Valor

[Anonymous]

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Are you happy with that team? It seems like the low level teams have the most unhappy
parents.

I'm curious as well. And did any of the third team players get moved up to the second team last year? Or 2nd team players moved down to 3rd?

No, I have not been happy with this team. The first year our roster wasn't large enough and we had to beg for guest players each week to not forfeit every game. The coach was new and he never knew what was going on. Ex: The combined academy practice was canceled once for non-weather reasons but our team didn't find out so we all showed up to an empty field. I was hopeful we'd get a new coach for this year but that didn't happen. He's leaving Valor after this year, but so are we. DS has decided to focus on his other sport.

I was never upset with DS's placement on the black team, that's where he should have been. There were definitely 3-4 kids on our team that were good enough for white (or gold in one case) though and I don't know why their parents kept them with Valor after not being moved up after the first year. This particular team was newly formed last year while the gold and white had been together longer, so I assume the white coach had "his team" and wasn't really looking to make changes. One kid did move down from white this year, but none were moved up even though they went to the larger 11v11 roster. They filled the spots with all new kids. They also filled one of "our" black roster spots with a new kid that plays for the gold team. We were all annoyed with that because we had a kid at tryouts who wanted to play goalie (which we desperately needed) but no roster spot available for him, yet we have to carry this kid who doesn't play with us.

i'm so confused. Why not just put the kid on the actual gold team? Why would they put him on the black team and then have him only play with gold? that doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

I assume gold's roster was full and they didn't want to cut anyone. They know those parents are more likely to switch clubs than accept a position on the white team. So instead they use one of our spots and play him as a "guest player" every week for whoever from their roster can't make it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume gold's roster was full and they didn't want to cut anyone. They know those parents are more likely to switch clubs than accept a position on the white team. So instead they use one of our spots and play him as a "guest player" every week for whoever from their roster can't make it.

This is the answer.

[Anonymous]

I think the rule is you can have larger rosters but only a set number at a game.

[Anonymous]

Anyone have any insight on coaches?!? DS from u11 girls is leaving the club and we are good with that because we hear nothing but terrible things about him but who is going to be the u11 gold coach?

Will the white coach get the gold team? He seems like a good coach from what we have heard but seeing as other clubs have put out their coaching plans for the next season valor seems to be behind.

We are already visiting other teams for practice/tryouts and would like to know if valor should even be a consideration at this point. We haven’t been too happy here (for many reasons) but a coaching assignment can make or break our interest.

Also what are the chances you get a coaching assignment and then it changes before the season. Any way of getting out if that happens? I am worried they might do a bait and switch type thing right before the season starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone have any insight on coaches?!? DS from u11 girls is leaving the club and we are good with that because we hear nothing but terrible things about him but who is going to be the u11 gold coach?

Will the white coach get the gold team? He seems like a good coach from what we have heard but seeing as other clubs have put out their coaching plans for the next season valor seems to be behind.

We are already visiting other teams for practice/tryouts and would like to know if valor should even be a consideration at this point. We haven’t been too happy here (for many reasons) but a coaching assignment can make or break our interest.

Also what are the chances you get a coaching assignment and then it changes before the season. Any way of getting out if that happens? I am worried they might do a bait and switch type thing right before the season starts.

What are the reasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Are you happy with that team? It seems like the low level teams have the most unhappy
parents.

I'm curious as well. And did any of the third team players get moved up to the second team last year? Or 2nd team players moved down to 3rd?

No, I have not been happy with this team. The first year our roster wasn't large enough and we had to beg for guest players each week to not forfeit every game. The coach was new and he never knew what was going on. Ex: The combined academy practice was canceled once for non-weather reasons but our team didn't find out so we all showed up to an empty field. I was hopeful we'd get a new coach for this year but that didn't happen. He's leaving Valor after this year, but so are we. DS has decided to focus on his other sport.

I was never upset with DS's placement on the black team, that's where he should have been. There were definitely 3-4 kids on our team that were good enough for white (or gold in one case) though and I don't know why their parents kept them with Valor after not being moved up after the first year. This particular team was newly formed last year while the gold and white had been together longer, so I assume the white coach had "his team" and wasn't really looking to make changes. One kid did move down from white this year, but none were moved up even though they went to the larger 11v11 roster. They filled the spots with all new kids. They also filled one of "our" black roster spots with a new kid that plays for the gold team. We were all annoyed with that because we had a kid at tryouts who wanted to play goalie (which we desperately needed) but no roster spot available for him, yet we have to carry this kid who doesn't play with us.

A relative's son tried out for that team (2011 boys). He is a good player but the dad felt no one paid attention to him at the tryouts, said there was a field just for kids in valor shirts who were scrimmaging each other with the head coach and then a field for everyone else-weaker players with valor shirts and all the non Valor kids who just showed up. His son was offered a spot on the black team but they felt he was stronger than most of the "white" team players and he ended up playing for a division 2 team when the white team was in a lower division, so I guess they were right. Reaffirms that their team placements are based on keeping paying customers and not actually who the strongest players are at tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Its a huge club and they scramble every season to find coaches willing to coach the bad teams. They don't want to put a coaching slate out that isn't complete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume gold's roster was full and they didn't want to cut anyone. They know those parents are more likely to switch clubs than accept a position on the white team. So instead they use one of our spots and play him as a "guest player" every week for whoever from their roster can't make it.

So there are hard limits to how many kids can officially be on a roster? I didn't realize that.

[Anonymous]

Reall interesting to get this much insight into an organization before commiting

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't be happy on that 11 black team either-I looked at the NCSL schedule and the season started with two teams forfeiting and then you finally get a game and you was playing a 2013 team? Should get a partial refund.

[Anonymous]

If teams forfeit you should get a makeup games. Losing two games to forfeits. out of a what, 9? game season is lame. And playing kids two years younger is a lose lose situation for the older team.

[Anonymous]

Its hard to stand out at tryouts, especially if a player is smaller and/or more of a team player. They just kind of blend in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be happy on that 11 black team either-I looked at the NCSL schedule and the season started with two teams forfeiting and then you finally get a game and you was playing a 2013 team? Should get a partial refund.

HSC Revolution 13B isn't a 2013 team, they are a U13 team. The team name is weird compared to how everyone else seems to do it. The first game scheduled this weekend was supposed to be against DCSC White Metros 11 who forfeit because they didn't have enough players. I see on the NCSL schedule that we have another game against them at the end of the season, maybe it was added after the forfeit. I don't really pay enough attention to know.

[Anonymous]

What are the limits of how many players per roster?