APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

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I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

Boundaries will be defined this fall. Use current ASFS boundary as a starting point.

It needs a name, program/curriculum, principal, etc. Takes time to start a new school.

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Anonymous wrote:At least one of her comments, the one questioning the “angle” of the Jamestown mom, was edited or deleted from AEM. I wonder who requested the removal.

Eh, she might have just thought better of it on reflection and deleted the comment herself. Let’s not get too tinfoil-hatty here.

Given the history of her comments, unlikely. Though, I admit, I don't know what comment is being referred to here - I didn't see it. Or maybe I did and didn't see it as any surprise...

DP. The comment was odd, something like “I remember your family from when I taught at Jamestown. Not sure what your angle is here...”

It was a very strange comment. Given all of her comments, I wonder what was going through her head in the years she was teaching at Jamestown.

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Anonymous wrote:At least one of her comments, the one questioning the “angle” of the Jamestown mom, was edited or deleted from AEM. I wonder who requested the removal.

Eh, she might have just thought better of it on reflection and deleted the comment herself. Let’s not get too tinfoil-hatty here.

Given the history of her comments, unlikely. Though, I admit, I don't know what comment is being referred to here - I didn't see it. Or maybe I did and didn't see it as any surprise...

DP. The comment was odd, something like “I remember your family from when I taught at Jamestown. Not sure what your angle is here...”

It was a very strange comment. Given all of her comments, I wonder what was going through her head in the years she was teaching at Jamestown.

She's really young- I don't know how long she taught at Jamestown but it couldn't have been more than a year or possibly two. Honestly- she's just immature and very millennial. She is trying to 'speak for the uneducated, impoverished Hispanic community' and she kind of tries to pretend that she is part of it- but she is not and never was. Her MOTHER teaches at Key as well- having a mother who is a teacher is a totally different experience than having uneducated parents working multiple jobs.

Really- this is the issue with all the rabid keep Key on Key posters- they just doesn't want their life disrupted, but have taken on this cloak of social justice warrior, because that is much more emotionally appealing than admitting to themselves that this is really all about them and what has worked for them. They have completely convinced themselves that they are fighting for the greater good- which is why its so hard to have a rational conversation.

And the reality is- it WILL be disruptive. It is extremely disruptive to staff to have to back up everything, get used to new commuting patterns, etc. I don't have a problem with them not wanting to move. But it is not an attack on immersion overall, it is an equitable solution, etc. as well.

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It’s not an attack on immersion overall, but I can’t envision how—say four or five years down the road—the county doesn’t decide to turn the ATS (relocated Key) site into a neighborhood school.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not an attack on immersion overall, but I can’t envision how—say four or five years down the road—the county doesn’t decide to turn the ATS (relocated Key) site into a neighborhood school.

Why do you think that? ATS is a crappy site for a neighborhood school because it’s so unwalkable, being there is somewhat insulating because it’s one of the last places APS would want to put a neighborhood school.

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Based on the crabpy McKinley map, ATS is a great site for a neighborhood school. It fixes their gerrymandered boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the crabpy McKinley map, ATS is a great site for a neighborhood school. It fixes their gerrymandered boundaries.

So the solution to a crappy gerrymandered map is to open up more neighborhood seats in the location McKinley and Ashlawn would have to draw from in order to fill their own schools, so all three locations are massively underutilized? Sure, that makes total sense.

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Anonymous wrote:ASFS be like: not enough popcorn in the world to enjoy this.

A lot of ASFS opposed the swap, and the new boundaries for Key will carve them up. This is basically the real end of ASFS.

I bet 75% of the current community will stay together and form a new great school at the Key location.

ASFS will continue to exist. I doubt it will change much unless the principal retires.

What are you talking about? A lot of ASFS will be redistricted to Key. They have to relieve the overcrowded at ASFS plus make room for all the kids that currently go to Taylor but could walk to ASFS, plus the “tail” of Ashlawn.

And then there is the Reed redistricting... I have no clue how staff is going to accomplish this.

Yes, I’m estimating that 75% of the current population will stay together and move together to the new Key location.

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Yes, I agree about that amount will move to Key. But how does ASFS stay the same? You mean the focus/attitude will stay even if the kids change?

Yes, it's a very transient area with kids coming in and out all of the time. With strong leadership from above, much will remain the same.

EL and economically-disadvantaged %s will down some but it will maintain some diversity from PUs in VA Square. Likely no Mongolian communities.

But overall I think it'll be pretty much the same.

Really no. It prides itself as an international community, but all the State Dept children with foreign born mothers and diverse immigrants from apts live in Rosslyn.

New ASFS will be much more white, akin to Taylor or Jamestown. I suspect with STEM hungry Asian tiger moms, Science enthusiasm will wane (it already has, no more music songs about chemistry ).

The casual anti-Asian bias in this post helps explain why most higher-income Asians avoid APS altogether.

I think most higher income people in general avoid APS. They want a 3 car garage and a house with furniture big enough for Paul Bunyan. Easy to find in western Fairfax and Loudon and closer to work, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

Boundaries will be defined this fall. Use current ASFS boundary as a starting point.

It needs a name, program/curriculum, principal, etc. Takes time to start a new school.

Is the idea of actually including all of the Key walk zone in its boundary completely off the table? As a tax payer, I'm really disturbed by all of the maps I see where they are busing hundreds of kids from LV/Clarendon/Courthouse who could walk to Key, in order to make space to bus kids from Rosslyn to Key. My kids will have aged out of this by the time this takes place, but what a waste of money! Can they at least do the upper and lower schools between Key and ASFS so you're only busing half of them? Especially the posters on here that are convinced that houses a block from Key won't be zoned there! Key's zone isn't going to go past Bryan Street -- you realize that that means busing kids that are within a third of a mile of the school? Give me a break! What a waste of money!

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

Boundaries will be defined this fall. Use current ASFS boundary as a starting point.

It needs a name, program/curriculum, principal, etc. Takes time to start a new school.

Is the idea of actually including all of the Key walk zone in its boundary completely off the table? As a tax payer, I'm really disturbed by all of the maps I see where they are busing hundreds of kids from LV/Clarendon/Courthouse who could walk to Key, in order to make space to bus kids from Rosslyn to Key. My kids will have aged out of this by the time this takes place, but what a waste of money! Can they at least do the upper and lower schools between Key and ASFS so you're only busing half of them? Especially the posters on here that are convinced that houses a block from Key won't be zoned there! Key's zone isn't going to go past Bryan Street -- you realize that that means busing kids that are within a third of a mile of the school? Give me a break! What a waste of money!

We haven't even started talking about boundaries yet, so no, nothing is off the table.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

Boundaries will be defined this fall. Use current ASFS boundary as a starting point.

It needs a name, program/curriculum, principal, etc. Takes time to start a new school.

Is the idea of actually including all of the Key walk zone in its boundary completely off the table? As a tax payer, I'm really disturbed by all of the maps I see where they are busing hundreds of kids from LV/Clarendon/Courthouse who could walk to Key, in order to make space to bus kids from Rosslyn to Key. My kids will have aged out of this by the time this takes place, but what a waste of money! Can they at least do the upper and lower schools between Key and ASFS so you're only busing half of them? Especially the posters on here that are convinced that houses a block from Key won't be zoned there! Key's zone isn't going to go past Bryan Street -- you realize that that means busing kids that are within a third of a mile of the school? Give me a break! What a waste of money!

Almost all of the Key walk zone is in the current ASFS boundary. I think they will try to keep as many walkers as they can.

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Re: Boundaries.

Assuming the move we know that 1/2 of McK will go to Reed, where are the other half of McK's crowd GOING.

Also, where's the other half of Reed COMING FROM?

I've seen the various maps; just find them really hard to read.

Is there a chart?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

Boundaries will be defined this fall. Use current ASFS boundary as a starting point.

It needs a name, program/curriculum, principal, etc. Takes time to start a new school.

Is the idea of actually including all of the Key walk zone in its boundary completely off the table? As a tax payer, I'm really disturbed by all of the maps I see where they are busing hundreds of kids from LV/Clarendon/Courthouse who could walk to Key, in order to make space to bus kids from Rosslyn to Key. My kids will have aged out of this by the time this takes place, but what a waste of money! Can they at least do the upper and lower schools between Key and ASFS so you're only busing half of them? Especially the posters on here that are convinced that houses a block from Key won't be zoned there! Key's zone isn't going to go past Bryan Street -- you realize that that means busing kids that are within a third of a mile of the school? Give me a break! What a waste of money!

It's basic math, folks. There are not enough seats at Key neighborhood elementary for all of Rosslyn AND Clarendon/Courthouse. Something has to to give. Let me guess, you want Rosslyn to take their long bus ride to Taylor so you can keep Clarendon and Courthouse at Key neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll assume arguendo that Key is going to move to ATS. How will this work in 2021-22 in terms of new boundary? Will Key have a new boundary and name when it reopens as a neighborhood school in 2021?

Boundaries will be defined this fall. Use current ASFS boundary as a starting point.

It needs a name, program/curriculum, principal, etc. Takes time to start a new school.

Is the idea of actually including all of the Key walk zone in its boundary completely off the table? As a tax payer, I'm really disturbed by all of the maps I see where they are busing hundreds of kids from LV/Clarendon/Courthouse who could walk to Key, in order to make space to bus kids from Rosslyn to Key. My kids will have aged out of this by the time this takes place, but what a waste of money! Can they at least do the upper and lower schools between Key and ASFS so you're only busing half of them? Especially the posters on here that are convinced that houses a block from Key won't be zoned there! Key's zone isn't going to go past Bryan Street -- you realize that that means busing kids that are within a third of a mile of the school? Give me a break! What a waste of money!

It's basic math, folks. There are not enough seats at Key neighborhood elementary for all of Rosslyn AND Clarendon/Courthouse. Something has to to give. Let me guess, you want Rosslyn to take their long bus ride to Taylor so you can keep Clarendon and Courthouse at Key neighborhood.

Outside of the walk zone could be on the chopping block.