Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

11:46, the story you relate is truly horrifying.

[Anonymous]

I'm upset about common core because it's less about teducating students than it is about undermining the authority and expertise of teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm upset about common core because it's less about teducating students than it is about undermining the authority and expertise of teachers.

PP here. I'm not sure what "teducating" is, but COMMON CORE ISN'T ABOUT IT!

Derp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What computer? The classroom's? The school's? You haven't answered my question.

His school jumped on computer bandwagon in mid-90's. He was taught keyboarding in second or third grade-at school. He took to it very quickly.

Last time. Was your child allowed to bring his own laptop due to a diagnosed learning disorder, or was your child allowed to use the school computer when the teacher allowed. My child had a computer in his room too. It would not be enough to share that.

At his private, every child carries a personal laptop. There is no sharing of that resource. This is what my child's IEP required that the public refused to allow. Dysgraphic disfunction is not simply messy writing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, public schools are government schools. They are also public schools. Both terms are equally accurate. So why, exactly, have certain people started calling them "government schools"?

And (as you say), it's also government water, government sewer, and government roads. Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax County Water Authority, Fairfax County Wastewater Management, Fairfax County Department of Transportation. (And I certainly hope you don't believe that there are no federal regulations or federal dollars involved in the latter three.)

Because people don't always understand that concept.

There should not be federal dollars in anything not explicitly stated in the Constitution. Therein lies the issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, public schools are government schools. They are also public schools. Both terms are equally accurate. So why, exactly, have certain people started calling them "government schools"?

And (as you say), it's also government water, government sewer, and government roads. Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax County Water Authority, Fairfax County Wastewater Management, Fairfax County Department of Transportation. (And I certainly hope you don't believe that there are no federal regulations or federal dollars involved in the latter three.)

Because people don't always understand that concept.

There should not be federal dollars in anything not explicitly stated in the Constitution. Therein lies the issue

You oppose the Common Core standards because the word "education" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. Gotcha.

(You know another word that does not appear in the U.S. Constitution? "Gun".)

[Anonymous]

Last time. Was your child allowed to bring his own laptop due to a diagnosed learning disorder, or was your child allowed to use the school computer when the teacher allowed. My child had a computer in his room too. It would not be enough to share that.

No. He did not have a personal laptop in elementary school--this was fifteen years ago. He was not officially diagnosed--I was assured by the OT that he would be okay when he was taught cursive which never happened.

[Anonymous]

cont. I wish I had pushed for a diagnosis, but I didn't. However, he did write when necessary at school--math and tests. For essays, I think he pretty much used the computer in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, he can now type 90+ words per minute and he is employed in a professional job. He still "draws" letters when he has to handwrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, public schools are government schools. They are also public schools. Both terms are equally accurate. So why, exactly, have certain people started calling them "government schools"?

And (as you say), it's also government water, government sewer, and government roads. Fairfax County Public Schools, Fairfax County Water Authority, Fairfax County Wastewater Management, Fairfax County Department of Transportation. (And I certainly hope you don't believe that there are no federal regulations or federal dollars involved in the latter three.)

Because people don't always understand that concept.

There should not be federal dollars in anything not explicitly stated in the Constitution. Therein lies the issue

You oppose the Common Core standards because the word "education" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. Gotcha.

(You know another word that does not appear in the U.S. Constitution? "Gun".)

'Armed' does.

Find me where it says the Feds will pay to educate every child in the US.

I oppose education that doesn't educate because it's implemented poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, he can now type 90+ words per minute and he is employed in a professional job. He still "draws" letters when he has to handwrite.

And probably always will. And that's as it should be.

I don't know if you understand that an IEP is binding by law. The school, in denying him the use of a laptop, was breaking the law. If his IEP said "use of a computer when it was available in the room", then fine. But it did not.

Not using a laptop meant my son could not take notes. Now, is this a deal breaker? No. Because dysgraphic kids are good listeners. But of course some of his teachers insisted he take notes, even knowing he could not physically do so and get the gist of the lecture. It's in his IEP. It was brought to their attention, and it was ignored because "it's not fair to others".

Epic BS.

[Anonymous]

Not using a laptop meant my son could not take notes. Now, is this a deal breaker? No. Because dysgraphic kids are good listeners. But of course some of his teachers insisted he take notes, even knowing he could not physically do so and get the gist of the lecture. It's in his IEP. It was brought to their attention, and it was ignored because "it's not fair to others".

Epic BS

Your son's problem may be worse than my son's. Remember, he was in elem in the '90's when the use of computers was kind of new-especially in the classroom, but the use was looked on with favor. His teachers were pretty understanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm upset about common core because it's less about teducating students than it is about undermining the authority and expertise of teachers.

WRONG

Common Core is a minimum standard. Teachers are still perfectly free to go above and beyond it, and "teducate" their students however more expertly than what Common Core dictates, provide they at least meet Common Core as a minimum.

[Anonymous]

From Amazon.com:

"PUBLIC EDUCATION IS NEVER MENTIONED IN THE CONSTITUTION. WHY? BECAUSE OUR FOUNDERS KNEW THAT IT WAS AN ISSUE FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS--NOT THE FEDERAL ONE.

It's not a coincidence that the more the federal government has inserted itself into public education over the years, the worse our kids have fared. Washington dangles millions of dollars in front of states and then tells them what they have to do to get it. It's backdoor nationalization of education--and it's leading us to ruin.

In Conform, Glenn Beck presents a well-reasoned, fact-based analysis that proves it's not more money our schools need--it's a complete refocusing of their priorities and a total restructuring of their relationship with the federal government. In the process, he dismantles many of the common myths and talking points that are often heard by those who want to protect the status quo.

Critics of the current system are just "TEACHER BASHERS"...Teachers' unions put KIDS FIRST...Homeschooled kids SUFFER both ACADEMICALLY and SOCIALLY..."LOCAL CONTROL" is an excuse to protect MEDIOCRITY...COMMON CORE is "RIGOROUS" and "STATE LED"...Critics of Common Core are just CONSPIRACY THEORISTS...Elementary school teachers need TENURE...We CAN'T REFORM schools until we ERADICATE POVERTY...SCHOOL CHOICE takes money away from PUBLIC SCHOOLS...CHARTER SCHOOLS perform poorly relative to public schools.

There is no issue more important to America's future than education. The fact that we've yielded control over it to powerful unions and ideologically driven elitists is inexcusable. We are failing ourselves, our children, and our country. Conform gives parents the facts they need to take back the debate and help usher in a new era of education built around the commonsense principles of choice, freedom, and accountability."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm upset about common core because it's less about teducating students than it is about undermining the authority and expertise of teachers.

WRONG

Common Core is a minimum standard. Teachers are still perfectly free to go above and beyond it, and "teducate" their students however more expertly than what Common Core dictates, provide they at least meet Common Core as a minimum.

Again, truly naive. Most kids are failing common core, and learning less and less under its confusing LOUSY "standards."

There will be no time to go above the standards, because everyone is drowning.