MCPS covid cases

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Anonymous wrote:Name the kid who is coming to school with COVID and tell the teachers too. Lets see how this will play out come college admission time. POS.

It sounds like it wasn't the child's fault and parents made them go to school.

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Freudian slip? They didn’t play a part in the return, but they certainly played a part in the failure to reopen. Specifically, MCEA certainly did, through impact bargaining and political lobbying at the local and state levels. And who makes up MCEA’s membership?

When the crazies were screaming to reopen as the body count was piling up, teachers acted with reason. This kept our children safe.

Jesus H. The power of denial. So strong.

school closure last year was a mistake. A huge mistake. And most everyone is starting to realize that it did almost nothing to stop the spread and came at an enormous cost to students.

I know its hard to admit that you were wrong. But you were. very very wrong.

Those that wanted to open in Sept 2020 were right. And their predictions about learning loss, mental health, development, etc all, sadly, came true

The lockdowners will never admit they were wrong. That would mean coming to terms with harming 160,000 kids for no reason.

It's a really dumb debate and has been oversimplified horribly. In places that provided real mitigations, schools could have opened sooner, no question. In places that did hardly any, harm was done. Time to use our lessons learned and move forward and insist on keeping schools open the right way.

You make a good point.

But here, in MoCo, almost nobody was advocating to just throw the doors open. Almost everyone, including the organized groups, wanted it open, with mitigations.

But they were all accused of being "teacher-killers" or wanting "dead children in the hallways"

It was near impossible to have the conversation about how to open because those want to say remote refused to come to the conversation in good faith.

We have very little in terms of mitigation except masking, which is inconsistent in school.

I don't get why you are debating this. Any of us who didn't feel safe to return, choose to remain in virtual. Simple. You are creating problems that aren't there. If cases go up, there is little testing, so MCPS will not know and not close. So, move on already.

One reason our numbers were lower was because schools were not in person.

If it were really true that MCPS wasn't doing any mitigations, that would simply even more strongly suggest covid isn't a concern in schools.

Though in reality, MCPS has been aggressively enforcing quarantine requirements, implementing cohorting to varying degrees, and coercively enrolling students in surveillance testing.

I know you need to constantly work at convincing yourself that in-person school is dangerous to justify the harm you're doing to your children, but you should at least get your facts straight.

No the difference is most adults and older students are vaccinated.

My child are harmed by people like you who don’t take Covid seriously.

Considering no one in my family has had covid, I don't see how you could possibly suggest I've done anything to harm your kids. That's all on you. Get them vaccinated and get yourself boosted.

It’s a brand new vaccine and the safety for kids has not really been determined yet. Once all of you get your kids vaccinated so you can resume your risky behavior, there will be more data for the rest of us. Thanks!!

It's a vax built on 15 years of research starting with the first SARS.

15 years of research is good but that is not the point. We don’t know long term safety.

name a vaccine with side effects that lay dormant for 6+ months.

There isn't one.

All previous vaccines have been thoroughly vetted. They aren’t RNA-based either.

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Freudian slip? They didn’t play a part in the return, but they certainly played a part in the failure to reopen. Specifically, MCEA certainly did, through impact bargaining and political lobbying at the local and state levels. And who makes up MCEA’s membership?

When the crazies were screaming to reopen as the body count was piling up, teachers acted with reason. This kept our children safe.

Jesus H. The power of denial. So strong.

school closure last year was a mistake. A huge mistake. And most everyone is starting to realize that it did almost nothing to stop the spread and came at an enormous cost to students.

I know its hard to admit that you were wrong. But you were. very very wrong.

Those that wanted to open in Sept 2020 were right. And their predictions about learning loss, mental health, development, etc all, sadly, came true

The lockdowners will never admit they were wrong. That would mean coming to terms with harming 160,000 kids for no reason.

It's a really dumb debate and has been oversimplified horribly. In places that provided real mitigations, schools could have opened sooner, no question. In places that did hardly any, harm was done. Time to use our lessons learned and move forward and insist on keeping schools open the right way.

You make a good point.

But here, in MoCo, almost nobody was advocating to just throw the doors open. Almost everyone, including the organized groups, wanted it open, with mitigations.

But they were all accused of being "teacher-killers" or wanting "dead children in the hallways"

It was near impossible to have the conversation about how to open because those want to say remote refused to come to the conversation in good faith.

We have very little in terms of mitigation except masking, which is inconsistent in school.

I don't get why you are debating this. Any of us who didn't feel safe to return, choose to remain in virtual. Simple. You are creating problems that aren't there. If cases go up, there is little testing, so MCPS will not know and not close. So, move on already.

One reason our numbers were lower was because schools were not in person.

If it were really true that MCPS wasn't doing any mitigations, that would simply even more strongly suggest covid isn't a concern in schools.

Though in reality, MCPS has been aggressively enforcing quarantine requirements, implementing cohorting to varying degrees, and coercively enrolling students in surveillance testing.

I know you need to constantly work at convincing yourself that in-person school is dangerous to justify the harm you're doing to your children, but you should at least get your facts straight.

No the difference is most adults and older students are vaccinated.

My child are harmed by people like you who don’t take Covid seriously.

Considering no one in my family has had covid, I don't see how you could possibly suggest I've done anything to harm your kids. That's all on you. Get them vaccinated and get yourself boosted.

It’s a brand new vaccine and the safety for kids has not really been determined yet. Once all of you get your kids vaccinated so you can resume your risky behavior, there will be more data for the rest of us. Thanks!!

It's a vax built on 15 years of research starting with the first SARS.

15 years of research is good but that is not the point. We don’t know long term safety.

name a vaccine with side effects that lay dormant for 6+ months.

There isn't one.

All previous vaccines have been thoroughly vetted. They aren’t RNA-based either.

Right... I'd never get a vaccine containing RNA. I don't want that dangerous stuff in my body!

Unfortunately, it seems like I probably need to explicitly add the /s to this post, since many people will be oblivious to how ridiculous this is.

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So, your answer to anything you don't like is someone is an anti-vaxxer even though they are vaccinated. You really need to work on your talking points.

There are a lot of pieces of writing in the world I don't like. Most of them are not written by anti-vaxxers. The article you (or whoever) linked to, from 1999, was written by anti-vaxxers. In addition, further research did not support the anti-vaxxers' claim.

There are lots of issues with vaccines. You can deny it all you want, but you are just fortunate you nor your family has had any issues with them.

The majority of people are vaccinated in MoCo so you need to find new talking points other than slamming people for being anti-vaccine given most are vaccinated. Clearly these vaccines help with symptoms but they are not as good at stoping covid as you were told. So, this is going to be a never ending issue as people aren't willing to be part of the solution beyond only partially effective vaccines to help stop covid.

This particular issue was whether there are long-term consequences of vaccines in the absence of short-term consequences, and the answer is no.

The vaccines are highly effective at stopping covid, as well as at stopping transmission of the virus SARS-CoV-2.

They aren't highly effective as we are still having vaccinated people get covid. And, we need a booster after 6 months, with the booster being another full dose.

Antivaxxers.

Don't conflate infection with the coronavirus with suffering covid19.

1) they are highly effective; people getting infected with coronavirus rarely suffer without already having other comorbidities, and rarely transmit.
2) the pfizer booster is same dose, moderna is half dose.

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Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

Same mentality. I don’t care about anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

Same mentality. I don’t care about anyone else.

Kind of like the teachers that fought attempts to reopen schools, seeking to avoid a small risk to themselves at the expense of students.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

Same mentality. I don’t care about anyone else.

Kind of like the teachers that fought attempts to reopen schools, seeking to avoid a small risk to themselves at the expense of students.

lock up the teachers too?

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

Actually, its killed a lot of people in this country so yes, you spreading covid could kill someone.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

Same mentality. I don’t care about anyone else.

Kind of like the teachers that fought attempts to reopen schools, seeking to avoid a small risk to themselves at the expense of students.

Teachers did not fight attempts. They had no decision making power. The union fought it until we had vaccines and safety precautions own place. Its funny how many parents worked form home for safety and still do and yet, demand others go in person to babysit their kids.

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Teachers did not fight attempts. They had no decision making power. The union fought it until we had vaccines and safety precautions own place. Its funny how many parents worked form home for safety and still do and yet, demand others go in person to babysit their kids.

This can't have been posted by a teacher, because teachers don't consider teaching to be "babysitting".

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Go take the arguments about vaccines and boosters over to the health forum. This thread is about cases in MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the parents who knowingly sent their bragging daughter to school with covid, the same type of irresponsible parents who are now in jail?

Nah. Spreading covid is not the same as shooting up people.

Same mentality. I don’t care about anyone else.

Kind of like the teachers that fought attempts to reopen schools, seeking to avoid a small risk to themselves at the expense of students.

Teachers did not fight attempts. They had no decision making power. The union fought it until we had vaccines and safety precautions own place. Its funny how many parents worked form home for safety and still do and yet, demand others go in person to babysit their kids.

You're saying teachers didn't fight a return to classrooms, only MCEA? Who makes up MCEA's membership?

And plenty of parents were working on-site throughout the pandemic, particularly people holding jobs with responsibilities that could not be accomplished as effectively in a remote fashion (e.g., health care, emergency services, child care, personal services, retail, food service, and many, many more).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go take the arguments about vaccines and boosters over to the health forum. This thread is about cases in MCPS.

There isn’t many so it’s a boring discussion.