Kamala Harris for President

[Anonymous]

It’s actually better if a Dem wins in 2028 not this year. I don’t foresee any justices retiring or dying in the next 4 years. The next major period will be 2028-2032.

Clarence won’t step down if Kamala is president . He wants to step down if Trump is President.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s actually better if a Dem wins in 2028 not this year. I don’t foresee any justices retiring or dying in the next 4 years. The next major period will be 2028-2032.

Clarence won’t step down if Kamala is president . He wants to step down if Trump is President.

Perhaps there will be legislative reform to the ethics requirement

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Anonymous wrote:It’s actually better if a Dem wins in 2028 not this year. I don’t foresee any justices retiring or dying in the next 4 years. The next major period will be 2028-2032.

Clarence won’t step down if Kamala is president . He wants to step down if Trump is President.

It’s not just the Supreme Court that matters, people. Sheesh.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

They had a filibuster proof majority for less than a year into Obama's first term at the start of one of the worst financial crises since the Great Depression. They got the ACA passed while seeking GOP buy in along with a stimulus act. Everything else was focused on getting us out of the next Great Depression, nitwit.

Yes, the bailout recycled from Bush that he passed bailing out the banks instead of jailing them and bailing out the homeowners . He used all that time to pass Romney care and extend Bush tax cuts for the rich (of course) then blamed young people/millennials for sitting out the midterms. The Dems have the audacity to blame progressives and young people . They sit out elections because they do nothing. Instead of fake tears over Sandy Hook, they should’ve passed assault weapon bans when they had the filibuster proof majorities which was often.

Republicans did not win the Senate and Congress at all and were decimated post-Bush and even Before in 2006. I remember Nancy Pelosi refused to impeach Bush over lying about Iraq but they all spent billions in tax payer funds to impeach Trump twice for paying porn stars and classified docs and failed

Filibuster proof majorities were there for far more than a year .

The Dems are nothing but a cluster f of disappointment to progressives pushed toward Trump like myself . The Dem Party deserves to burn to ash and rebuild from the beginning

The Democrats are a coalition of many interests. What has the GOP ever done for you? I'll wait. The sad thing is, they can just obstruct because, other than tax cuts and now mass deportations, they don't have any policies. Or rather, they don't have any popular policies. It's just easier to block the other side and say, "See government doesn't work. Vote for me!"

You are missing the lede. You aren’t talking to MAGA here. It’s not Dems vs MAGA. It’s Dems vs stay home.

We know you feel energized and hopeful. And that’s great! But we don’t. A Harris vote seems like kicking the can down the road. We turned out for HRC. We turned out for Biden-Harris. We still lost our rights and the Dems have shown us no plans to fight back, just asking us for cash and votes.

You know what, just stay home and suffer Project 202t.

Seriously.

I’m asking what the Dem plan is to codify law or otherwise prevent it from happening. Because if they don’t have a plan, and execute it, it’s coming.

But asking these questions is deeply unpopular.

I answered you earlier and you didn’t respond

And if they don’t there will at minimum be:

1. Robust defense of the abortion pill against the crazies trying to get the FDA to revoke its approval.
2. Support for people who need to travel between states for abortion and no bans on women’s travel.
3. Appointment of justices who believe women’s healthcare should be protected.

Yeah this isn’t enough— but it’s so much better than what we’d get under Trump.

Which of these don’t deserve your support? We can vote from home now— you can’t fill out a paper form to protect access to the abortion pill?

NO!

Ok. Then stay home. But the problem isn’t that you’re being “asked” for anything. The problem is you’re unwilling to participate in the democratic process and I can’t help you with that.

[Anonymous]

I am all in and more excited than ever as a staunch Democrat for Kamala Harris. I just want to mention a VP choice that I think could hurt her chances and that is Josh Shapiro. I am Jewish and I would love nothing better to see him on the ticket. He is a wonderful leader, realistic and kind too. But our country is not ready for two racial “minorities” to run on the same ticket.

I want to defeat Donald Trump. I am a 73 year old Jewish woman (mother and grandmother) and for the first time in my life I am frightened for myself and for my family and every other Jew and every other person who isn’t white in our country. Trump is a prejudiced and malicious person. Don’t doubt what he says….he will deport people. He’s an isolationist and history has shown again and again that isolationism does not work.

I want Kamala to win. I have always wished for a woman President. I hope I get to see this in my lifetime. Donate, volunteer and do whatever you personally can to help elect the first woman President of the United States. We are now considered a weak democratic country when rated internationally. Kamala Harris can bring us together and strengthen our country, our citizens and most of all our democracy.

[Anonymous]

Weighing in on page 55, without having read the thread, to say I am an independent who has voted both red and blue in the past, but I will never vote MAGA, ever.

I have already donated to Harris' campaign, and I'm going to volunteer, too. And wow, does Harris have my Gen Z kids (voting age!) fired up.

As the kids would say: LFG!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s actually better if a Dem wins in 2028 not this year. I don’t foresee any justices retiring or dying in the next 4 years. The next major period will be 2028-2032.

Clarence won’t step down if Kamala is president . He wants to step down if Trump is President.

Thomas is 76 and Alito is 74. That's old. Four years is a long, long time.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/article/markets/us/obama-says-abortion-rights-law-not-a-top-priority-idUSN29466420/

Remember this? Obama didn’t pass an abortion rights law in 2009 . He said it was not a priority.

Dems are poor planners and listeners and were so cocky they never thought the SC would swing right . They should blame themselves for not making Roe v Wade law when they had multiple administrations and chances to do so.

That would’ve gotten rid of the carrot and they’d lose women’s votes.

[Anonymous]

Looks like Kamala got Andrew Yang’s vote, LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s actually better if a Dem wins in 2028 not this year. I don’t foresee any justices retiring or dying in the next 4 years. The next major period will be 2028-2032.

Clarence won’t step down if Kamala is president . He wants to step down if Trump is President.

I have consumed a large amount of biographical material about Clarence Thomas and have determined that he is never stepping down ever, therefore we must elect Democratic presidents until he dies. And his mother is still alive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/article/markets/us/obama-says-abortion-rights-law-not-a-top-priority-idUSN29466420/

Remember this? Obama didn’t pass an abortion rights law in 2009 . He said it was not a priority.

Dems are poor planners and listeners and were so cocky they never thought the SC would swing right . They should blame themselves for not making Roe v Wade law when they had multiple administrations and chances to do so.

That would’ve gotten rid of the carrot and they’d lose women’s votes.

Yes, Obama should've known that a huge red wave would hit in 2010 and had the foresight to see that the GOP would never negotiate in good faith. He should've foreseen the election of Donald Trump over Hilary and made sure that RBG retired and that Merrick Garland would get to the Supreme Court. He should've foreseen the underhanded bare knuckled way the GOP has operated for the last 15 years. Sure bud.

[Anonymous]

Again, for a lot of us, the choice is Democrat vs staying home. It is not Democrat vs MAGA.

Tell me what the Democrat plan is to make sure Project 2025 NEVER happens. I’ll wait.

I don't mean to laugh, but really? My plan is to vote for Harris to make sure Project 2025 never happens and Trump/Vance fade into thin air forever. If you choose not to vote, what impact do you think it will have? Power? Self righteousness? The outcome remains the same— Harris or Trump will be your president. If the latter, then your no-vote is a vote for Project 2025.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s actually better if a Dem wins in 2028 not this year. I don’t foresee any justices retiring or dying in the next 4 years. The next major period will be 2028-2032.

Clarence won’t step down if Kamala is president . He wants to step down if Trump is President.

I have consumed a large amount of biographical material about Clarence Thomas and have determined that he is never stepping down ever, therefore we must elect Democratic presidents until he dies. And his mother is still alive.

Of course. As soon as he steps down, the bribes dry up.

[Anonymous]

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Again, for a lot of us, the choice is Democrat vs staying home. It is not Democrat vs MAGA.

Tell me what the Democrat plan is to make sure Project 2025 NEVER happens. I’ll wait.

I don't mean to laugh, but really? My plan is to vote for Harris to make sure Project 2025 never happens and Trump/Vance fade into thin air forever. If you choose not to vote, what impact do you think it will have? Power? Self righteousness? The outcome remains the same— Harris or Trump will be your president. If the latter, then your no-vote is a vote for Project 2025.

DP, I'm choosing to believe that PP is a paid bot or troll. There are a lot of them out there, saying stuff exactly like this for the purpose of dampening enthusiasm and deflating the vote.

And if they're not a paid bot or a troll? Well, they've managed to make themselves indistinguishable from one, and so probably aren't worth the time it takes to respond. They certainly aren't convincing me of anything!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Kamala got Andrew Yang’s vote, LOL!

I love how they repurposed the "Let's Go!" motto. She should use that.