s attacker a work acquaintance and vaguely referring to a crime so we would fill in the blanks that a man had assaulted her mother, but now some are saying what actually happened was her mother had an altercation with a woman at work. Blake has a sick way of twisting the truth. She is a liar.

You are using the word "lie" incorrectly. She didn't lie. She omitted a fact that provides a potential defense for Baldoni. That's not only okay, it's practically required. Lawyers are not supposed to provide defendants with arguments in a complaint. The assumption is that Baldoni will come back and say "I said that but I was just referring to the smell of her spray tan." That's how this works.

She was not lying about the comment bothering her -- we see her react immediately, in the moment, to the comment and she is bothered by it.

So she didn't lie. You just do not think, in context, that this allegation constitutes harassment. That's fine! Say that. Don't walk around claiming she lied when she told the truth and you just disagree with her take.

You’re working overtime to make fetch happen.

Just the runaround you give this poster when she is, again, making comments based in fact that you simply don’t like is sad and dishonest.

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Anonymous wrote:Andy from popcorned planet has been talking to iewu crew members and he just revealed that allegedly Blake had chronic cold sores during the filming and Justin and everyone was grossed out but tried to remain professional and makeup was scrambling to cover the cold sores…

I dislike Blake and think that would be troubling on a film set where people have to kiss, but the tone of this is childish. Something like half the population has the virus that causes cold sores and it's not like it's the result of someone doing something bad. Like you don't get a cold sore because you are unhygienic or a bad person. People just get them.

I also have trouble believing she had active cold sores during filming. She's in like every scene and there are a lot of close ups. I would NEVER agree to be on screen when I had a cold sore! Even if you catch it early and treat it immediately, it would be visible, Even with great makeup. I would assume instead they'd get a prescription immediately and shuffle around filming scenes as well as they could until it was totally gone. With good meds that might only take a couple days, and if you stayed on the medication there is not way they would come back. So this rumor strains credulity for me. At most she had one cold sore and presumably it was treated. And cold sores are unpleasant but in a professional setting people should be able to be mature about a medical issue that just needs to be treated and resolved. What if an actor got cystic acne while shooting? Is it appropriate to gossip about how "grossed out" everyone on set was about it? Grow up.

Just the messenger here. The point they’re trying to make is that Baldoni wasn’t looking to add “gratuitous” kissing and that in fact the opposite is true. People have also been pointing out that the fact Baldoni doesn’t bring this up in his complaint shows that he’s a professional and doesn’t want to embarrass Blake, even though she’s called him gross and everything else under the sun.

I mean it's a rumor, this is all speculation. If true and he brought it up in his complaint, it could be considered an improper disclosure of medical information. Especially since it's not relevant to any of his claims -- he's not claiming she infected him with cold sores. So it would look extremely petty AND risk getting slapped by the judge for introducing medical info just to embarrass her. It would be dumb.

Also in the video that was released, there's no question that he's trying to be more physically intimate with their faces than she is. She keeps leaning back away from him and trying to maintain conversation during the shoot, and he initiates every single instance of their faces touching. This both undermines the idea that she had cold sores the whole time and he was grossed out, and also does actually back up the whole "gratuitous kissing" argument on her side, even if her description of that scene is significantly less dramatic than what plays out on screen.

I see once again we're doing an analysis of that video. She lied. End of. She claimed she was harassed by Justin who was whispering sweet nothings in her ear and wanted to talk when the scene didn't even call for talking, when it turns out she was the one who wanted them to be conversing.

Lying would be her claiming he said something he didn't say, or that he grabbed her butt or something when we can all say he didn't.

She has an interpretation of that scene that does not seem 100% accurate when I watch it. That doesn't mean she was lying. I believe her when she says that she found his comment about her smelling good to cross a line. And he does say it, and he says it while nuzzling her neck and arm. But I can ALSO see how he believed himself to just be responding to her comment about spray tan. I genuinely think there are just two ways to look at that.

Also, you are misrepresenting her allegations regarding the dialogue in the scene. She says, accurately, the scene does not call for dialogue between the characters, and that it was not intended to have audio of them but to be set under the film score. That's correct. She does advocate for the characters to be talking in the scene, but with the obvious understanding that what they are actually saying doesn't matter and doesn't even need to be in character, since they were not trying to capture dialogue. Her objection to his "you smell good" comment is that this was clearly Justin saying it to Blake, out of character, but it felt uncomfortable to her because of the way it was said and what he was doing when he said it. I can look at it and say "eh, gray area -- he's trying to act out his character's interest in her character at the same time as he's making an out-of-character comment about her spray tan, and it comes off kind of like a come on, but I don't think was intended that way." But that's different from saying "she lied."

I get frustrated with the comments about Lively being a liar or claiming she's an evil person who is just out to get Justin, because I don't really see evidence of that. I think Lively genuinely believes her allegations. That doesn't mean they are true and he's guilty -- the dancing video shows the degree to which it really can be a matter of interpretation, and if ALL her allegations come down to something like that, especially anything caught on camera, I don't think she was SHed. But I also don't think she's an evil mastermind of some kind of film theft because even in that video I can see how and why she might have felt like his behavior crossed lines, and if some of her other allegations are not so nuanced and turn out to be clearer examples of the line crossing, then maybe she *was* SHed.

Screaming "she lied, she lied" all the time does make me think less of people's arguments because we really do NOT know that. She may have misinterpreted events and her descriptions may be inaccurate. There is no evidence she is lying or just making things up. She may in fact be describing what happened exactly as she remembers it.

You are wrong here. She blatantly lied. She said that he nuzzled her neck and said it smelled so good.

He nozzled her neck. She said I bet you can smell my spray tan or something like that.

He said, it smells good?

Not smells so good and not right after nuzzling her neck.

That is a lie. It was completely meant to mislead people into thinking he was gross when he was just trying to converse with her.

I don't even understand this response.

Did he nuzzle her neck, even though she'd stated previously she thought their characters would be talking instead, and she repeatedly leans away from him and breaks their physical contact? Yes. Two different interpretations, but not a lie.

In her original complaint she does say that he says "it smells so good" and we see on the video he actually said "it smells good." But he *does* say it and he says it while nuzzling her. She corrects it in her amended complaint, and her original quote was very close and likely a misremembering (she did not have the benefit of the video and appears to have believed it was recorded without audio so was basing it exclusively on her recollection). So a misremembering and different interpretation, but not a lie.

She was clearly grossed out by his comment about it smelling good, because in the video we see her once again push back and make a comment like "no, actually it's my makeup" in a tone that illustrates she did not think that what he said was appropriate. It's clear *in the video* that she has interpreted his comment to cross a line and is bothered by it, and she objects to it during the video. So: not a lie. She didn't like the comment, felt it was inappropriate, and mostly remembers the interaction accurately, but has one interpretation of it while Baldoni and others feel her interpretation is wrong, that she is overreacting to his behavior and comment. It's fine to say you think she overreacted (I actually agree with that), but it is not accurate to say "she lied."

It is 100% accurate to say she lied. The fact that she omitted the part where she said “I’m probably getting my spray tan on you” clearly makes the whole story a lie. When you omit facts to intentionally mislead, it’s a lie. That’s what Blake did to the paparazzo. She said he blocked them with his car, when he was actually on foot and it was all on camera. That’s what some allege she did with her time speech. Calling her mother’s attacker a work acquaintance and vaguely referring to a crime so we would fill in the blanks that a man had assaulted her mother, but now some are saying what actually happened was her mother had an altercation with a woman at work. Blake has a sick way of twisting the truth. She is a liar.

You are using the word "lie" incorrectly. She didn't lie. She omitted a fact that provides a potential defense for Baldoni. That's not only okay, it's practically required. Lawyers are not supposed to provide defendants with arguments in a complaint. The assumption is that Baldoni will come back and say "I said that but I was just referring to the smell of her spray tan." That's how this works.

She was not lying about the comment bothering her -- we see her react immediately, in the moment, to the comment and she is bothered by it.

So she didn't lie. You just do not think, in context, that this allegation constitutes harassment. That's fine! Say that. Don't walk around claiming she lied when she told the truth and you just disagree with her take.

You're telling this poster to just say what they think, but they can't say they think Blake lied? Why do you want them to equivocate?

Whether or not she lied is an objective fact. Either she lied or she didn't. I am using the dictionary definition of "lie" -- an intentionally false statement -- and it doesn't apply here. Her statements are not false, they just aren't the full story. And she genuinely seems to believe what she is asserting.

You can't just say "I think she lied" but then not point to any specific example of a lie in her complaint. People point to what they believe to be misinterpretations of events, and to additional context they believe proves that Blake's interpretation is incorrect. Great. But that's different from her being a liar. Where is the lie?