Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

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Never Glennon who I considered to be a clear toxic narcissist from the get go.

Years ago, when a Jen fan, I checked out Momastery and while I liked Glennon's writing and really liked a couple of her posts, she had a crazy-eyed look that made me think she was a little cuckoo. And...here we are. She is actually mentally ill. Her sister is a brat and Abby is trying to make the relationship work with all her Olympian strength but wow, it's a struggle.
I can't even bring myself to hate-listen to her podcast.

It's getting more and more painful to listen to their podcast. Last week with Liz Gilbert was almost unbearable. Your short summary really hits the nail on the head with these 3. And brace yourselves, now that Glennon "writes from love" and figured out what "forgiveness" is (of course, none of the rest of us peasants could ever truly understand or experience forgiveness without Glennon's "definition"), she's considering writing another book.

Of the blonde basic privileged white warriors trying to sell us how to live our lives at least Jen and Rachel Hollis have been smart enough to know they are too ignorant to jump into the Middle East conflict, but not Glennon. She belly-flopped right in and told people what to think and do using some of the propaganda language used on Tiktok, but she cleverly wove into some posts in a way that wasn't too obvious in the hopes people wouldn't call her out. I don't think Glennon has another book to write that anyone would read unless Abby dumps her Glennon writes a tell-all. I don't think any of the ladies have anything left to say in a book that anyone wants to read.

Can you even imagine Jen, Glennon and Rachel H and anyone else in their genre trying to adjust life outside the limelight?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does she have any money?

Alimony/child support, I’m guessing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does she have any money?

Alimony/child support, I’m guessing.

She makes money every time she sells something useless on IG. She sells wine subscriptions, and all sorts of random useless products. Social influencers can make a small fortune. She is CONSTANTLY seeling something. She has enough of a following these companies probably pay her well to create "ads."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Never Glennon who I considered to be a clear toxic narcissist from the get go.

Years ago, when a Jen fan, I checked out Momastery and while I liked Glennon's writing and really liked a couple of her posts, she had a crazy-eyed look that made me think she was a little cuckoo. And...here we are. She is actually mentally ill. Her sister is a brat and Abby is trying to make the relationship work with all her Olympian strength but wow, it's a struggle.
I can't even bring myself to hate-listen to her podcast.

It's getting more and more painful to listen to their podcast. Last week with Liz Gilbert was almost unbearable. Your short summary really hits the nail on the head with these 3. And brace yourselves, now that Glennon "writes from love" and figured out what "forgiveness" is (of course, none of the rest of us peasants could ever truly understand or experience forgiveness without Glennon's "definition"), she's considering writing another book.

omg every time Glennon seems to think she has some new thing to say, it's just so aggravating. I thought she had something new to say with @love warrior" but then, that was a complete farce, as a reader above mentioned. Then, with "Untamed" she was supposed to be all free and reborn, and admitted that she's been anorexic the entire time. It's sad that she was suffering , but she made MILLIONS pretending she was more evolved than everyone else. I don't wish any unhappiness or illness on anyone, butI do expect transparency--instead we get influencers like Glennon and Jen who act as if they are superior, having lt all figured out.

I have mixed feelings on Glennon, but she didn't have to disclose her health condition to the whole world on her podcast, and she did, knowing it would absolutely be seen by many as hypocritical. Isn't that transparency? When she wrote Untamed, she didn't know she was anorexic. She had a hard time accepting it apparently even when told quite bluntly by specialists - that kind of denial is part of the disease, which is what the specialist told her when she denied it. Anyone who reads any of her books and thinks they're suggestive that she (or anyone's books, thinking they) "have it all figured out" has their own problems. There's not a single book in the world written by someone who actually has it "all figured out." "All figured out" doesn't exist. In any event, I think it's shitty to rag on someone for their health condition, that they opted to disclose and certainly didn't have to.

[Anonymous]

This week Jen is talking about the “Vagina Bible”. As she says, “Of yes, we’re going there!”. Is she fifteen? The cringe is off the charts.

Wasn’t this supposed to be the Month of Fear, or something?

She’s all over the place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Never Glennon who I considered to be a clear toxic narcissist from the get go.

Years ago, when a Jen fan, I checked out Momastery and while I liked Glennon's writing and really liked a couple of her posts, she had a crazy-eyed look that made me think she was a little cuckoo. And...here we are. She is actually mentally ill. Her sister is a brat and Abby is trying to make the relationship work with all her Olympian strength but wow, it's a struggle.
I can't even bring myself to hate-listen to her podcast.

It's getting more and more painful to listen to their podcast. Last week with Liz Gilbert was almost unbearable. Your short summary really hits the nail on the head with these 3. And brace yourselves, now that Glennon "writes from love" and figured out what "forgiveness" is (of course, none of the rest of us peasants could ever truly understand or experience forgiveness without Glennon's "definition"), she's considering writing another book.

omg every time Glennon seems to think she has some new thing to say, it's just so aggravating. I thought she had something new to say with @love warrior" but then, that was a complete farce, as a reader above mentioned. Then, with "Untamed" she was supposed to be all free and reborn, and admitted that she's been anorexic the entire time. It's sad that she was suffering , but she made MILLIONS pretending she was more evolved than everyone else. I don't wish any unhappiness or illness on anyone, butI do expect transparency--instead we get influencers like Glennon and Jen who act as if they are superior, having lt all figured out.

I have mixed feelings on Glennon, but she didn't have to disclose her health condition to the whole world on her podcast, and she did, knowing it would absolutely be seen by many as hypocritical. Isn't that transparency? When she wrote Untamed, she didn't know she was anorexic. She had a hard time accepting it apparently even when told quite bluntly by specialists - that kind of denial is part of the disease, which is what the specialist told her when she denied it. Anyone who reads any of her books and thinks they're suggestive that she (or anyone's books, thinking they) "have it all figured out" has their own problems. There's not a single book in the world written by someone who actually has it "all figured out." "All figured out" doesn't exist. In any event, I think it's shitty to rag on someone for their health condition, that they opted to disclose and certainly didn't have to.

Glennon has gone on record saying she had a chapter on her disordered eating that was CUT from "Untamed" because she felt that younger readers would find it discouraging that she still struggled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Never Glennon who I considered to be a clear toxic narcissist from the get go.

Years ago, when a Jen fan, I checked out Momastery and while I liked Glennon's writing and really liked a couple of her posts, she had a crazy-eyed look that made me think she was a little cuckoo. And...here we are. She is actually mentally ill. Her sister is a brat and Abby is trying to make the relationship work with all her Olympian strength but wow, it's a struggle.
I can't even bring myself to hate-listen to her podcast.


I have mixed feelings on Glennon, but she didn't have to disclose her health condition to the whole world on her podcast, and she did, knowing it would absolutely be seen by many as hypocritical. Isn't that transparency? When she wrote Untamed, she didn't know she was anorexic. She had a hard time accepting it apparently even when told quite bluntly by specialists - that kind of denial is part of the disease, which is what the specialist told her when she denied it. Anyone who reads any of her books and thinks they're suggestive that she (or anyone's books, thinking they) "have it all figured out" has their own problems. There's not a single book in the world written by someone who actually has it "all figured out." "All figured out" doesn't exist. In any event, I think it's shitty to rag on someone for their health condition, that they opted to disclose and certainly didn't have to.

Point received and taken.

[Anonymous]

There's not a single book in the world written by someone who actually has it "all figured out." "All figured out" doesn't exist. In any event, I think it's shitty to rag on someone for their health condition, that they opted to disclose and certainly didn't have to.



Point taken.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is selfish about sharing your own story? What Brandon did was much more selfish and had a greater impact on their children than any book Jen may write. Brandon, of all people, had to have known that Jen would write a book about this. If there’s one constant in her life, it’s writing. I don’t even think it’ll be a “tell all.” I think she’ll remain vague, but even if she gives details—it’s her story to tell.

Why do people need to know? Why do we need a book about it? So we can all gape in fascination at the details of Jen's life and marriage falling apart? Like I said, she needs to disappear from public life and become an ordinary person. She can share her story with people who actually know her. We don't need to know.

She’s only sharing her story with people who choose to engage with it. She’s actually fairly ordinary and relatively unknown outside of a very specific demographic.

[Anonymous]

Is this the Month of Fear?

Or is it the Month of Kickin’ Ass And Takin’ Names!?

Or is the Month of the Vagina Bible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to know the country song from 2020/2021 that should couldn't listen to because it was too close to her own story.

Theories?

Maybe “I Hope” by Gabby Barrett?

[Anonymous]

I’ve never heard her use the term kicking ass and taking names before, and now she’s bringing it up repeatedly, and adding the KATN term so we know that.

My prediction: KATN will be the name of her next book .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is selfish about sharing your own story? What Brandon did was much more selfish and had a greater impact on their children than any book Jen may write. Brandon, of all people, had to have known that Jen would write a book about this. If there’s one constant in her life, it’s writing. I don’t even think it’ll be a “tell all.” I think she’ll remain vague, but even if she gives details—it’s her story to tell.

Why do people need to know? Why do we need a book about it? So we can all gape in fascination at the details of Jen's life and marriage falling apart? Like I said, she needs to disappear from public life and become an ordinary person. She can share her story with people who actually know her. We don't need to know.

She’s only sharing her story with people who choose to engage with it. She’s actually fairly ordinary and relatively unknown outside of a very specific demographic.

You are missing the point-for these ladies the story is not HER story, it's a FAMILY story. Their sharing "with people who choose to engage with it" affects everyone in that story. There is a reason BOUNDARIES are a big buzzword. It's because they are essential to mental health and the lack of boundaries these women show is a sign of disorder. It's one thing to share your story when you kids are truly adults-maybe in their 30s and understand the consent aspect fully and you have gotten all the therapy and processed it fully and truly have wisdom to share. Glennon is acting out her mental illness struggles in real time....I saved my marriage....nope we are getting divorced....timeline with Abby keeps changing as to when they met...rush into marriage with another recovered alcoholic....marriage is wonderful....having struggles, need lots of therapy....I have been recovered from ED for years....currently struggling with ED have been for years.

Jen is in the same struggle....I'm all better, new boyfriend, new boyfriend seems to be checked out....Jen obsessed with ex husband and talking about him....gets new hair color that looks like ex's new wife, but totally better and has lots of wisdom to share, but sometimes seems intoxicated on IG and sells wine, but I am healed and have advice!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is selfish about sharing your own story? What Brandon did was much more selfish and had a greater impact on their children than any book Jen may write. Brandon, of all people, had to have known that Jen would write a book about this. If there’s one constant in her life, it’s writing. I don’t even think it’ll be a “tell all.” I think she’ll remain vague, but even if she gives details—it’s her story to tell.

Why do people need to know? Why do we need a book about it? So we can all gape in fascination at the details of Jen's life and marriage falling apart? Like I said, she needs to disappear from public life and become an ordinary person. She can share her story with people who actually know her. We don't need to know.

She’s only sharing her story with people who choose to engage with it. She’s actually fairly ordinary and relatively unknown outside of a very specific demographic.

You are missing the point-for these ladies the story is not HER story, it's a FAMILY story. Their sharing "with people who choose to engage with it" affects everyone in that story. There is a reason BOUNDARIES are a big buzzword. It's because they are essential to mental health and the lack of boundaries these women show is a sign of disorder. It's one thing to share your story when you kids are truly adults-maybe in their 30s and understand the consent aspect fully and you have gotten all the therapy and processed it fully and truly have wisdom to share. Glennon is acting out her mental illness struggles in real time....I saved my marriage....nope we are getting divorced....timeline with Abby keeps changing as to when they met...rush into marriage with another recovered alcoholic....marriage is wonderful....having struggles, need lots of therapy....I have been recovered from ED for years....currently struggling with ED have been for years.

Jen is in the same struggle....I'm all better, new boyfriend, new boyfriend seems to be checked out....Jen obsessed with ex husband and talking about him....gets new hair color that looks like ex's new wife, but totally better and has lots of wisdom to share, but sometimes seems intoxicated on IG and sells wine, but I am healed and have advice!

And..Rachel Hollis....I have the perfect marriage!! Lots of work, but it's soooo good. Come to our seminar to learn how to have an amazing marriage, give me your money and find out all. We make out all the time. So amazing. We are getting divorced. Please respect our privacy. Dave spirals and eventually dies of a drug overdose. What were they selling? And they adopted a child into this perfect marriage. And we know all about their kids and issues with the grandparents. BUT it's just Rachel's story and she's not doing any harm putting it all out there?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: And..Rachel Hollis....I have the perfect marriage!! Lots of work, but it's soooo good. Come to our seminar to learn how to have an amazing marriage, give me your money and find out all. We make out all the time. So amazing. We are getting divorced. Please respect our privacy. Dave spirals and eventually dies of a drug overdose. What were they selling? And they adopted a child into this perfect marriage. And we know all about their kids and issues with the grandparents. BUT it's just Rachel's story and she's not doing any harm putting it all out there?!

What are the issues with the Hollis kids and the Hollis grandparents?