Consolidated VA Elections Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.

+1000 - well said!

Good thing I’m not trying to make you like me! Donald Trump was responsible for January 6 - that’s just a fact. He is literally fighting to keep documents and evidence away from the congressional investigation. Why? Please do tell. January 6 wasn’t a little snafu … it was an attempted overthrow of our democracy. The fact that Youngkin does not see that as disqualifying is abhorrent. But Youngkin welcomed trump’s endorsement and aligns himself with Trump. You are lying to us…and I guess yourself…if you don’t understand that this is support for the insurrection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.

+1000 - well said!

Good thing I’m not trying to make you like me! Donald Trump was responsible for January 6 - that’s just a fact. He is literally fighting to keep documents and evidence away from the congressional investigation. Why? Please do tell. January 6 wasn’t a little snafu … it was an attempted overthrow of our democracy. The fact that Youngkin does not see that as disqualifying is abhorrent. But Youngkin welcomed trump’s endorsement and aligns himself with Trump. You are lying to us…and I guess yourself…if you don’t understand that this is support for the insurrection.

He is also very close to Amanda Chase and has been promoting her as a surrogate. This tells you all you need to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Well said.

I think you are forgetting about the GOP/Trump supporters outside of NoVa.

Uh, Trump is not on the ballot in Virginia. Did you not know that?

Uh, PP didn't say he was.

GOP and Trump supporters will absolutely be voting for Youngkin.

Trump is actively campaigning for Youngkin.

Youngkin welcomed Trump's endorsement.

Youngkin actively has pushed Trump's lie about "election integrity".

Youngkin is a Trump Republican.

The GOP is actively pushing to restrict voters' rights.

The GOP is actively pushing to restrict women's rights.

[Anonymous]

Making calls for Virginia Dems today and people are fired up to vote for Dems. The Youngkin/Beloved ad REALLY turned women off. I can't believe someone thought that would be a good idea. Have they NOT been to Loudon county lately?

[Anonymous]

2 days to go and I STILL don't know who I'm voting for . . . at this point I may sit it out.

I'm a true moderate, so I don't like where the country and the east coast (not Va. specifically - have only lived here for 5 yrs) have gone under progressive Democrats. I know McA isn't a progressive like the folks I left behind in NYC. But my worry with Dems now is always that they run as moderate and once they're in office they turn progressive. Was only here for 1 year of McA"s earlier term and thought he was a good governor and I am wowed by Virginia's economy/economic growth and it's a big part of why I want to stay here.

Youngkin while he may have some extreme ideas probably provides the check that a state needs before it turns TOO Democratic. Even minor things - if the homeless problem grows in NoVA, I feel like a Republican will have no problem removing tent cities - and honestly it's not PC but I pay good money to live where I live, I don't want it to look like parts of DC,NYC etc. I generally think Rep. are more law and order. Yet I'm also not into MAGA - esp as a non white person. Wish there was a "guarantee" that McA doesn't take the state progressive or that Youngkin doesn't take it MAGA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

If Youngkin is elected and Republicans win even a razor thin majority in the legislature of course they will move to outlaw abortion. Absolutely. 100%. Also, these are the people who wanted to impose transvaginal wand pelvic exams among other misogynistic and loony things.

Be a responsible woman and make sure you and your partner use effective birth control. In the rare case when an abortion is needed, take an Uber to DC. Problem solved.

If you are using IVF or other artificial means of procreation, you will likely spontaneously abort any damaged fetus and have no need for an abortion.

Um, you know that not all of Virginia is within an Uber drive of DC, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Well said.

I think you are forgetting about the GOP/Trump supporters outside of NoVa.

Uh, Trump is not on the ballot in Virginia. Did you not know that?

Uh, PP didn't say he was.

GOP and Trump supporters will absolutely be voting for Youngkin.

Trump is actively campaigning for Youngkin.

Youngkin welcomed Trump's endorsement.

Youngkin actively has pushed Trump's lie about "election integrity".

Youngkin is a Trump Republican.

The GOP is actively pushing to restrict voters' rights.

The GOP is actively pushing to restrict women's rights.

I know isn’t it great. And by 2024 Trump will be re-elected as President!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The GOP is on the offense against:
- democracy / voting rights
- women’s rights
- LGBTQ+
- truth/facts

Any one of those is a deal breaker for me.

We don’t want any of that in VA.

Not only all of that, but earlier this week Youngkin was on a rightwing radio talk show hosted by a well-known racist, and he said - and I quote “I hope that Virginians will walk with the spirit of Jefferson, and Madison, and Washington”.


What does THAT tell you???

Those three white men all owned HUNDREDS of enslaved Africans. And he wants Virginians to “walk in their spirit”???

To me that’s a very, very clear statement about his views about POC, and his unstated plans for rolling back all civil rights protections that POC enjoy in Virginia today. We’re not just talking separate lunch counters and water fountains here - he literally believes in slavery. You think he isn’t saying a loud and clear message to the worst people in Virginia, that he has their back.

I cannot believe that this statement he made on this radio show didn’t get more coverage in the press. They just flat ignored it. I’m dumbfounded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

If Youngkin is elected and Republicans win even a razor thin majority in the legislature of course they will move to outlaw abortion. Absolutely. 100%. Also, these are the people who wanted to impose transvaginal wand pelvic exams among other misogynistic and loony things.

Be a responsible woman and make sure you and your partner use effective birth control. In the rare case when an abortion is needed, take an Uber to DC. Problem solved.

If you are using IVF or other artificial means of procreation, you will likely spontaneously abort any damaged fetus and have no need for an abortion.

Um, you know that not all of Virginia is within an Uber drive of DC, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GOP is on the offense against:
- democracy / voting rights
- women’s rights
- LGBTQ+
- truth/facts

Any one of those is a deal breaker for me.

We don’t want any of that in VA.

Not only all of that, but earlier this week Youngkin was on a rightwing radio talk show hosted by a well-known racist, and he said - and I quote “I hope that Virginians will walk with the spirit of Jefferson, and Madison, and Washington”.


What does THAT tell you???

Those three white men all owned HUNDREDS of enslaved Africans. And he wants Virginians to “walk in their spirit”???

To me that’s a very, very clear statement about his views about POC, and his unstated plans for rolling back all civil rights protections that POC enjoy in Virginia today. We’re not just talking separate lunch counters and water fountains here - he literally believes in slavery. You think he isn’t saying a loud and clear message to the worst people in Virginia, that he has their back.

I cannot believe that this statement he made on this radio show didn’t get more coverage in the press. They just flat ignored it. I’m dumbfounded.

No. Our founding fathers were more than just dead white slave owning guys.

If you don't know that, then read a book. Or their wiki pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Well said.

I think you are forgetting about the GOP/Trump supporters outside of NoVa.

Uh, Trump is not on the ballot in Virginia. Did you not know that?

Terry McAuliffe himself said the other day..this race is not about Trump. That is, after months of him making it about Trump.

When Joe Biden was in Arlington, he mentioned Trump 21 times. Why isn’t he talking about his candidate McAuliffe? According to today’s polls he is having difficulty winning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GOP is on the offense against:
- democracy / voting rights
- women’s rights
- LGBTQ+
- truth/facts

Any one of those is a deal breaker for me.

We don’t want any of that in VA.

Not only all of that, but earlier this week Youngkin was on a rightwing radio talk show hosted by a well-known racist, and he said - and I quote “I hope that Virginians will walk with the spirit of Jefferson, and Madison, and Washington”.


What does THAT tell you???

Those three white men all owned HUNDREDS of enslaved Africans. And he wants Virginians to “walk in their spirit”???

To me that’s a very, very clear statement about his views about POC, and his unstated plans for rolling back all civil rights protections that POC enjoy in Virginia today. We’re not just talking separate lunch counters and water fountains here - he literally believes in slavery. You think he isn’t saying a loud and clear message to the worst people in Virginia, that he has their back.

I cannot believe that this statement he made on this radio show didn’t get more coverage in the press. They just flat ignored it. I’m dumbfounded.

You sound like an insane person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Well said.

I think you are forgetting about the GOP/Trump supporters outside of NoVa.

there are Trump supporters in every single state. Seriously, Virginia voted for Biden by 10% over Trump, so stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Well said.

I think you are forgetting about the GOP/Trump supporters outside of NoVa.

Uh, Trump is not on the ballot in Virginia. Did you not know that?

Trump is on the ballot everywhere a republican is on the ballot. And will be for all eternity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GOP is on the offense against:
- democracy / voting rights
- women’s rights
- LGBTQ+
- truth/facts

Any one of those is a deal breaker for me.

We don’t want any of that in VA.

Not only all of that, but earlier this week Youngkin was on a rightwing radio talk show hosted by a well-known racist, and he said - and I quote “I hope that Virginians will walk with the spirit of Jefferson, and Madison, and Washington”.


What does THAT tell you???

Those three white men all owned HUNDREDS of enslaved Africans. And he wants Virginians to “walk in their spirit”???

To me that’s a very, very clear statement about his views about POC, and his unstated plans for rolling back all civil rights protections that POC enjoy in Virginia today. We’re not just talking separate lunch counters and water fountains here - he literally believes in slavery. You think he isn’t saying a loud and clear message to the worst people in Virginia, that he has their back.

I cannot believe that this statement he made on this radio show didn’t get more coverage in the press. They just flat ignored it. I’m dumbfounded.

Sounds like you are screwed.