Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Baldoni is also a public person. He has invited People magazine into his home. He hosted a podcast for years where he talked about his marriage, his feminism, his porn addiction, his sexual history. He wrote multiple books on these subjects.

I think Baldoni has serious issues with women, feminity, childbirth, and relationships. He's obviously a narcissist (see his proposal video to his wife, a short film that is an ode to his own ego). He's obsessed with both sex and his own desirability as a sexual partner, he dwells on his sexual history and victimizes himself in a way that makes him the potential victim of every woman he encounters, but his narcissism makes this seem normal to him. He can't see how his outlook leaves no room for women to have identities independent of their relationship with him.

He's obsessed with pregnancy, childhood, and motherhood, an issue probably linked to his narcissism -- I think it bothers him that women get attention for pregnancy and childbirth but that he cannot get that attention. He and his male friends started a pregnancy tracking app a few years ago (bizarrely, they used an image of Blake Lively to promote it, this was years before he met her). They promoted the app by making themselves look pregnant and doing a photo shoot, be abuse somehow the image of a bunch of "pregnant" men would make women want to use their pregnancy app? Baldoni has also talked about birth/pregnancy on his podcast and he seems to both idealize it and fixate on it. It's no wonder his approach to the birth scene in this movie was weirdly sexualized and focused more on making Lively look/behave the way his own wife has during childbirth, than in the story and how this character who was a survivor of DV would look and behave.

I think it's telling how even though Baldoni has made several other movies and documentaries, and was on a hot show for years, only a handful of people have said anything to defend him, and most of those are members of his church or employed by his production company (which was originally bankrolled by his wealthy father and is now funded by a billionaire who is also a member of his church). There was an in depth story in the LA Times about Baldoni where they interviewed people who had worked with him and he came off as self-absorbed, self-important, unprofessional, and weird.

He sounds EXACTLY like what he is accused of being -- a sex-obsesserd weirdo with no boundaries whose ego helped him harass women on set and then, when confronted and challenged about his bad behavior, attempt to destroy her via PR rather than be accountable for his behavior.

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And with everything PP says above about Baldoni, they do not manufacture a narrative where Baldoni is controlling towards and committing DV on his wife, which is what PPs were complaining about Baldoni supporters and Lively/Reynolds.

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Anonymous wrote:And with everything PP says above about Baldoni, they do not manufacture a narrative where Baldoni is controlling towards and committing DV on his wife, which is what PPs were complaining about Baldoni supporters and Lively/Reynolds.

Did you hear what Reynolds was saying to Lively at the event this week? It isn’t manufactured.

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Anonymous wrote:Good lord, it is so weird to see people confidently asserting (either way) about abuse in Blake and Ryan's marriage. So weird. THESE PEOPLE ARE TOTAL STRANGERS. You don't know anything. I find speculation about it to be so gross. It's none of our business.

But it’s okay to spend over 500 pages commented on your own legal theories about their cases? And their marriage and work product can’t be questioned?

It’s one thing if Ryan wasn’t being sued, didn’t write the rooftop scene for a movie she was starring in (without authorization by the director), did Nicepool and then shared in a legal document that if he offended or harassed Baldoni, it’s because he probably deserved it. Ryan chewed out Baldoni and called him a sexual predator.


But none of this context from their legal cases allows us to freely speculate about their relationship, or different views of feminism and misogyny?

Isn’t this a case about sexual harassment, or did I get that wrong too?

Alrighty.

The discussions about the legal claims are based on actual legal proceedings. They are grounded in fact. Even a legal theory is at least related to an ongoing legal dispute, even if it turns out to be off base.

The stuff about Ryan and Blake's marriage is pure speculation. It's not like they are in the midst of divorce proceedings like Brad and Angie, or putting their relationship and family on display in a reality show like Alec and Hilaria. As someone who has worked with women who have been abused in marriages, I find a discussion like this so distasteful. The truth is you don't really know how someone's marriage looks from the inside unless you are in it, or are a marriage therapist or maybe certain family members. Speculating about domestic abuse, physical or emotional, in this flippant, uninformed, gossipy way is just awful. AWFUL. It's a serious subject.

Here is my take on this. This was supposedly a movie about DV. But at every turn, from behind the scenes to its marketing, this movie lost its focus on DV and became one about Betty booze and hair products for sale, Blake and Ryan talking about perineums, that quote implying a bj w/out teeth, and at least one adulterous affair. I could go on.

But they brought all of this and more sexual innuendo into this huge legal ordeal. And you guys are trying to tell us that it’s distasteful to talk about any of the content of the lawsuit (driven by Blake and Ryan) because parts of it is distasteful and hurtful for some of you.

But you flat out tell a pro Baldoni supporter several times that supporter needs to seek therapy for internalizing the case because supporter finds the actions of Lively and Ryan disgusting and hurtful.

Once again, the one-sided logic amazes me.

This case is emotional for many of us.

???? DP but nobody and I mean nobody is telling you it’s distasteful to talk about the contents of the lawsuit. People are telling you it’s distasteful to make up entirely in your own head a scenario of abuse between Lively and Reynolds because you hate them so much, when you don’t know them at all.

It seems like some people are getting very emotionally involved with speculation that is not fact based in a way that doesn’t seem either fair or entirely healthy.

I have been sexually harassed. I also have represented a victim of domestic violence in court and made precedential case law that benefitted other victims, and I understand something about DV and cycles of violence. I am not posting here, though, to work out my trauma. That is not going to happen here, and please don’t think it will. Posting over and over again about how disgusting and hurtful you think Lively is (at this stage), and making up facts about her marriage to make her seem even more awful in your own head, does not seem healthy or helpful, and I agree with to PP that that sort of DV fictional speculation is an awful thing to post on the internet about people you don’t know.

Dp, for goodness sake, pp is not making up anything. You can see and hear the public interactions between Reynolds and Lively on social media. I know some of you think you are above tik tok, but that’s where the actual video footage is. In any case, just because you refuse to watch it, doesn’t mean others haven’t.

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Anonymous wrote:What some of you don't get us that when you make these flippant, gossipy comments about whether or not Ryan is abusive, it is rude towards people who have experienced spousal abuse. Sure, this is an entertainment thread, but that doesn't mean we just say crappy things about domestic violence for kicks. And guess what, DV survivors also enjoy celebrity gossip and shouldn't be confronted with casual commentary about abuse (based purely on speculation) loaded with misogynist or victim-blaming judgment.

If you were discussing this case at a cocktail party with neighbors or people from work, would you just casually say "Whatever, everyone knows Ryan is an abuser, but Blake sucks and is too weak to leave him, what a loser"?

If yes, you are a trash person and I don't say that as a defender of Blake, I say that as a person who gives a $hit about other human beings and tries not to be horrible to them for sport.

Oh, what!? I'm a victim of spouse abuse and I don't think Blake is a victim but I've also worked in PR and if she wants to come out sort of clean she had better play that up. It's basically the only thing that's her hail Mary pass, she's abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak. That's the sympathy line. She should run with that if she wants to preserve her reputation because right now she's the horrible person who destroyed me too. I think RR was behind all of this from the beginning and she's not abused, busy she's a D list nobody without him so it gets...weird.

I am mostly pro-Lively and have been commenting here on the legal issues. Some of the anti-Lively posts from the last page sound disconnected from reality. It is like when people start going down a wormhole of men’s rights YouTube videos, except it’s anti-Lively propaganda. Are you reading Reddit and watching TikToks hating on her for three hours a day? Because this hate is off the charts.

— Lively needs to say she was “abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak” who “was behind all of this from the beginning.” This abuse narrative is not based on real, provable facts.

— You “have eyes and ears. We see them whispering things to each other and to their teams, we see their body language.” You don’t know what they are whispering. You do not really know what they are saying or what their movements say.

— “There are people on this thread, trying to manipulate and it’s not working. It’s it at all a reach to say that Ryan is controlling. You can tell it in his movements and when he’s out in public and the way he interacts with her.” This is not based in fact. The first statement is pure paranoia. The rest is pure speculation.

“Finally, some of us have had a little more insider information about these people.” Oh come on.

You guys sound bananas. And now you are dissecting what a “lip reader” said that Lively and Reynolds said to one another during the Time event? (Is that what you mean by last week’s event? I tried to google it. I don’t know what you’re talking about.) You are so far down whatever algorithm you are on you don’t seem to get how disconnected you are. This is not normal. Come back!!

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Anonymous wrote:What some of you don't get us that when you make these flippant, gossipy comments about whether or not Ryan is abusive, it is rude towards people who have experienced spousal abuse. Sure, this is an entertainment thread, but that doesn't mean we just say crappy things about domestic violence for kicks. And guess what, DV survivors also enjoy celebrity gossip and shouldn't be confronted with casual commentary about abuse (based purely on speculation) loaded with misogynist or victim-blaming judgment.

If you were discussing this case at a cocktail party with neighbors or people from work, would you just casually say "Whatever, everyone knows Ryan is an abuser, but Blake sucks and is too weak to leave him, what a loser"?

If yes, you are a trash person and I don't say that as a defender of Blake, I say that as a person who gives a $hit about other human beings and tries not to be horrible to them for sport.

Oh, what!? I'm a victim of spouse abuse and I don't think Blake is a victim but I've also worked in PR and if she wants to come out sort of clean she had better play that up. It's basically the only thing that's her hail Mary pass, she's abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak. That's the sympathy line. She should run with that if she wants to preserve her reputation because right now she's the horrible person who destroyed me too. I think RR was behind all of this from the beginning and she's not abused, busy she's a D list nobody without him so it gets...weird.

I am mostly pro-Lively and have been commenting here on the legal issues. Some of the anti-Lively posts from the last page sound disconnected from reality. It is like when people start going down a wormhole of men’s rights YouTube videos, except it’s anti-Lively propaganda. Are you reading Reddit and watching TikToks hating on her for three hours a day? Because this hate is off the charts.

— Lively needs to say she was “abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak” who “was behind all of this from the beginning.” This abuse narrative is not based on real, provable facts.

— You “have eyes and ears. We see them whispering things to each other and to their teams, we see their body language.” You don’t know what they are whispering. You do not really know what they are saying or what their movements say.

— “There are people on this thread, trying to manipulate and it’s not working. It’s it at all a reach to say that Ryan is controlling. You can tell it in his movements and when he’s out in public and the way he interacts with her.” This is not based in fact. The first statement is pure paranoia. The rest is pure speculation.

“Finally, some of us have had a little more insider information about these people.” Oh come on.

You guys sound bananas. And now you are dissecting what a “lip reader” said that Lively and Reynolds said to one another during the Time event? (Is that what you mean by last week’s event? I tried to google it. I don’t know what you’re talking about.) You are so far down whatever algorithm you are on you don’t seem to get how disconnected you are. This is not normal. Come back!!

And I don’t think it’s normal for people to try to manipulate me and other posters into believing some false reality that Blake and Ryan are a happy normal couple. Nothing about them in the last few years has seemed happy or normal.

It is widely known they pay a ridiculous amount to their social media team to do all of their lighthearted banter. It is also well known and not a rumor that they have a relationship with paparazzi to get their New York City Pap walks in. There is a podcast who lives down the street with them who sees the same team setting up and Ryan and Blake choreographing their walks. I was also surprised to hear Bradley Cooper does this, but he does. Celebs are weird.

They go to ridiculous lengths to hide the fact that they have nannies, even though it’s quite clear that they actually do have nannies.

I could go on and on, but this couple is weird and it’s not normal for you to cling to this belief that they are not and to try to convince others.

And it’s not all lip reading, you can sometimes clearly see what they’ve said to each other and people have picked them up on microphones before. Look, they try real hard, but no one can be out in public this much and not slip up sometimes. And now that all eyes are on them and they are under all this stress, they are slipping up.

Blake’s interaction with that fan who happened to see them at the hotel they were staying out in Texas is not normal or healthy. Blake followed them out to her car and filmed them. Then they saw a bunch of bots and weird accounts that they didn’t know following them and commenting. They were able trace at least one to a nanny that works with the family.

Probably 2 to 3 years ago that would have flown under the radar, but now it gets picked up. I feel like at least every week there’s just more weirdness with these two.

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Anonymous wrote:What some of you don't get us that when you make these flippant, gossipy comments about whether or not Ryan is abusive, it is rude towards people who have experienced spousal abuse. Sure, this is an entertainment thread, but that doesn't mean we just say crappy things about domestic violence for kicks. And guess what, DV survivors also enjoy celebrity gossip and shouldn't be confronted with casual commentary about abuse (based purely on speculation) loaded with misogynist or victim-blaming judgment.

If you were discussing this case at a cocktail party with neighbors or people from work, would you just casually say "Whatever, everyone knows Ryan is an abuser, but Blake sucks and is too weak to leave him, what a loser"?

If yes, you are a trash person and I don't say that as a defender of Blake, I say that as a person who gives a $hit about other human beings and tries not to be horrible to them for sport.

Oh, what!? I'm a victim of spouse abuse and I don't think Blake is a victim but I've also worked in PR and if she wants to come out sort of clean she had better play that up. It's basically the only thing that's her hail Mary pass, she's abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak. That's the sympathy line. She should run with that if she wants to preserve her reputation because right now she's the horrible person who destroyed me too. I think RR was behind all of this from the beginning and she's not abused, busy she's a D list nobody without him so it gets...weird.

I am mostly pro-Lively and have been commenting here on the legal issues. Some of the anti-Lively posts from the last page sound disconnected from reality. It is like when people start going down a wormhole of men’s rights YouTube videos, except it’s anti-Lively propaganda. Are you reading Reddit and watching TikToks hating on her for three hours a day? Because this hate is off the charts.

— Lively needs to say she was “abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak” who “was behind all of this from the beginning.” This abuse narrative is not based on real, provable facts.

— You “have eyes and ears. We see them whispering things to each other and to their teams, we see their body language.” You don’t know what they are whispering. You do not really know what they are saying or what their movements say.

— “There are people on this thread, trying to manipulate and it’s not working. It’s it at all a reach to say that Ryan is controlling. You can tell it in his movements and when he’s out in public and the way he interacts with her.” This is not based in fact. The first statement is pure paranoia. The rest is pure speculation.

“Finally, some of us have had a little more insider information about these people.” Oh come on.

You guys sound bananas. And now you are dissecting what a “lip reader” said that Lively and Reynolds said to one another during the Time event? (Is that what you mean by last week’s event? I tried to google it. I don’t know what you’re talking about.) You are so far down whatever algorithm you are on you don’t seem to get how disconnected you are. This is not normal. Come back!!

Well, someone is bananas but it isn’t us. Can you at least agree that Ryan using her law suit as fodder for humor in front of a national audience on SNL was troubling? Or are you too deep in denial?

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And I don’t think it’s normal for people to try to manipulate me and other posters into believing some false reality that Blake and Ryan are a happy normal couple. Nothing about them in the last few years has seemed happy or normal.

Where is anyone saying that?

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https://x.com/TMZ/status/1916854101066817982

Travis unfollowed Ryan

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Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/TMZ/status/1916854101066817982

Travis unfollowed Ryan

Was just coming to post that lol. As I’ve said before to team Blake, if someone’s best friend and godmother to their children isn’t defending, perhaps you shouldn’t either.

Also, the irony that Blake thought it was great to have the entire cast unfollow Justin. Karma.

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Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/TMZ/status/1916854101066817982

Travis unfollowed Ryan

I saw that on tmz! It must be a mistake though because Taylor and Blake are solid 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/TMZ/status/1916854101066817982

Travis unfollowed Ryan

Well that's that, Blake needs to settle for 400 million.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What some of you don't get us that when you make these flippant, gossipy comments about whether or not Ryan is abusive, it is rude towards people who have experienced spousal abuse. Sure, this is an entertainment thread, but that doesn't mean we just say crappy things about domestic violence for kicks. And guess what, DV survivors also enjoy celebrity gossip and shouldn't be confronted with casual commentary about abuse (based purely on speculation) loaded with misogynist or victim-blaming judgment.

If you were discussing this case at a cocktail party with neighbors or people from work, would you just casually say "Whatever, everyone knows Ryan is an abuser, but Blake sucks and is too weak to leave him, what a loser"?

If yes, you are a trash person and I don't say that as a defender of Blake, I say that as a person who gives a $hit about other human beings and tries not to be horrible to them for sport.

Oh, what!? I'm a victim of spouse abuse and I don't think Blake is a victim but I've also worked in PR and if she wants to come out sort of clean she had better play that up. It's basically the only thing that's her hail Mary pass, she's abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak. That's the sympathy line. She should run with that if she wants to preserve her reputation because right now she's the horrible person who destroyed me too. I think RR was behind all of this from the beginning and she's not abused, busy she's a D list nobody without him so it gets...weird.

I am mostly pro-Lively and have been commenting here on the legal issues. Some of the anti-Lively posts from the last page sound disconnected from reality. It is like when people start going down a wormhole of men’s rights YouTube videos, except it’s anti-Lively propaganda. Are you reading Reddit and watching TikToks hating on her for three hours a day? Because this hate is off the charts.

— Lively needs to say she was “abused and controlled by her husband who is a notorious ass control freak” who “was behind all of this from the beginning.” This abuse narrative is not based on real, provable facts.

— You “have eyes and ears. We see them whispering things to each other and to their teams, we see their body language.” You don’t know what they are whispering. You do not really know what they are saying or what their movements say.

— “There are people on this thread, trying to manipulate and it’s not working. It’s it at all a reach to say that Ryan is controlling. You can tell it in his movements and when he’s out in public and the way he interacts with her.” This is not based in fact. The first statement is pure paranoia. The rest is pure speculation.

“Finally, some of us have had a little more insider information about these people.” Oh come on.

You guys sound bananas. And now you are dissecting what a “lip reader” said that Lively and Reynolds said to one another during the Time event? (Is that what you mean by last week’s event? I tried to google it. I don’t know what you’re talking about.) You are so far down whatever algorithm you are on you don’t seem to get how disconnected you are. This is not normal. Come back!!

Well, someone is bananas but it isn’t us. Can you at least agree that Ryan using her law suit as fodder for humor in front of a national audience on SNL was troubling? Or are you too deep in denial?

No response? Says it all.

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Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/TMZ/status/1916854101066817982

Travis unfollowed Ryan

Well that's that, Blake needs to settle for 400 million.

You joke but I think the relationship with Taylor was quite important to Blake and Ryan and they torched it with this ill advised smear campaign against Justin.

The more I’ve thought about it, the more I feel Blake’s lawyers are the problem and have been from the beginning. Without lawyers, I don’t think Blake would’ve been able to dig such a deep hole, but they thought they were being so clever and strategic. First Blake’s lawyers put no retaliation in the 17 point complaint, which gave Blake this false sense of power that she could behave however she wanted for the duration of the film without consequence. Then they didn’t immediately shut down the Stepanie jones leak (which would have been the ethical thing to do) and instead created a sham lawsuit to get a sham subpoena when the NYT refused to print without one. Then they filed a CRD complaint for no other reason than to give the NYT litigation privilege and for Blake to gain standing in CA so Blake could hide behind it’s me too laws.

It’s all been so calculated and they think it’s clever, but in the court of public opinion it looks like abuse of process. And frankly had Blake just filed a regular harassment claim way back when, we likely wouldn’t be here because they would’ve found no harassment. And had she filed a regular case about the so called smear campaign instead of working with the NYT to smear Justin, there would be no defamation suit for him to bring. The truth is Blake’s case is weak on the facts, so she sought to try the case in the press, but that has backfired massively.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/TMZ/status/1916854101066817982

Travis unfollowed Ryan

Well that's that, Blake needs to settle for 400 million.

You joke but I think the relationship with Taylor was quite important to Blake and Ryan and they torched it with this ill advised smear campaign against Justin.

The more I’ve thought about it, the more I feel Blake’s lawyers are the problem and have been from the beginning. Without lawyers, I don’t think Blake would’ve been able to dig such a deep hole, but they thought they were being so clever and strategic. First Blake’s lawyers put no retaliation in the 17 point complaint, which gave Blake this false sense of power that she could behave however she wanted for the duration of the film without consequence. Then they didn’t immediately shut down the Stepanie jones leak (which would have been the ethical thing to do) and instead created a sham lawsuit to get a sham subpoena when the NYT refused to print without one. Then they filed a CRD complaint for no other reason than to give the NYT litigation privilege and for Blake to gain standing in CA so Blake could hide behind it’s me too laws.

It’s all been so calculated and they think it’s clever, but in the court of public opinion it looks like abuse of process. And frankly had Blake just filed a regular harassment claim way back when, we likely wouldn’t be here because they would’ve found no harassment. And had she filed a regular case about the so called smear campaign instead of working with the NYT to smear Justin, there would be no defamation suit for him to bring. The truth is Blake’s case is weak on the facts, so she sought to try the case in the press, but that has backfired massively.

Agree with all of this, and their relationship with Taylor was huge for their image.