Golden Bachelorette

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PASCAL id the worst, they way he blames being on the show as the fault of his kids. Literally like him saying “ my friend made
A bet with me that I could sleep with you- and I win the bet. I didn’t really want to. SURPRise! Ha ha ha!

No way, he was the worst. Red
Flag up and down. Listen to his language
“ just wanting to have a good time- doesn’t want to go deeper”
“ just want to see where this goes” uncommitted


I’m not sure how old you all are but in my
Generation- Pascal is a Fxkboy periodt

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent article with Pascal. He talks about the challenges of being from different cities and how Chock was like a stalker:

"Chock was all over her to the point where he was [like a] stalker. I mean, it was like, “I love you, let’s leave. Let’s do this, let’s do that.” And, “Which side of the bed are you sleeping on?” It’s bizarre behavior. I don’t know. “I can’t wait to be with you. I feel my love with you.” Maybe in Wichita there is no women. I don’t know."

https://www.glamour.com/story/the-golden-bachelorette-pascal-interview?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_source=glm-us

Great interview! And he sees what we all see.

I said from the beginning, if you take a 25- to 30-year-old kid who doesn’t have a pot to pee on, doesn’t own a car, who are in between jobs, who rent an apartment, who’s looking for an identity…it’s easy to say, “Hey, I’m going to move to LA, I’m going to move to New Orleans, and we’re going to make a living together.” But when you are like me, established, I have a business, I have real estate, I have my friends, I have my routine, I have my health club, I have my connection…I ain’t going to move anywhere. They should do The Golden Bachelor of Chicago, The Golden Bachelor of New York, The Golden Bachelor of LA, The Golden Bachelor of Miami.

Chicago’s got 13 million people. You tell me you can’t find 25 widowed or divorced people in that age group? Because in my age, I want to wake up with somebody, I want go to bed with somebody. I want to take a walk with somebody. I don’t want to get in a plane to go see somebody every two weeks. So, I think the concept that The Golden Bachelor needs to be modified to a way where they could accommodate the older generation like myself. To me, if I meet somebody who lives in [another suburb of Chicago], okay then. We could go spend every weekend together. We could spend couple nights a week together. But if you live in Washington DC, when am I going to see you? And I think, to me, that’s the biggest challenge I had with Joan. I didn’t want to invest because I want a partner on a daily basis.

Who would have thought that Pascal would be the most mature of all of the men in that house? I really like him after this very frank interview. I hope he finds someone great for him.

I wouldn't have guessed it from the beginning but now think he was the catch in the group. There were several great guys, and I hope they find what they are looking for (assuming it wasn't just a chance to be on TV).

Agree. I think Pascal is amazing.

I will obnoxiously claim credit for (I think) being the first to recognize what a great person Pascal is. Giving myself a 🏆

To the PP who said Chock is patient- are you on drugs. How is hogging a group date and talking marriage practically out of the gate patient? He just wants to close the deal. Yes it’s reality TV on a fast time clock but even so, Chock is ridiculous.

Chock wants to win. He would be acting the same way no matter who the bachelorette was.

100%.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. And of course men are attracted to youthful women. But I still think that women are competitive with each other and the initial motivation to improve looks is geared to awards what other women will think. Maybe I’m probably projecting. Because if I’m being honest - I know for myself I think about how other women view me even more than men.

I think trophy wives are in constant fear if being traded in for a newer model.

Are you a trophy wife yourself and know this firsthand?

Nothing could be further from the truth.

I am a well educated, independent woman who thinks kept wives are on the prostitution spectrum.

A "well educated, independent woman" wouldn't say this. Unless she is, unawares to herself, intellectually challenged. Or, perhaps, antifeminist.

And what is she doing on this silly entertainment forum if she’s so above it all?
Just because one member of a partnership is not working a traditional job doesn’t make them a prostitute.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent article with Pascal. He talks about the challenges of being from different cities and how Chock was like a stalker:

"Chock was all over her to the point where he was [like a] stalker. I mean, it was like, “I love you, let’s leave. Let’s do this, let’s do that.” And, “Which side of the bed are you sleeping on?” It’s bizarre behavior. I don’t know. “I can’t wait to be with you. I feel my love with you.” Maybe in Wichita there is no women. I don’t know."

https://www.glamour.com/story/the-golden-bachelorette-pascal-interview?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_source=glm-us

Great interview! And he sees what we all see.

I said from the beginning, if you take a 25- to 30-year-old kid who doesn’t have a pot to pee on, doesn’t own a car, who are in between jobs, who rent an apartment, who’s looking for an identity…it’s easy to say, “Hey, I’m going to move to LA, I’m going to move to New Orleans, and we’re going to make a living together.” But when you are like me, established, I have a business, I have real estate, I have my friends, I have my routine, I have my health club, I have my connection…I ain’t going to move anywhere. They should do The Golden Bachelor of Chicago, The Golden Bachelor of New York, The Golden Bachelor of LA, The Golden Bachelor of Miami.

Chicago’s got 13 million people. You tell me you can’t find 25 widowed or divorced people in that age group? Because in my age, I want to wake up with somebody, I want go to bed with somebody. I want to take a walk with somebody. I don’t want to get in a plane to go see somebody every two weeks. So, I think the concept that The Golden Bachelor needs to be modified to a way where they could accommodate the older generation like myself. To me, if I meet somebody who lives in [another suburb of Chicago], okay then. We could go spend every weekend together. We could spend couple nights a week together. But if you live in Washington DC, when am I going to see you? And I think, to me, that’s the biggest challenge I had with Joan. I didn’t want to invest because I want a partner on a daily basis.

Who would have thought that Pascal would be the most mature of all of the men in that house? I really like him after this very frank interview. I hope he finds someone great for him.

I wouldn't have guessed it from the beginning but now think he was the catch in the group. There were several great guys, and I hope they find what they are looking for (assuming it wasn't just a chance to be on TV).

Agree. I think Pascal is amazing.

I will obnoxiously claim credit for (I think) being the first to recognize what a great person Pascal is. Giving myself a 🏆

To the PP who said Chock is patient- are you on drugs. How is hogging a group date and talking marriage practically out of the gate patient? He just wants to close the deal. Yes it’s reality TV on a fast time clock but even so, Chock is ridiculous.

Chock wants to win. He would be acting the same way no matter who the bachelorette was.

100%.

Remember how at the hometown the first thing he said to his family was "I got the first date! I got the first kiss!" -- not "This is Joan!" or anything. He's like a kid announcing to his dad "I got the most goals! I ran the fastest!" It's all a game he is desperate to win because he is insecure and competitive, not because he connects with Joan.

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But does he really “win”? He’s stuck with a fake relationship and then has to answer to everyone if it doesn’t work out. Seems like the real winners are the guys that got some exposure and were well liked such as pascal and Jordan.

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Pascal will have publicity for his business and throngs of women interested in him. Same with Jordan. And for that matter so will Chock if things with Joan don’t work out. So it’s a win win for everyone. I guess everyone goes on the show to see what happens and to grab their fifteen minutes of fame. Not really for “true love”.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to see a study on why people don’t choose the person right for them. For all the crap chock is getting on this thread- he wears his heart on his sleeve, seems patient, isn’t holding back not an inch but she wants Pascal. And I would have thought at her ripe old age- she would not go for the guy that is unavailable. I’m scared to be learning if these lessons as a woman -at an old age. I don’t understand - chock sees her, makes her feel secure, loved, on and on but yet she wants the one that had to dig to the depths of the earth for an excuse of not being with her. Now I understand JLO.

Your problem is that you see Chock as the best pick. He is not! Why didn't he marry his fiancee of nine years? He's not wearing his heart on his sleeve, he's just a big talker whon won't shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:But does he really “win”? He’s stuck with a fake relationship and then has to answer to everyone if it doesn’t work out. Seems like the real winners are the guys that got some exposure and were well liked such as pascal and Jordan.

I saw the picture of Leslie and Jordan on Reddit. They look cute together!

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Anonymous wrote:I need to see a study on why people don’t choose the person right for them. For all the crap chock is getting on this thread- he wears his heart on his sleeve, seems patient, isn’t holding back not an inch but she wants Pascal. And I would have thought at her ripe old age- she would not go for the guy that is unavailable. I’m scared to be learning if these lessons as a woman -at an old age. I don’t understand - chock sees her, makes her feel secure, loved, on and on but yet she wants the one that had to dig to the depths of the earth for an excuse of not being with her. Now I understand JLO.

Your problem is that you see Chock as the best pick. He is not! Why didn't he marry his fiancee of nine years? He's not wearing his heart on his sleeve, he's just a big talker whon won't shut up.

Also Chock is a love bomber and too touchy and kissy. His behavior on the group date was disrespectful to the other men. On the date in Tahiti he said "I missed you so much" over and over versus having any kind of real conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to see a study on why people don’t choose the person right for them. For all the crap chock is getting on this thread- he wears his heart on his sleeve, seems patient, isn’t holding back not an inch but she wants Pascal. And I would have thought at her ripe old age- she would not go for the guy that is unavailable. I’m scared to be learning if these lessons as a woman -at an old age. I don’t understand - chock sees her, makes her feel secure, loved, on and on but yet she wants the one that had to dig to the depths of the earth for an excuse of not being with her. Now I understand JLO.

Your problem is that you see Chock as the best pick. He is not! Why didn't he marry his fiancee of nine years? He's not wearing his heart on his sleeve, he's just a big talker whon won't shut up.

Also Chock is a love bomber and too touchy and kissy. His behavior on the group date was disrespectful to the other men. On the date in Tahiti he said "I missed you so much" over and over versus having any kind of real conversation.

+1. And how he said he implied that he and Joan slept together during the overnight after she said she wasn't going to. He's gross.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to see a study on why people don’t choose the person right for them. For all the crap chock is getting on this thread- he wears his heart on his sleeve, seems patient, isn’t holding back not an inch but she wants Pascal. And I would have thought at her ripe old age- she would not go for the guy that is unavailable. I’m scared to be learning if these lessons as a woman -at an old age. I don’t understand - chock sees her, makes her feel secure, loved, on and on but yet she wants the one that had to dig to the depths of the earth for an excuse of not being with her. Now I understand JLO.

Your problem is that you see Chock as the best pick. He is not! Why didn't he marry his fiancee of nine years? He's not wearing his heart on his sleeve, he's just a big talker whon won't shut up.

Also Chock is a love bomber and too touchy and kissy. His behavior on the group date was disrespectful to the other men. On the date in Tahiti he said "I missed you so much" over and over versus having any kind of real conversation.

+1. And how he said he implied that he and Joan slept together during the overnight after she said she wasn't going to. He's gross.

I did not interpret his comments that way. It was very vague.

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Anonymous wrote:Pascal will have publicity for his business and throngs of women interested in him. Same with Jordan. And for that matter so will Chock if things with Joan don’t work out. So it’s a win win for everyone. I guess everyone goes on the show to see what happens and to grab their fifteen minutes of fame. Not really for “true love”.

I mean ... of course. If you go on there "for 'true love'" you are an idiot likely to be sorely disappointed.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to see a study on why people don’t choose the person right for them. For all the crap chock is getting on this thread- he wears his heart on his sleeve, seems patient, isn’t holding back not an inch but she wants Pascal. And I would have thought at her ripe old age- she would not go for the guy that is unavailable. I’m scared to be learning if these lessons as a woman -at an old age. I don’t understand - chock sees her, makes her feel secure, loved, on and on but yet she wants the one that had to dig to the depths of the earth for an excuse of not being with her. Now I understand JLO.

Your problem is that you see Chock as the best pick. He is not! Why didn't he marry his fiancee of nine years? He's not wearing his heart on his sleeve, he's just a big talker whon won't shut up.

Also Chock is a love bomber and too touchy and kissy. His behavior on the group date was disrespectful to the other men. On the date in Tahiti he said "I missed you so much" over and over versus having any kind of real conversation.

+1. And how he said he implied that he and Joan slept together during the overnight after she said she wasn't going to. He's gross.

+2 all he had to say was "it was wonderful to have the chance to speak privately"

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Anonymous wrote:The Pascal portion was pretty heartbreaking. He should have left earlier on but I think he just got carried away by the fun with the guys, the excitement, and wasn't really thinking fully until that weird ceremony at the beach (not a cool move by producers!) Meanwhile I feel like he was by far her favorite. Also didn't like what she had to say about her dh making everything an adventure when she clearly meant material goods and fancy travel, especially since he was a conman.

I don't blame Pascal. He asked Joan what she liked about him and all she could come up with was that he reminded her of her late husband and she liked the way he lived $$$ and mentioned cars and vacations. Very superficial

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Anonymous wrote:The Pascal portion was pretty heartbreaking. He should have left earlier on but I think he just got carried away by the fun with the guys, the excitement, and wasn't really thinking fully until that weird ceremony at the beach (not a cool move by producers!) Meanwhile I feel like he was by far her favorite. Also didn't like what she had to say about her dh making everything an adventure when she clearly meant material goods and fancy travel, especially since he was a conman.

I don't blame Pascal. He asked Joan what she liked about him and all she could come up with was that he reminded her of her late husband and she liked the way he lived $$$ and mentioned cars and vacations. Very superficial

Agree, I really lost interest in her when I saw her superficiality and learned about her husband's crimes.