FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it was the builders' political influence that got the crazy boundary?

Of those in Herndon, yes.

Of Great Falls? I think Herndon was crowded and Langley had lots of room. Remember, Langley is bordered by the Potomac, Arlington, and McLean. Great Falls was the only direction to go.

Then, when Langley became so desirable, the newer builders on the other side of 7 added those new developments. There are not that many, but if you look at the map, it really is pretty clear when you see the carve outs. One of the most vocal people is from one of those Herndon neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

I don't really think thats a great argument when Coates, McNair and Floris are way further away and have been attending Westfield for years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

I don't really think thats a great argument when Coates, McNair and Floris are way further away and have been attending Westfield for years.

And, it has always been too far and too divided from the rest of the Westfield school community.

And, now they will, hopefully, not have to go there any longer. And, Westfield can have a united boundary for their community instead of being divided from other students by miles and miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Anyone who is familiar with the area would agree that it is absurd for FCPS to move SPA 3411 from CHS to Westfields.

https://www.chantillykids.com/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

I don't really think thats a great argument when Coates, McNair and Floris are way further away and have been attending Westfield for years.

And, it has always been too far and too divided from the rest of the Westfield school community.

And, now they will, hopefully, not have to go there any longer. And, Westfield can have a united boundary for their community instead of being divided from other students by miles and miles.

+2 Coates, McNair, and Floris belong at KAA. It’s a long way from that area to Westfield HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That Langley Herndon border looks like an encyclopedia article on gerrymandering. No wonder they are so prickly. That's just silly.

Right? Did they literally draw lines around specific houses? Its preposterous.

Until the people over there started demeaning the purchase of KAA, I supported their desire to stay put. I'm a little less sympathetic now that they are screaming about it.

FWIW, those builders on the south side of 7 had approval to zone it to Langley. It added to the cost of the houses.

Screaming about good governance? Yeah, those jerks 🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Anyone who is familiar with the area would agree that it is absurd for FCPS to move SPA 3411 from CHS to Westfields.

https://www.chantillykids.com/

Its Westfield.
I guess you aren't from the area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Anyone who is familiar with the area would agree that it is absurd for FCPS to move SPA 3411 from CHS to Westfields.

https://www.chantillykids.com/

Glad to know you are a non-contagious attendance island. Whew!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

I don't really think thats a great argument when Coates, McNair and Floris are way further away and have been attending Westfield for years.

And, it has always been too far and too divided from the rest of the Westfield school community.

And, now they will, hopefully, not have to go there any longer. And, Westfield can have a united boundary for their community instead of being divided from other students by miles and miles.

+2 Coates, McNair, and Floris belong at KAA. It’s a long way from that area to Westfield HS.

It's a long way from most neighborhoods to Westfield. That's the problem with building on available land and not within a neighborhood/community. The closest schools to there are also close to CHS. Schools in Centreville are much closer to CVHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If they are trying to avoid pissing off people, they will move as few schools as they can. So even though she's obnoxious, CHS mom is probably correct that they won't be moved.

There's more than 1 person trying to tell a bunch of idiots on the other side of the county, who aren't familiar with the area, why their genius suggestion is actually not viable.

I'm not convinced they even need to move anyone else out of Chantilly, but if they do it will be Lees Corner for a multitude of reasons already covered 30 pages ago. It was further telegraphed in one of the THRU scenarios where they put the Cub Run neighborhood near Wegmans to Lees Corner, plus a handful of existing Lees Corner homes near Lowes to Westfield. I realize the THRU scenarios are off the table but these moves best signal their thought process on who, if anybody, is more likely to move to Westfield.

All the Thru scenarios predated the announcement that FCPS planned to buy KAA. People can disagree over who moves to the new school but I wouldn’t be calling others idiots when you can’t even grasp that a game changer is a game changer.

Way to miss the point!

Let me spell it out for you. There's 100 pages debating who is going to move from Chantilly to Westfield. I freaking said the THRU map is not valid, however we're discussing who is going to potentially backfill Westfield. It has a proposal of exactly what is being debated here, something more concrete than anyone else on this forum can come up with. I think at a minimum those kids already proposed will move to Westfield, and maybe even the part of Brookfield that goes to Franklin. You guys need to reframe your thoughts from what ES is going to be rezoned to Westfield to what MS is going to be rezoned to Westfield. It makes things a LOT more clear!

Franklin has students from Navy, Waples Mill, Lees Corner, and Oak Hill. Only a handful south of 50 (except for new area around Wegmanns which could easily be sent to Westfield.) Most of that area south of 50 on the Franklin map is commercial and industrial. No one north of 50 and east of 28 should be sent to Westfield. It is divided by Dulles Airport and commercial and industrial areas.

I don't really think thats a great argument when Coates, McNair and Floris are way further away and have been attending Westfield for years.

And, it has always been too far and too divided from the rest of the Westfield school community.

And, now they will, hopefully, not have to go there any longer. And, Westfield can have a united boundary for their community instead of being divided from other students by miles and miles.

Those feeders are at least a third of the total students, if not more given the size of mcnair and coates. How can they be "too divided" from Westfield when its literally a third or more of the Westfield community?

Its not really a logical argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Anyone who is familiar with the area would agree that it is absurd for FCPS to move SPA 3411 from CHS to Westfields.

https://www.chantillykids.com/

Glad to know you are a non-contagious attendance island. Whew!

Its only 15 kids? Why would they even bother with rezoning 15 kids. Thats crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Because those kids are all zoned to Franklin for MS. Obviously they were thinking of sending a cohort of Franklin to Westfield. Look at the MS boundaries here and that will give you the biggest clue. They aren't going to touch kids already zoned to Rocky Run.

Rocky Run gets alot of AAP from Stone and Liberty. All of them should be at AAP in the base schools. That opens up seats at Rocky Run for Chantilly HS future students currently assigned to Franklin. Carson is oversized, Herndon MS too small for the HS, so Herndon MS should get AAP [no more Hughes send] with Carson a split feeder to KAA and Herndon. AAP at Carson for it's base school students.

There really is no logical geographic solution for a MS for Oakton. Oakton HS is near Madison. Some Oakton ES/Flint Hill in scenario is by Sunrise Valley. With KAA in the mix maybe they'll do a Stu Gibson and move Thoreau students o Hughes and maybe South Lakes ? IDK?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they move Lees Corner kids near Lowe's to Westfield but the Wegman's kids to Lee's Corner? That doesn't make logical sense.

Because those kids are all zoned to Franklin for MS. Obviously they were thinking of sending a cohort of Franklin to Westfield. Look at the MS boundaries here and that will give you the biggest clue. They aren't going to touch kids already zoned to Rocky Run.

Rocky Run gets alot of AAP from Stone and Liberty. All of them should be at AAP in the base schools. That opens up seats at Rocky Run for Chantilly HS future students currently assigned to Franklin. Carson is oversized, Herndon MS too small for the HS, so Herndon MS should get AAP [no more Hughes send] with Carson a split feeder to KAA and Herndon. AAP at Carson for it's base school students.

There really is no logical geographic solution for a MS for Oakton. Oakton HS is near Madison. Some Oakton ES/Flint Hill in scenario is by Sunrise Valley. With KAA in the mix maybe they'll do a Stu Gibson and move Thoreau students o Hughes and maybe South Lakes ? IDK?

What do you mean by "AAP at the base schools"? Stone and Liberty do not have AAP programs.