ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

That's because the parents of January birthdays argue that RAE isnt real...their kids are just good and the all the kids born in August- December just suck...but at the same time they don't want their kids playing "up" with kids their same grade level because it wouldn't be fair to compete against kids 6 months older. (*Don't try to use logic) RAE is real...and no it will not go away...it will shift towards August/ Sept birthdays. The reason for the change is not to get rid of RAE, it is to keep kids playing with kids in their grade level.

Personally, I don't really care and I don't think its a big deal to change. The only argument I have heard from keeping it BY...is other countries do that... most of Europe anyways, except the UK. But, that is because those other countries group kids in school according to their Birth year. The one true consistent -is that every country except for the US groups kids for soccer according to the school year. And

I also don't think trying to pick January birthdays for our Youth National Teams make our teams any better...bigger at a certain age perhaps. Our Youth National team should work on developing players for the national team...not winning at U15...so maybe picking kids with a high technical ability and soccer IQ versus the oldest kids would be more beneficial. In that case, BY may be hurting us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

Because the whole debate for ECNL isnt really about “playing with friends” or random rec league participation rates, it is 100% about trying to gaining a RAE advantage.

The problem these dopes have is they think a group phenomenon is an individual benefit. They’re all idiots.

Considering a group is an aggregation of individuals and groups pre and post change comprise different individuals, how does the change from SY to BY not encompass individuals with a benefit and individuals with a loss?

Also the leagues are calling the shots and they wouldn't have an RAE change, so how do explain many leagues supporting the change? Finally note that the "vote" leaned towards SY but a minority, around 40 percent of kids get an RAE advantage moving from BY to SY.

Hopefully having SY and BY leagues will begin to reduce RAE.

What many leagues are supporting which change?

Keep up, the ones that convinced US Soccer to remove the BY mandate for Fall 2026.

[Anonymous]

The Majority of US soccer.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

Because the whole debate for ECNL isnt really about “playing with friends” or random rec league participation rates, it is 100% about trying to gaining a RAE advantage.

The problem these dopes have is they think a group phenomenon is an individual benefit. They’re all idiots.

Considering a group is an aggregation of individuals and groups pre and post change comprise different individuals, how does the change from SY to BY not encompass individuals with a benefit and individuals with a loss?

Also the leagues are calling the shots and they wouldn't have an RAE change, so how do explain many leagues supporting the change? Finally note that the "vote" leaned towards SY but a minority, around 40 percent of kids get an RAE advantage moving from BY to SY.

Hopefully having SY and BY leagues will begin to reduce RAE.

Strongest players on the most competitive teams will only be interested in BY teams and clubs as these are aligned with the highest level national and international competition. These players are already capable of playing up and training against older competition successfully. Playing with friends at grade level (SY) is never a consideration or goal; maybe this is more a consideration for U-littles and rec-level players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

Because the whole debate for ECNL isnt really about “playing with friends” or random rec league participation rates, it is 100% about trying to gaining a RAE advantage.

The problem these dopes have is they think a group phenomenon is an individual benefit. They’re all idiots.

Considering a group is an aggregation of individuals and groups pre and post change comprise different individuals, how does the change from SY to BY not encompass individuals with a benefit and individuals with a loss?

Also the leagues are calling the shots and they wouldn't have an RAE change, so how do explain many leagues supporting the change? Finally note that the "vote" leaned towards SY but a minority, around 40 percent of kids get an RAE advantage moving from BY to SY.

Hopefully having SY and BY leagues will begin to reduce RAE.

Strongest players on the most competitive teams will only be interested in BY teams and clubs as these are aligned with the highest level national and international competition. These players are already capable of playing up and training against older competition successfully. Playing with friends at grade level (SY) is never a consideration or goal; maybe this is more a consideration for U-littles and rec-level players.

No, I would expect the strongest Q1 players (i.e., Jan - March) will want to play SY during league play so they get to play against tougher competition in league play (i.e. Q3 and Q4 players that are older than them). It will better prepare them for national and international competition.

[Anonymous]

SY teams will crush BY teams. Top players dont play with losing teams. FACT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

Because the whole debate for ECNL isnt really about “playing with friends” or random rec league participation rates, it is 100% about trying to gaining a RAE advantage.

The problem these dopes have is they think a group phenomenon is an individual benefit. They’re all idiots.

Considering a group is an aggregation of individuals and groups pre and post change comprise different individuals, how does the change from SY to BY not encompass individuals with a benefit and individuals with a loss?

Also the leagues are calling the shots and they wouldn't have an RAE change, so how do explain many leagues supporting the change? Finally note that the "vote" leaned towards SY but a minority, around 40 percent of kids get an RAE advantage moving from BY to SY.

Hopefully having SY and BY leagues will begin to reduce RAE.

What many leagues are supporting which change?

Keep up, the ones that convinced US Soccer to remove the BY mandate for Fall 2026.

Who else other than ECNL?

When is US Soccer mandating MLS Next change from BY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

That's because the parents of January birthdays argue that RAE isnt real...their kids are just good and the all the kids born in August- December just suck...but at the same time they don't want their kids playing "up" with kids their same grade level because it wouldn't be fair to compete against kids 6 months older. (*Don't try to use logic) RAE is real...and no it will not go away...it will shift towards August/ Sept birthdays. The reason for the change is not to get rid of RAE, it is to keep kids playing with kids in their grade level.

Personally, I don't really care and I don't think its a big deal to change. The only argument I have heard from keeping it BY...is other countries do that... most of Europe anyways, except the UK. But, that is because those other countries group kids in school according to their Birth year. The one true consistent -is that every country except for the US groups kids for soccer according to the school year. And

I also don't think trying to pick January birthdays for our Youth National Teams make our teams any better...bigger at a certain age perhaps. Our Youth National team should work on developing players for the national team...not winning at U15...so maybe picking kids with a high technical ability and soccer IQ versus the oldest kids would be more beneficial. In that case, BY may be hurting us.

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Which academic RAE study said the Q1 and Q2 born players were better soccer players?

You people just make anything up for arguing sake

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SY teams will crush BY teams. Top players dont play with losing teams. FACT.

So MLS Next players will leave and join ECNL teams if it goes to SY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like how this was a ECNL going to school year forum and now that it’s a given for Fall 26 it’s a RAE is or isn’t real and what everyone’s interpretation of RAE is forum.

Because the whole debate for ECNL isnt really about “playing with friends” or random rec league participation rates, it is 100% about trying to gaining a RAE advantage.

The problem these dopes have is they think a group phenomenon is an individual benefit. They’re all idiots.

Considering a group is an aggregation of individuals and groups pre and post change comprise different individuals, how does the change from SY to BY not encompass individuals with a benefit and individuals with a loss?

Also the leagues are calling the shots and they wouldn't have an RAE change, so how do explain many leagues supporting the change? Finally note that the "vote" leaned towards SY but a minority, around 40 percent of kids get an RAE advantage moving from BY to SY.

Hopefully having SY and BY leagues will begin to reduce RAE.

What many leagues are supporting which change?

Keep up, the ones that convinced US Soccer to remove the BY mandate for Fall 2026.

Who else other than ECNL?

When is US Soccer mandating MLS Next change from BY?

Are you purposely being obtuse. Other than ECNL how about US Youth Soccer, US Club Soccer, and AYSO. I guess you also don't understand what removing a mandate means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY teams will crush BY teams. Top players dont play with losing teams. FACT.

So MLS Next players will leave and join ECNL teams if it goes to SY?

What will happen is SY and BY clubs will only attend SY or BY tournaments.

It's too much trouble to make a specific tournament team to participate in the other leagues BY/SY rules tournament.

There's also a very good chance that a youngers BY league pops up if all the big youngers leagues move to SY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY teams will crush BY teams. Top players dont play with losing teams. FACT.

So MLS Next players will leave and join ECNL teams if it goes to SY?

What will happen is SY and BY clubs will only attend SY or BY tournaments.

It's too much trouble to make a specific tournament team to participate in the other leagues BY/SY rules tournament.

There's also a very good chance that a youngers BY league pops up if all the big youngers leagues move to SY.

You must have missed the announcement last week about the new MLS Next collaboration with multiple smaller leagues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SY teams will crush BY teams. Top players dont play with losing teams. FACT.

So MLS Next players will leave and join ECNL teams if it goes to SY?

What will happen is SY and BY clubs will only attend SY or BY tournaments.

It's too much trouble to make a specific tournament team to participate in the other leagues BY/SY rules tournament.

There's also a very good chance that a youngers BY league pops up if all the big youngers leagues move to SY.

You must have missed the announcement last week about the new MLS Next collaboration with multiple smaller leagues

Well there you go.

It's going to be fun watching the girl dad's that think ECNL is more amazing than it is.

[Anonymous]

It’s not too much trouble. It used to he done this way back in the day

[Anonymous]

Your kid doing the minimum at BY and is middle to low performer not showing high future potential isn't going to become Gavi with a switch to SY