FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Anyone who is familiar with the area would agree that it is absurd for FCPS to move SPA 3411 from CHS to Westfields.

https://www.chantillykids.com/

Glad to know you are a non-contagious attendance island. Whew!

Its only 15 kids? Why would they even bother with rezoning 15 kids. Thats crazy.

What's the point in that, 15 kids at a 2800 student HS is a rounding error.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

Are there Carson kids that go to Chantilly (that are not AAP)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

Are there Carson kids that go to Chantilly (that are not AAP)?

Not that are zoned there. I guess 5here could be pupil plac3d for other reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Because those kids are all zoned to Franklin for MS. Obviously they were thinking of sending a cohort of Franklin to Westfield. Look at the MS boundaries here and that will give you the biggest clue. They aren't going to touch kids already zoned to Rocky Run.

Rocky Run gets alot of AAP from Stone and Liberty. All of them should be at AAP in the base schools. That opens up seats at Rocky Run for Chantilly HS future students currently assigned to Franklin. Carson is oversized, Herndon MS too small for the HS, so Herndon MS should get AAP [no more Hughes send] with Carson a split feeder to KAA and Herndon. AAP at Carson for it's base school students.

There really is no logical geographic solution for a MS for Oakton. Oakton HS is near Madison. Some Oakton ES/Flint Hill in scenario is by Sunrise Valley. With KAA in the mix maybe they'll do a Stu Gibson and move Thoreau students o Hughes and maybe South Lakes ? IDK?

What do you mean by "AAP at the base schools"? Stone and Liberty do not have AAP programs.

The point is that every middle school should have an AAP program so no kids need to be sent to centers.

It is completely ridiculous that FCPS still allows families of AAP middle schoolers to have choice in the middle school they attend.

[Anonymous]

Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

I don't think that accurate. The student transfer dashboard indicates 86 kids transferred from Stone to Rocky Run last year. It doesn't say how many were for AAP, but probably most.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

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Stone also claims there's another 168 in Level IV AAP last year. It sounds like they have plenty of kids to be a center.

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:241,0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

Not at all. Saying "Every middle school should have an AAP program" is the opposite of suggesting that AAP should be eliminated entirely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

I don't think that accurate. The student transfer dashboard indicates 86 kids transferred from Stone to Rocky Run last year. It doesn't say how many were for AAP, but probably most.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

Yes, those would be kids who qualified for aap but stayed in their base schools for elementary, then transferred into AAP for 7th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

I don't think that accurate. The student transfer dashboard indicates 86 kids transferred from Stone to Rocky Run last year. It doesn't say how many were for AAP, but probably most.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

Yes, those would be kids who qualified for aap but stayed in their base schools for elementary, then transferred into AAP for 7th.

I don't think they necessarily stayed at their base schools in elementary. I think the transfer portal shows kids who are in boundary for one school transferring to another. (Likely for AAP). Even if a child in elementary transfers for AAP, their "base" school is still their in boundary school.

[Anonymous]

All of the MS are so large that I can’t imagine that there wouldn’t be a critical mass of AAP students. Stone Middle’s enrollment is listed as 726 and they have 168 in LIV and an additional 286 in LII/III who could fill out classes if needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

I don't think that accurate. The student transfer dashboard indicates 86 kids transferred from Stone to Rocky Run last year. It doesn't say how many were for AAP, but probably most.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/facilities-and-membership-dashboards

Yes, those would be kids who qualified for aap but stayed in their base schools for elementary, then transferred into AAP for 7th.

No, there's 86 kids in MS who are zoned to Stone and transfer to Rocky Run. Likely most if not all are for AAP. There's another 168 kids who are Level IV eligible but apparently stay at Stone if I understand the other dashboard correctly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Because those kids are all zoned to Franklin for MS. Obviously they were thinking of sending a cohort of Franklin to Westfield. Look at the MS boundaries here and that will give you the biggest clue. They aren't going to touch kids already zoned to Rocky Run.

Rocky Run gets alot of AAP from Stone and Liberty. All of them should be at AAP in the base schools. That opens up seats at Rocky Run for Chantilly HS future students currently assigned to Franklin. Carson is oversized, Herndon MS too small for the HS, so Herndon MS should get AAP [no more Hughes send] with Carson a split feeder to KAA and Herndon. AAP at Carson for it's base school students.

There really is no logical geographic solution for a MS for Oakton. Oakton HS is near Madison. Some Oakton ES/Flint Hill in scenario is by Sunrise Valley. With KAA in the mix maybe they'll do a Stu Gibson and move Thoreau students o Hughes and maybe South Lakes ? IDK?

What do you mean by "AAP at the base schools"? Stone and Liberty do not have AAP programs.

The point is that every middle school should have an AAP program so no kids need to be sent to centers.

It is completely ridiculous that FCPS still allows families of AAP middle schoolers to have choice in the middle school they attend.

And elementary schools. No kids with AAP in their base school already should have the choice to move to a center. Centers should be turned into regular, neighborhood schools.
DP

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it really does seem silly that they don't have AAP classes in all middle schools when there are so many children that qualify.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stone would not have enough kids for an AAP program. The "center" only sends 20-30 kids per grade to Rocky Run. Someone posted about it earlier.

Are you proposing completely doing away with AAP? That's a different suggestion.

Not at all. Saying "Every middle school should have an AAP program" is the opposite of suggesting that AAP should be eliminated entirely.

Rocky Run only has 670 students that would go to Chantilly for HS as per the 2024-25 FCPS dashboards. Franklin is a big feed to Chantilly. The reality is Rocky Run with AAP only for the base school should be a single feed to Chantilly HS. Wherever FCPS can do a concise logical pyramid it should be done.

A rare occasion when MS capacity matches a HS capacity net TJ. That's why I posted that the split feeder for Carson should be Herndon pyramid.