It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

This is the deep fear of white racists. They fear the chickens will come home to roost. That’s a terrifying story, and white people fear that in another generation or two, the rope will swing for them.

And the angry PP will probably be leading the mob to get get those evil white people. You know, the ones responsible for that crazy 18th century story she told.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

Why don’t you read about something that happened in 2020 instead of 1920? Like blacks murdering blacks and black kids by the thousands every year? It sounds as if you are searching for an excuse for a failed life- reading books about things that happened in 1920 don’t excuse you from being a failure today.

Why don’t you want to accept the fact that the horrible events of 1920 AND 2020 are both the results of four hundred years of slavery, oppression, racism and outright discrimination?

Reparations will help our people get in a better place, and then the process of healing may begin.

DP here. Because that's not a fact, it's an interpretation. If you knew the difference, you would better understand what the disagreement is about.

[Anonymous]

Hey. Both sides of my family immigrated here in the early 1900s. Do I have to pay too? Also, will black people have to pay taxes that will pay to pay them back? Hmmmm....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

Why don’t you read about something that happened in 2020 instead of 1920? Like blacks murdering blacks and black kids by the thousands every year? It sounds as if you are searching for an excuse for a failed life- reading books about things that happened in 1920 don’t excuse you from being a failure today.

Why don’t you want to accept the fact that the horrible events of 1920 AND 2020 are both the results of four hundred years of slavery, oppression, racism and outright discrimination?

Reparations will help our people get in a better place, and then the process of healing may begin.

DP here. First, that story, if portrayed accurately, is absolutely tragic. I think stories like that deserve to be told and retold.

But you seem to oversimplify history. Slavery was not a government institution from which the American public at large benefited. It was a heinous practice by a fraction of the population, largely rich plantation owners in the South. It was morally reprehensible that US governments turned a blind eye to it, but as history proved it was almost untenable, it took one of the bloodiest civil wars to abolish it.

Today America is largely made up of the descendants of non-slave owning working farmers and waves of slave-wage immigrants. They don’t feel shame and they don’t feel guilt. They feel a lot of sympathy, but they will not write you a blank check.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

Why don’t you read about something that happened in 2020 instead of 1920? Like blacks murdering blacks and black kids by the thousands every year? It sounds as if you are searching for an excuse for a failed life- reading books about things that happened in 1920 don’t excuse you from being a failure today.

Why don’t you want to accept the fact that the horrible events of 1920 AND 2020 are both the results of four hundred years of slavery, oppression, racism and outright discrimination?

Reparations will help our people get in a better place, and then the process of healing may begin.

DP here. First, that story, if portrayed accurately, is absolutely tragic. I think stories like that deserve to be told and retold.

But you seem to oversimplify history. Slavery was not a government institution from which the American public at large benefited. It was a heinous practice by a fraction of the population, largely rich plantation owners in the South. It was morally reprehensible that US governments turned a blind eye to it, but as history proved it was almost untenable, it took one of the bloodiest civil wars to abolish it.

Today America is largely made up of the descendants of non-slave owning working farmers and waves of slave-wage immigrants. They don’t feel shame and they don’t feel guilt. They feel a lot of sympathy, but they will not write you a blank check.

We should. We (the US) need to atone for atrocities.
- descendant of working farmer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey. Both sides of my family immigrated here in the early 1900s. Do I have to pay too? Also, will black people have to pay taxes that will pay to pay them back? Hmmmm....

Already asked and answered. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why don’t you want to accept the fact that the horrible events of 1920 AND 2020 are both the results of four hundred years of slavery, oppression, racism and outright discrimination?

Reparations will help our people get in a better place, and then the process of healing may begin.

DP here. First, that story, if portrayed accurately, is absolutely tragic. I think stories like that deserve to be told and retold.

But you seem to oversimplify history. Slavery was not a government institution from which the American public at large benefited. It was a heinous practice by a fraction of the population, largely rich plantation owners in the South. It was morally reprehensible that US governments turned a blind eye to it, but as history proved it was almost untenable, it took one of the bloodiest civil wars to abolish it.

Today America is largely made up of the descendants of non-slave owning working farmers and waves of slave-wage immigrants. They don’t feel shame and they don’t feel guilt. They feel a lot of sympathy, but they will not write you a blank check.

We should. We (the US) need to atone for atrocities.
- descendant of working farmer

No you are not. You are the same semi-literate reparations troll.

[Anonymous]

Meh, not even a little bit interested in paying for the sins of people that I have no connection to. As the child of immigrants I don’t enjoy the quota benefits that blacks do in higher education, government sourcing, corporate purchasing etc. I’d say those advantages and decades of social welfare programs are reparations enough......time to stand on your own two feet and enough with the handouts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hey. Both sides of my family immigrated here in the early 1900s. Do I have to pay too? Also, will black people have to pay taxes that will pay to pay them back? Hmmmm....

Already asked and answered. Try to keep up.

Exactly.

And for the people who didn’t bother to read, and keep asking this question, YES, you are responsible for reparations.

It doesn’t matter if you are an immigrant who showed up here two years ago, or twenty years ago.

You benefited from a social structure with baked in racism. The institutions that helped you advance in this country, regardless of how hard you “worked,” have been oppressing us for four centuries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh, not even a little bit interested in paying for the sins of people that I have no connection to. As the child of immigrants I don’t enjoy the quota benefits that blacks do in higher education, government sourcing, corporate purchasing etc. I’d say those advantages and decades of social welfare programs are reparations enough......time to stand on your own two feet and enough with the handouts.

Yep. African Americans have more resources and opportunities than the many immigrants who come here and succeed. They have equal opportunities, if not more, than every other citizen of all color. Money directly to people won't fix the problems in the African American community. Police brutality is a problem, but it isn't what is keeping African Americans from incurring wealth and moving up in life.

[Anonymous]

Nah. I am 2nd generation American. Grandfather came over from Austria to flee WW2. Didn't speak a word of English.

I believe I read reparations would be paid to direct descendants of slaves; seems only fair that they are then paid by direct descendants of slave owners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

Why don’t you read about something that happened in 2020 instead of 1920? Like blacks murdering blacks and black kids by the thousands every year? It sounds as if you are searching for an excuse for a failed life- reading books about things that happened in 1920 don’t excuse you from being a failure today.

Why don’t you want to accept the fact that the horrible events of 1920 AND 2020 are both the results of four hundred years of slavery, oppression, racism and outright discrimination?

Reparations will help our people get in a better place, and then the process of healing may begin.

DP here. First, that story, if portrayed accurately, is absolutely tragic. I think stories like that deserve to be told and retold.

But you seem to oversimplify history. Slavery was not a government institution from which the American public at large benefited. It was a heinous practice by a fraction of the population, largely rich plantation owners in the South. It was morally reprehensible that US governments turned a blind eye to it, but as history proved it was almost untenable, it took one of the bloodiest civil wars to abolish it.

Today America is largely made up of the descendants of non-slave owning working farmers and waves of slave-wage immigrants. They don’t feel shame and they don’t feel guilt. They feel a lot of sympathy, but they will not write you a blank check.

Oversimplification is the point. If I can get you to buy a simple narrative that presumes your guilt for the sins of others, I can get you to pay me cash for absolution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey. Both sides of my family immigrated here in the early 1900s. Do I have to pay too? Also, will black people have to pay taxes that will pay to pay them back? Hmmmm....

With any type of government issued money in America, it is considered "free money" from the "free money tree"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nah. I am 2nd generation American. Grandfather came over from Austria to flee WW2. Didn't speak a word of English.

I believe I read reparations would be paid to direct descendants of slaves; seems only fair that they are then paid by direct descendants of slave owners.

We have both in our interracial family, as do the Obamas. Does Barack pay Michelle and the kids? Errrr....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

Why don’t you read about something that happened in 2020 instead of 1920? Like blacks murdering blacks and black kids by the thousands every year? It sounds as if you are searching for an excuse for a failed life- reading books about things that happened in 1920 don’t excuse you from being a failure today.

Why don’t you want to accept the fact that the horrible events of 1920 AND 2020 are both the results of four hundred years of slavery, oppression, racism and outright discrimination?

Reparations will help our people get in a better place, and then the process of healing may begin.

DP here. First, that story, if portrayed accurately, is absolutely tragic. I think stories like that deserve to be told and retold.

But you seem to oversimplify history. Slavery was not a government institution from which the American public at large benefited. It was a heinous practice by a fraction of the population, largely rich plantation owners in the South. It was morally reprehensible that US governments turned a blind eye to it, but as history proved it was almost untenable, it took one of the bloodiest civil wars to abolish it.

Today America is largely made up of the descendants of non-slave owning working farmers and waves of slave-wage immigrants. They don’t feel shame and they don’t feel guilt. They feel a lot of sympathy, but they will not write you a blank check.

We should. We (the US) need to atone for atrocities.
- descendant of working farmer

Two things. One, the vast majority of Americans don’t share your sentiment (per polls). Two, should we atone to sweatshop workers in Asia and how much are you willing to pay for it? In this case you directly have benefited from it.