Historically grades 2-5/6 have been grandfathered. Rarely has FCPS grandfathered all elementary students. I think rising 4-5/6 would be more appropriate since 3rd grade is a big transition year, regardless, with AAP kids moving around. |
I disagree. They should only move out the minimum neighborhoods needed to relieve severe overcrowding, and should not be allowed to move any new students into a school that is rezoned due to "overcrowding." |
It specifically applies to WSHS because the Springfield rep Anderson has explicitly and publicly stated she does not support grandfathering because she intends to replace Hunt Valley/WSHS students with Lewis/Rolling Valley students. She has been telling constituents this since last fall. |
It is not selfishness speaking. It is experience speaking. I have moved my elementary kids multiple times. One of mine went to 4 schools in 3 states by 5th grade. It is very easy to move elementary kids. It is very difficult and destructive to move teenagers, particularly high school students, where high school has real life implications for their future adult success and moving high school kids can have negative implications to their college application process. One could even argue that trying to burn it all down over elementary kids not being grandfathered is being "selfish" Fcps is rezoning come hell or high water. We need to fight for victories against rezoning one step at a time. This grandfathering change is a good first step. The real maps being released soon are going to be the real fight. Buckle up. |
AAP. I think a friend whose kid was in Honors read it as well. His class read The Outsiders earlier in the year as well. |
Well, in that case, they need to come up with new, smaller SPAs to relocate. Otherwise they are going to overcorrect in some cases when they purport to address overcrowding. It’s bad enough that they don’t invest where the capacity is actually needed and then point to overcrowding as their excuse to backfill empty seats at schools that didn’t need to be expanded. They shouldn’t make it worse by gutting school enrollments in the process. |
I’m for grandfathering of high schoolers. The lack of elementary school grandfathering won’t impact my kid. But I am against unnecessary changes even when my kid is not impacted, because I’m not selfish. |
One issue that our neighbors bring up regarding eliminating grandfather in elementary school isn’t just for the middle school transition. But rather military families who are only here for 3 years. Having to switch schools their 3rd year before being relocated - an unnecessary disruption in their students learning that is already disrupted regularly.
In addition, Some of the proposed changes eliminating attendance islands for certain schools but then creating new attendance islands for the same schools won’t change the numbers at all (ie - the barrington neighborhood) I’d love to hear more about that reasoning. |
Where is the Barrington Neighborhood? The consultants aren’t familiar with this area so a lot of their recommendations are purely about continuity of boundaries without paying attention to outlets to the rest of the community. The community outreach for identifying these discrepancies has been poor, though. The best path for addressing them has been submitting feedback in the interactive map. |
You won't get very far with your advocacy if your first response is to label everyone who agrees with you on 95% of your cause and disagrees with 5%, or someone who agrees with you on 100% of your cause but is willing to discuss merits of other arguments as "selfish" |
I think the military families are protected by federal law on this issue. |
The School Board consists entirely of members from a single political party. They don’t always agree with each other but they don’t air their grievances in public. That’s why members quietly abstain on certain votes, whereas if they were from a different party they’d vocally challenge other members and then vote no. That carries over to a discussion on boundaries. They are so used to operating in an echo chamber than when a member of the public criticizes the positions of someone like Sandy Anderson the response of Anderson or one of her political allies is to try and get the discussion shut down or deleted. Shameful, really. |
Check your history book. Grade 3 is a transition year but that AAP junk [I had kids in it] should not drive the boundary review. And at ES and MS level AAP should not be used as mobile fillers because FCPS doesn't change base school boundaries. Colvin Run opened 2003-04. 6th grade only had the grandfathering option and 31 6th graders hopped on the CRES bus. Note might have been the AAP ers previously at Forest Edge. You can see per grade counts on the VDOE website so check out the grades for each new school that has opened since 2003. Spring Hill Mclean HS Tysons island has not been reviewed in 25 years. And the Churchill Rd modular might be reaching or near the endpoint of it's useful life. |
<<<The consultants aren’t familiar with this area so a lot of their recommendations are purely about continuity of boundaries without paying attention to outlets to the rest of the community. The community outreach for identifying these discrepancies has been poor, though. The best path for addressing them has been submitting feedback in the interactive map.>>>
I’m concerned that feedback on the interactive map aren’t actually being seen or addressed, even behind closed doors. When the recap email and slides came out with the more commented areas in red and examples of comments our entire neighborhood and our concerns were nowhere to be found and at least 100 comments had been submitted. It is another reason we don’t have confidence in the transparency of the entire process. Barrington is currently zoned for south county and the map has it being moved to LBSS. Whereas the attendance islands are being moved from LBSS to south county even though they are closer to LB 🙈🤯 |
Fine, replace “historically” with “recently.” The Justice elementary adjustments and Kent Garden adjustments grandfathered rising grades 2-5/6. Rising kindergartners and 1st graders went to their newly assigned schools. The transition for rising 4-5/6 is simply my preference that anyone can disagree with. In fact, recently rising 2nd graders were grandfathered, so it hasn’t been based on a 3rd grade transition year. |