Active shooter on Brown campus

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

I'm someone who posted a few times yesterday, saying I just felt there was something off/suspicious about that earlier POI - the one who was released.

There were details that just didn't add up for me, but I have learned a few things.

First off, I had read about the police identifying possible suspects by using the cell phone information - but we don't actually know that was part of the reason they looked at that initial POI. It might not have been cell phones - it could well have been just a tip from someone at his hotel.

Second, I found it very odd that a young man his age, no job, some kind of Brown connection (on his LinkedIn), was just staying in a hotel in Rhode Island with firearms. I was imagining he was on a trip, visiting.. who brings a rifle with a laser sight on a trip like that? It just seemed quite off.

But if you actually have moved to a hotel because you are living in it for a period of time, (i.e. your apartment flooded and you are moving to a new area to study) and that's your current housing situation, and you happen to have firearms, then yes, you bring them with you and store them in your domicile. So if that's the situation, then that is less suspicious.

Third, I'm a Brown grad and I felt it was odd that someone with a military background (as per his LinkedIn) would a) be interested in Brown as a transfer student b) have all those do gooder/volunteer activities listed. And his academic background just didn't seem very competitive for Brown's admission. However, what I had no idea about, is that Brown has been actively encouraging older, non-traditional students to apply for resumed education as transfer students, and they have particularly been reaching out to vets. It's a great program, and it seems like the individual who was initially a POI would have exactly the type of background and interests that they'd be looking for.

https://www.brown.edu/news/2019-11-11/veterans


If he had applied to this program, and been accepted for the Spring Semester, say, I think he might be enrolled as a "special student" and therefore not necessarily on the usual rosters that people might check when asked if he were a student. It's quite believable actually.

I'm sorry this individual was caught up in suspicion and I hope his name isn't spread around any longer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

I'm someone who posted a few times yesterday, saying I just felt there was something off/suspicious about that earlier POI - the one who was released.

There were details that just didn't add up for me, but I have learned a few things.

First off, I had read about the police identifying possible suspects by using the cell phone information - but we don't actually know that was part of the reason they looked at that initial POI. It might not have been cell phones - it could well have been just a tip from someone at his hotel.

Second, I found it very odd that a young man his age, no job, some kind of Brown connection (on his LinkedIn), was just staying in a hotel in Rhode Island with firearms. I was imagining he was on a trip, visiting.. who brings a rifle with a laser sight on a trip like that? It just seemed quite off.

But if you actually have moved to a hotel because you are living in it for a period of time, (i.e. your apartment flooded and you are moving to a new area to study) and that's your current housing situation, and you happen to have firearms, then yes, you bring them with you and store them in your domicile. So if that's the situation, then that is less suspicious.

Third, I'm a Brown grad and I felt it was odd that someone with a military background (as per his LinkedIn) would a) be interested in Brown as a transfer student b) have all those do gooder/volunteer activities listed. And his academic background just didn't seem very competitive for Brown's admission. However, what I had no idea about, is that Brown has been actively encouraging older, non-traditional students to apply for resumed education as transfer students, and they have particularly been reaching out to vets. It's a great program, and it seems like the individual who was initially a POI would have exactly the type of background and interests that they'd be looking for.

https://www.brown.edu/news/2019-11-11/veterans


If he had applied to this program, and been accepted for the Spring Semester, say, I think he might be enrolled as a "special student" and therefore not necessarily on the usual rosters that people might check when asked if he were a student. It's quite believable actually.

I'm sorry this individual was caught up in suspicion and I hope his name isn't spread around any longer.

It wasn't a rifle; it was a revolver and a Glock. The Glock reportedly had a laser sight, but I wonder if it was actually a red-dot sight, which are extremely common these days, and got misconstrued.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We assume to president of Brown is just playing dumb to protect the investigation, right? She couldn't actually be that clueless, right?

Should she probably know more? Yes, But that lady is an economics professor by trade, she isn’t a cop. Really she should just be concerned about the well-being of the students and staff. I feel like usually they don’t go after school leadership like this during these events.

She’s not an economics professor. She’s a pediatrician. People, please do not believe everything you read on this forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We assume to president of Brown is just playing dumb to protect the investigation, right? She couldn't actually be that clueless, right?

Should she probably know more? Yes, But that lady is an economics professor by trade, she isn’t a cop. Really she should just be concerned about the well-being of the students and staff. I feel like usually they don’t go after school leadership like this during these events.

She’s not an economics professor. She’s a pediatrician. People, please do not believe everything you read on this forum.

Christina Paxon is an economist, not a pediatrician. But the point remains, that this forum is often a cesspool of misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We assume to president of Brown is just playing dumb to protect the investigation, right? She couldn't actually be that clueless, right?

Should she probably know more? Yes, But that lady is an economics professor by trade, she isn’t a cop. Really she should just be concerned about the well-being of the students and staff. I feel like usually they don’t go after school leadership like this during these events.

She’s not an economics professor. She’s a pediatrician. People, please do not believe everything you read on this forum.

Do I have the wrong person?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Paxson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

I'm someone who posted a few times yesterday, saying I just felt there was something off/suspicious about that earlier POI - the one who was released.

There were details that just didn't add up for me, but I have learned a few things.

First off, I had read about the police identifying possible suspects by using the cell phone information - but we don't actually know that was part of the reason they looked at that initial POI. It might not have been cell phones - it could well have been just a tip from someone at his hotel.

Second, I found it very odd that a young man his age, no job, some kind of Brown connection (on his LinkedIn), was just staying in a hotel in Rhode Island with firearms. I was imagining he was on a trip, visiting.. who brings a rifle with a laser sight on a trip like that? It just seemed quite off.

But if you actually have moved to a hotel because you are living in it for a period of time, (i.e. your apartment flooded and you are moving to a new area to study) and that's your current housing situation, and you happen to have firearms, then yes, you bring them with you and store them in your domicile. So if that's the situation, then that is less suspicious.

Third, I'm a Brown grad and I felt it was odd that someone with a military background (as per his LinkedIn) would a) be interested in Brown as a transfer student b) have all those do gooder/volunteer activities listed. And his academic background just didn't seem very competitive for Brown's admission. However, what I had no idea about, is that Brown has been actively encouraging older, non-traditional students to apply for resumed education as transfer students, and they have particularly been reaching out to vets. It's a great program, and it seems like the individual who was initially a POI would have exactly the type of background and interests that they'd be looking for.

https://www.brown.edu/news/2019-11-11/veterans


If he had applied to this program, and been accepted for the Spring Semester, say, I think he might be enrolled as a "special student" and therefore not necessarily on the usual rosters that people might check when asked if he were a student. It's quite believable actually.

I'm sorry this individual was caught up in suspicion and I hope his name isn't spread around any longer.

You’re sorry that this individual “was caught up in suspicion”???

What you should be sorry for is your unwarranted speculation that contributed to the harm suffered by an apparently innocent person.

You’re part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No way it’s a woman. Not seeing that at all

Unless identifies as a woman. Had a very masculine gait and carriage.

[Anonymous]

I can’t believe the perp has not been found yet. I hope they get him soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think clasping hands behind back is kind of distinctive. I don't see many people do that,

Yes. I tried put my hands back like that-uncomfortable.

It’s usually uncomfortable for people carrying extra weight up top to put their hands behind their back. But it might be what you do if you don’t want to risk folding your arms in front, both to avoid accidentally discharging something or further define any odd shapes you might be concealing there.

It’s also not a hard and fast rule, but I’d think a woman with this generally larger shape would have more of a “boob shelf” up top that would be difficult to hide.

I will say that if this did turn out to be a woman, that would be a wild twist with probably an even wilder story behind it. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a female mass shooter where it wasn’t something like their own family, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We assume to president of Brown is just playing dumb to protect the investigation, right? She couldn't actually be that clueless, right?

Should she probably know more? Yes, But that lady is an economics professor by trade, she isn’t a cop. Really she should just be concerned about the well-being of the students and staff. I feel like usually they don’t go after school leadership like this during these events.

She’s not an economics professor. She’s a pediatrician. People, please do not believe everything you read on this forum.

Specifically what you just wrote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the perp has not been found yet. I hope they get him soon.

Our FBI director is too busy talking about his girlfriend on podcasts. He can’t do it ALL.

[Anonymous]

What day is this?! My geez

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the perp has not been found yet. I hope they get him soon.

Our FBI director is too busy talking about his girlfriend on podcasts. He can’t do it ALL.

Get with the program. The FBI does not have jurisdiction in this. Yet.

[Anonymous]

They HAVE to know who it is if they’ve said there’s no more threat to the community. Right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They HAVE to know who it is if they’ve said there’s no more threat to the community. Right?

wrong