WC Fail

Anonymous
The success of the USWNT will be the biggest dagger to the heart of US Soccer since the USMNT failed to qualify for the WC. The reason is that if the women win, and they probably will, it will further enable US Soccer to live in the delusion that they know what they are doing. This WWC has revealed several things:
1. The gap has closed. The US women have been outplayed in several games, and other teams probably feel the way NFL fans feel when their team has to play the Patriots: calls and good fortune have been on the US's side.
2. Defense sucks. Our defense I mean. Our CBs are a disaster, and it is the case on both the men's and women's sides. We get away with poor marking consistently, and US Soccer puts little to no emphasis on defense in its courses.
3. Shooting. How many goals have the women's players' skied? We kid ourselves into thinking we play " possession" style ( we don't) , and we will walk the ball in. The women are dreadfully inefficient at volleys and, since we outlaw headers for some ridiculous reason at the youth level, that will cost us too.
4. Coaching- Ellis is a bad coach with great players. She can't sub, she disrupts chemistry, she cannot deal with angry players. Press is a better player than Rapinoe- sorry. She should have been on all along and was only in today due to "injury". That bit of luck saved Ellis. Rapinoe doesn't have the pace to be where Press was when Press scored.
Had the women lost to Spain, as they probably should have, it may have forced changes in US Soccer. Since the women will probably win, US Soccer can point at them and say " See ? We DO know what we are doing?" And play the tired old "The best US athletes play other sports" card. Success sometimes fails, and this is one of those times
Anonymous
So now women's soccer success is to blame for men's soccer failure?

Typical.

Anonymous
What's typical is using anti-Male sentiment to obfuscate the point. I was criticizing US Soccer, not the female players
Anonymous
Everyone is a critic. Everyone of these critics have no soccer coaching, development and/or operations experience whatsoever.

If these critics were any good at coaching or developing players, they would already own a world renown soccer development facility or is employed by US or International Soccer Federations or clubs. They wouldn’t be here complaining for how poorly our soccer is.

Did your momma tell you that if you don’t know what you’re talking about, then just shut up?

Before you open your mouth, people can only suspect that you’re an idiot. But when you open your mouth, you confirm bar you are indeed an idiot.

We are in the WWC Finals. Just shut up and enjoy. Try to get out of bed on the right side for once.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So now women's soccer success is to blame for men's soccer failure?

Typical.


+1. It’s so absurd that it should be a caricature, and yet it’s not.
Anonymous
Morons, the PP was discussing US Soccer as an entity.

The comments are spot on even if he is a critic. I take issue with a few points but agree in general. None of our offensive players have the skill or pace of the starting front line. That being said, our players are experienced and are fighter. The issue is that the writing is on the wall. France, Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Japan are coming. We lucked out today. I don't know how many times we lost the ball in the 2nd period because we lacked 1v1 ar 1v2 abilities. England sprinted past our back-line again and again.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Morons, the PP was discussing US Soccer as an entity.

The comments are spot on even if he is a critic. I take issue with a few points but agree in general. None of our offensive players have the skill or pace of the starting front line. That being said, our players are experienced and are fighter. The issue is that the writing is on the wall. France, Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Japan are coming. We lucked out today. I don't know how many times we lost the ball in the 2nd period because we lacked 1v1 ar 1v2 abilities. England sprinted past our back-line again and again.



If you knew what you were talking about, you would at least be a TV sports announcer. So STFU. LOL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now women's soccer success is to blame for men's soccer failure?

Typical.


+1. It’s so absurd that it should be a caricature, and yet it’s not.


If you or that other moron had any ability to decipher a fairly straightforward post, you would see that I am not making this a thing about gender ( you are though), but about US Soccer. The success of these hardworking women will validate a coaching methodology that is seriously flawed and has lost an almost insurmountable head start. It is not a condemnation of the players, but of the system.
Anonymous
Yes the world is getting better at women's soccer and the US is not going to win every or every other World Cup. That's just the way it is going to be - enjoy the current success and quit with the sky is falling.

Brazil has the best, deepest men's player pool - what's the last World Cup they won? Each country puts your best eleven out there and European countries will win their share of Women's World Cups just as they do Men's. There have been more entertaining, competitive matches than I recall in past Women's World Cups. That's a good thing.

Women's professional soccer may very well end up being more successful in Europe where soccer is the #1 sport and there are fewer competing pro leagues. That would certainly help the development of the sport at the highest level over there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes the world is getting better at women's soccer and the US is not going to win every or every other World Cup. That's just the way it is going to be - enjoy the current success and quit with the sky is falling.

Brazil has the best, deepest men's player pool - what's the last World Cup they won? Each country puts your best eleven out there and European countries will win their share of Women's World Cups just as they do Men's. There have been more entertaining, competitive matches than I recall in past Women's World Cups. That's a good thing.

Women's professional soccer may very well end up being more successful in Europe where soccer is the #1 sport and there are fewer competing pro leagues. That would certainly help the development of the sport at the highest level over there.


Brazil does not have the best players any more. The US women needs to modernize their game. That is coaching. It’s hard to watch them lose possession so much on even easy passes. They also passed up open players in the box a few times. The game should have been 3-1 or 3-2 game. Also the US goalie’s distribution of the ball was poor.
Anonymous
What are you folks smoking. Look at any college team and you will find an increasing number of foreign players filling roster spots. The world has caught us and will surpass us. With all but two
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What are you folks smoking. Look at any college team and you will find an increasing number of foreign players filling roster spots. The world has caught us and will surpass us. With all but two


You again. Go sit down.
Anonymous
You all are such haters. No matter the topic...hate hate hate

Most of you are upset we made the finals. You wanted to see failure. Just a miserable group of human beings.

This is an old team. It will be modernized with the new crop of kids coming in.

Anonymous





The success of the USWNT will be the biggest dagger to the heart of US Soccer since the USMNT failed to qualify for the WC. The reason is that if the women win, and they probably will, it will further enable US Soccer to live in the delusion that they know what they are doing. This WWC has revealed several things:
1. The gap has closed. The US women have been outplayed in several games, and other teams probably feel the way NFL fans feel when their team has to play the Patriots: calls and good fortune have been on the US's side.
2. Defense sucks. Our defense I mean. Our CBs are a disaster, and it is the case on both the men's and women's sides. We get away with poor marking consistently, and US Soccer puts little to no emphasis on defense in its courses.
3. Shooting. How many goals have the women's players' skied? We kid ourselves into thinking we play " possession" style ( we don't) , and we will walk the ball in. The women are dreadfully inefficient at volleys and, since we outlaw headers for some ridiculous reason at the youth level, that will cost us too.
4. Coaching- Ellis is a bad coach with great players. She can't sub, she disrupts chemistry, she cannot deal with angry players. Press is a better player than Rapinoe- sorry. She should have been on all along and was only in today due to "injury". That bit of luck saved Ellis. Rapinoe doesn't have the pace to be where Press was when Press scored.
Had the women lost to Spain, as they probably should have, it may have forced changes in US Soccer. Since the women will probably win, US Soccer can point at them and say " See ? We DO know what we are doing?" And play the tired old "The best US athletes play other sports" card. Success sometimes fails, and this is one of those times

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You'd think we went 0-3 in pool play.

These posts always ignore the fact the rest of the world was so far behind the US, they have a much larger delta to reduce, so they may be catching up, but it doesn't mean doom and gloom for the US.

Dominant entities in sports always lose sometimes, fall back to the pack and the pack catches up. It happens --- it actually makes things more interesting.



Anonymous
I used to kind of like this forum, but no more. Too many negative posters that even when we win still post negative, clueless crap. Negative about US socccer, negative about DC metro soccer, negative about other’s kids, and negative about their own sad pathetic lives.
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