The Pitt, Season 2

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Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

my wife would love to disagree with this post - She said under no circumstances would he even be let back in the same hospital again, but, I still enjoy the show for what it is. Great medical drama and I don't get too concerned with the specifics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

my wife would love to disagree with this post - She said under no circumstances would he even be let back in the same hospital again, but, I still enjoy the show for what it is. Great medical drama and I don't get too concerned with the specifics

I agree for private offices, but the ones who went sideways in the hospitals were not fired. Things may have changed now, as it's been years since I worked in a hospital

[Anonymous]

A big theme of the show is how different personality types handle stress and pressure. No one is really “right” or “wrong,” but they do suffer different consequences from their ways of coping. A lot of characters have opposite strengths and weaknesses. Robby compartmentalizes really well, but doesn’t deal with his feels as a result. Mohan empathizes super well, but can’t “shut off” her feelings and is suffering from that. Santos has a very strong sense of righteousness that causes her to get out over her skis every single time. Garcia is not at all emotionally affected by others’ actions or decisions but she is completely unable to connect with people. Etc.

And everyone on the show is in a different place in their journey. McKay actually seems like the most well adjusted person this season, because she already hit rock bottom and has had to rebuild. Robby is about to hit rock bottom. Al Hashimi is working through past trauma but it is a constant effort. Etc.

This is also why I don’t think it’s interesting to discuss Langdon vs. Santos as far as who is “right” or “wrong” - the show is more about how each person has to work through their own crap to be a better doctor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

my wife would love to disagree with this post - She said under no circumstances would he even be let back in the same hospital again, but, I still enjoy the show for what it is. Great medical drama and I don't get too concerned with the specifics

I agree for private offices, but the ones who went sideways in the hospitals were not fired. Things may have changed now, as it's been years since I worked in a hospital

DP. Langdon is still in residency. He definitely would have been dismissed from his program in real life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

Even though he substituted medicine and let it be administered to a patient? That is more than skimming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

My BIL was arrested for this (he plead down) and still has his license (nurse, not doctor). To be clear I am not a fan of him. Hospitals are desperate for staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watched the after show and am blown away that Whitaker actually has a British accent!

He’s Welsh!

The actress who plays Javadi is Australian.

The actor who plays Whitaker is also very physically different in interviews in his expressions and movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

I also know a drug rep that stole a Rx pad from a Dr to get pain meds before the days of tracking that stuff

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

Even though he substituted medicine and let it be administered to a patient? That is more than skimming.

Yes, people always skip over this. He didn't just divert medication for his own stash, he replaced a vial of Ativan with saline, resealed it, and put it back in the pharmaceutical cabinet for anyone to use. And then told an intern that it was normal for the vial to be very hard to open and that sometimes you need to double a patients dose and it's no big deal.

Someone on Reddit wondered if maybe the show wants us to forget that detail from Season 1, because it really complicates the narrative about Langdon returning, since that is absolutely a fireable offense and would likely lead to losing you medical license, even if you agree to whatever restrictions and rehab and all that. It's bigger than just a doctor have a substance abuse problem (which is sadly not that uncommon) or even diverting medication (which happens more frequently than anyone wants to admit). It exposes the hospital to major liability issues, which is why Langdon likely would not have his job if the hospital had been told that detail.

I am hoping they aren't dropping that part of his story and that it gets integrated into what's happening now. But that's the piece that people who are saying Langdon wouldn't be fired aren't picking up on. That detail makes Langdon's situation much worse than the other examples people have mentioned of doctors/nurses with addiction issues IRL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

I mean. He really should be in jail.

I work in health care and know people who have skimmed drugs at work or forged prescriptions. None have gone to jail. The board has suspended licenses until intervention programs were completed and had 2 to 5 yrs of supervision after, ie random drug screens etc. 2 people were terminated from their jobs but they were at private offices.

Even though he substituted medicine and let it be administered to a patient? That is more than skimming.

Yes, people always skip over this. He didn't just divert medication for his own stash, he replaced a vial of Ativan with saline, resealed it, and put it back in the pharmaceutical cabinet for anyone to use. And then told an intern that it was normal for the vial to be very hard to open and that sometimes you need to double a patients dose and it's no big deal.

Someone on Reddit wondered if maybe the show wants us to forget that detail from Season 1, because it really complicates the narrative about Langdon returning, since that is absolutely a fireable offense and would likely lead to losing you medical license, even if you agree to whatever restrictions and rehab and all that. It's bigger than just a doctor have a substance abuse problem (which is sadly not that uncommon) or even diverting medication (which happens more frequently than anyone wants to admit). It exposes the hospital to major liability issues, which is why Langdon likely would not have his job if the hospital had been told that detail.

I am hoping they aren't dropping that part of his story and that it gets integrated into what's happening now. But that's the piece that people who are saying Langdon wouldn't be fired aren't picking up on. That detail makes Langdon's situation much worse than the other examples people have mentioned of doctors/nurses with addiction issues IRL.

Very good point.

[Anonymous]

What’s happening with BABY JANE DAUGH??? Is anyone taking care of her?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand the way Robby treats Mohan, probably the best doctor there, with empathy to boot. So hard on her.

He is *such* a jerk to her, even last season when he was less of a jerk overall.

I feel like this will ultimately be explained as him trying to dissuade Mohan from emergency medicine because he thinks she's too sensitive (like him) and wants to spare her the grief and burnout. But it's impossible for it not to read as him taking out aggression on a female, not white, but incredible bly competent doctor with good bedside manner, while doting on Whitaker and talking him up all the time. And Langdon, another white guy, was his favorite before that.

Actually, I think there were genuine questions about her competence even last season. She might not be cut out for this.

It wasn't a question about her competence, it was Robby telling her she needed to spend less time talking to patients because they had a lot of pressure to treat patients more quickly and she needed to get her numbers up. That's not a competence issue, it's a speed and style issue.

Mohan might not be well suited for emergency medicine, sure. She's exploring other specialties for her fellowship and it's clear she's being thoughtful about what makes the most sense for her -- she might do better in a specialty where she can spend more time with patients and where there is lower stress overall. A good attending would be honest with her about her suitability for the specialty *without being an a**hole.* Mohan is not stubborn or arrogant, there's no indication that the only way to get through to her is to be blunt to the point of rudeness.

We've also seen her do her job very, very well on many occasions so I'm not convinced for certain that she isn't "cut out for it." The way Robby is behaving this season indicates HE might not be cut out for it, actually. Which is why it was especially rich when he was unloading on Mohan and telling her to "get it together" and learn to leave her life at the door. He is doing neither, it's BS. Mohan is more with it on this shift than Robby is, by a mile, and his behavior towards her is totally uncalled for. Her performance is actually extra impressive when you consider she's dealing with the added stress of being berated by her boss multiple times a day.

I kind of wonder if Robby thinks he's "mentoring" her, because she is too empathetic. He wants her to avoid the emotional connections that have caused his PTSD. Not agreeing with him, but this could be part of his motivation.

[Anonymous]

I hope Mohan doesn’t leave. I like her so much more than Santos. Not sure if that’s because of how Santos is played or if it’s intentional.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope Mohan doesn’t leave. I like her so much more than Santos. Not sure if that’s because of how Santos is played or if it’s intentional.

I admit I could take or leave quite a few of the characters. It's a huge cast. Santos is more interesting to me than Mohan. I barely know who Mohan is. Garcia is interesting only because she's so rude and she's dating Santos. Olgilvie is a construct. Joy is interesting. Perla and the other Filipino nurse are used well as characters, as is the new nurse - who is getting choked out!!

I could take or leave McKay. I find her irritating and they seemed to have dropped her storyline of her personal problems. Love Whitaker.

Al Hashimi is a robot, but a good foil to Robby.