Biles out

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

+1 And people who criticize her dropping out while also saying they don't mean her any harm don't know what they're talking about. She dropped out because there was a good probability of severe bodily harm.

[Anonymous]

Every once in awhile there comes a young gymnast who does not make many mistakes. They are lauded.

But usually, the top gymnasts do make a few bobbles in a high level competition. This is normal.

Biles was a gymnast that last Olympics did not make many of those normal bobbles. Whatever happened recently, she quit 5% in to her 2nd Olympics.

Oh well. There could be many reasons for that. That's too bad she didn't retire several months ago. Or create routines she was more confident about. Or brush off the "be perfect all the time" BS.

Just do your best, as all the athletes who did perform this week, did. Well prepared, trained, ready. Just do your best and everything will be OK. Look at Ledecky getting 5th in a race with 2 people crossing olympic records: "That was a tough race!" And it was. THen she went and swam and won her 1500m.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile there comes a young gymnast who does not make many mistakes. They are lauded.

But usually, the top gymnasts do make a few bobbles in a high level competition. This is normal.

Biles was a gymnast that last Olympics did not make many of those normal bobbles. Whatever happened recently, she quit 5% in to her 2nd Olympics.

Oh well. There could be many reasons for that. That's too bad she didn't retire several months ago. Or create routines she was more confident about. Or brush off the "be perfect all the time" BS.

Just do your best, as all the athletes who did perform this week, did. Well prepared, trained, ready. Just do your best and everything will be OK. Look at Ledecky getting 5th in a race with 2 people crossing olympic records: "That was a tough race!" And it was. THen she went and swam and won her 1500m.

Honey, you don't know what you're talking about. "Just do it your best and everything will be OK" is one of the most asinine things I've read on this thread and only someone who is a complete ignoramus about gymnastics could say something that idiotic.

A tough race for a swimmer doesn't result in life-threatening injury. Mistakes in gymnastics can result in complete paralysis or death.

Elena Mukina. Julissa Gomez. Sang Lan.

These women were catastrophically injured and died as a result of competing in gymnastics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/28/sports/olympics/biles-gymnastics-injuries.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julissa_Gomez#:~:text=Julissa%20D'Anne%20Gomez%20(November,eventually%20died%20from%20her%20injury.

As someone who did gymnastics as a child, this is a sport where the risk of injury is tremendous.

As for why Simone Biles didn't retire a few months ago, it's because she was performing beautifully then. The twisties are not the same thing as a few "bobbloes." They are life threatening.

So, unless you've at least done a back handspring on a vault, don't tell me what happened to Simone was "a few bobbles." It is f*&Jin terrifying as a gymnast not to know where you are in the air.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every once in awhile there comes a young gymnast who does not make many mistakes. They are lauded.

But usually, the top gymnasts do make a few bobbles in a high level competition. This is normal.

Biles was a gymnast that last Olympics did not make many of those normal bobbles. Whatever happened recently, she quit 5% in to her 2nd Olympics.

Oh well. There could be many reasons for that. That's too bad she didn't retire several months ago. Or create routines she was more confident about. Or brush off the "be perfect all the time" BS.

Just do your best, as all the athletes who did perform this week, did. Well prepared, trained, ready. Just do your best and everything will be OK. Look at Ledecky getting 5th in a race with 2 people crossing olympic records: "That was a tough race!" And it was. THen she went and swam and won her 1500m.

You can get injured swimming but you won't fall on your head and perhaps be paralyzed for the rest of your life due to a mistake. Totally different. And it has happened when pressured to continue competing, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/28/sports/olympics/biles-gymnastics-injuries.html.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Again, for the hundredth time, NO ONE thinks she should have continued if she felt unsafe. I don’t know why this brought up over and over.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be critical discussion on the larger picture of what happened. But to say anything remotely critical of Simone right now means you are a right wing racist bigot- according to your algorithm. Any public figure that says anything but praise would be a PR nightmare.

[Anonymous]

So why are these girls in the position to put their lives on the line for a moment in the spotlight? You all have spent 56 pages on this. You are part of the pressure these young people feel. You are part of the problem.

And now you will all squawk but you know it’s true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Again, for the hundredth time, NO ONE thinks she should have continued if she felt unsafe. I don’t know why this brought up over and over.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be critical discussion on the larger picture of what happened. But to say anything remotely critical of Simone right now means you are a right wing racist bigot- according to your algorithm. Any public figure that says anything but praise would be a PR nightmare.

I am the immediate PP, who did not post the algorithm, but replied to it.

Yeah, there's a lot of underlying racism in the comments about Simone Biles.

The "anything remotely critical" I've been reading hasn't been "remotely" anything. It's bashing her for deciding not to continue in the competition, with a lot of ridiculous people calling her a quitter. And, yes, everything is much more loaded, because she is a woman who was sexually abused by someone her sport's governing body protected. I think it's incredible that she's come this far.

One of the reasons she chose to compete was, as she said during an interview, was that she felt that unless someone currently competing was part of the movement to hold the Nassar and the USAG responsible for the horrific abuse of gymnasts, it would be brushed under the rug.

Who knows why Simone got the twisties. It doesn't matter. But, yeah, I don't think any of those who are criticizing have the right to do so. And, yeah. There are a lot of racists in the commentary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Again, for the hundredth time, NO ONE thinks she should have continued if she felt unsafe. I don’t know why this brought up over and over.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be critical discussion on the larger picture of what happened. But to say anything remotely critical of Simone right now means you are a right wing racist bigot- according to your algorithm. Any public figure that says anything but praise would be a PR nightmare.

No but some of you think she should have known it would be unsafe to compete early enough to call in an alternate, clearly not understanding when exactly that would have had to be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Yes most people are not elite athletes, that's why we watch the Olympics to be inspired and in awe of the human potential. Simone is a great gymnast, but she literally had a meltdown in the middle of the competition, that's what that was, she crumbled under pressure. She lost her mojo and I hope she finds it in time for the individual competition, would make for a great comeback story

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Again, for the hundredth time, NO ONE thinks she should have continued if she felt unsafe. I don’t know why this brought up over and over.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be critical discussion on the larger picture of what happened. But to say anything remotely critical of Simone right now means you are a right wing racist bigot- according to your algorithm. Any public figure that says anything but praise would be a PR nightmare.

I am the immediate PP, who did not post the algorithm, but replied to it.

Yeah, there's a lot of underlying racism in the comments about Simone Biles.

The "anything remotely critical" I've been reading hasn't been "remotely" anything. It's bashing her for deciding not to continue in the competition, with a lot of ridiculous people calling her a quitter. And, yes, everything is much more loaded, because she is a woman who was sexually abused by someone her sport's governing body protected. I think it's incredible that she's come this far.

One of the reasons she chose to compete was, as she said during an interview, was that she felt that unless someone currently competing was part of the movement to hold the Nassar and the USAG responsible for the horrific abuse of gymnasts, it would be brushed under the rug.

Who knows why Simone got the twisties. It doesn't matter. But, yeah, I don't think any of those who are criticizing have the right to do so. And, yeah. There are a lot of racists in the commentary.

+1 Beautifully put and on point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Again, for the hundredth time, NO ONE thinks she should have continued if she felt unsafe. I don’t know why this brought up over and over.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be critical discussion on the larger picture of what happened. But to say anything remotely critical of Simone right now means you are a right wing racist bigot- according to your algorithm. Any public figure that says anything but praise would be a PR nightmare.

I am the immediate PP, who did not post the algorithm, but replied to it.

Yeah, there's a lot of underlying racism in the comments about Simone Biles.

The "anything remotely critical" I've been reading hasn't been "remotely" anything. It's bashing her for deciding not to continue in the competition, with a lot of ridiculous people calling her a quitter. And, yes, everything is much more loaded, because she is a woman who was sexually abused by someone her sport's governing body protected. I think it's incredible that she's come this far.

One of the reasons she chose to compete was, as she said during an interview, was that she felt that unless someone currently competing was part of the movement to hold the Nassar and the USAG responsible for the horrific abuse of gymnasts, it would be brushed under the rug.

Who knows why Simone got the twisties. It doesn't matter. But, yeah, I don't think any of those who are criticizing have the right to do so. And, yeah. There are a lot of racists in the commentary.

+1 Beautifully put and on point.

She will never shake it. She needs to retire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looked like a tamper tantrum after screwing up to me. If any of us walk out of our jobs after "anxiety" or "pressure" we're fired. But to a coddled arrogant multi-millionaire 24-yo athlete we have to understand? Please.

I agree. She was pissed she messed up and quit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looked like a tamper tantrum after screwing up to me. If any of us walk out of our jobs after "anxiety" or "pressure" we're fired. But to a coddled arrogant multi-millionaire 24-yo athlete we have to understand? Please.

I agree. She was pissed she messed up and quit.

Has anyone noticed that these mental breakdowns only seem to happen with U.S. athletes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel like criticizing Simone Biles, please refer to this decision tree from McSweeney's:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/are-you-allowed-to-criticize-simone-biles-a-decision-tree

JFC why does it always come down to skin color?

+1. Also, no one is above criticism. It’s part of life, especially if you willingly put yourself in the public sphere. Just because you are famous or rich or powerful or athletic, it doesn’t make you better than other people.

If we are not allowed to criticize anyone other than ourselves we should also not be allowed to praise anyone other than ourselves, right?

Most of the people criticizing Simone Biles are mediocre people and non-gymnasts. So, it's kind of like a fat blob criticizing the way LeBron James handled a play. It's pretty meaningless.

Simone Biles competed at the World Championships while passing a kidney stone. Don't talk to me about this woman's toughness. She is 24-years old, which sadly is really old for a gymnast, and she has pushed the limits of gymnastic further than anyone who has preceded her.

Every. Single. Gymnast. who has chimed in has said why it was right for Simone to withdraw. Being off in gymnastics with the level of speed and height they work with, it can be life-threatening to be off.

https://www.newsweek.com/horrifying-dominique-moceanu-injury-video-simone-biles-withdraw-1614225

Again, for the hundredth time, NO ONE thinks she should have continued if she felt unsafe. I don’t know why this brought up over and over.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be critical discussion on the larger picture of what happened. But to say anything remotely critical of Simone right now means you are a right wing racist bigot- according to your algorithm. Any public figure that says anything but praise would be a PR nightmare.

I am the immediate PP, who did not post the algorithm, but replied to it.

Yeah, there's a lot of underlying racism in the comments about Simone Biles.

The "anything remotely critical" I've been reading hasn't been "remotely" anything. It's bashing her for deciding not to continue in the competition, with a lot of ridiculous people calling her a quitter. And, yes, everything is much more loaded, because she is a woman who was sexually abused by someone her sport's governing body protected. I think it's incredible that she's come this far.

One of the reasons she chose to compete was, as she said during an interview, was that she felt that unless someone currently competing was part of the movement to hold the Nassar and the USAG responsible for the horrific abuse of gymnasts, it would be brushed under the rug.

Who knows why Simone got the twisties. It doesn't matter. But, yeah, I don't think any of those who are criticizing have the right to do so. And, yeah. There are a lot of racists in the commentary.

None of the criticism I’ve seen has underlying racism.